Just wanted take this moment to thank SEFollow

Thank You SE.

Thank you for making yet another God damn mission fight that only specific jobs get invited to.

It's bad enough I haven't had a regular party on my Black Mage in almost 2 years and you do nothing to fix the situation, but now thanks to SE's brilliant minds they decided to make the last ACP fight so damn job specific that unless you get incredibly lucky you might as well save the $10 dollars they charged for it.

Ive spent the last 4 days in Whitegate hoping, praying that I could a least give the last mission a try but All ive heard is the same @#%^ing thing over and over again.

"ACP Final fight do you need it? Ranger Summoner Paladin only"

and thanks to to the incredibly annoying climb up if you fail nobody is willing to take a chance on any other set-up.

So thank you SE, thank you for all of your brilliant planning.





Edited, Apr 18th 2009 12:41am by runway

Make your own party for ACP. You're a black mage. You can easily be on Stun duty / nuke clone duty.

You can Zerg it, so pretty much any job can actually do it.

Yep.. exactly like the proms.

You shouldn't be so upset, at least you aren't a BST. Amazing how we contribute with nothing in that fight. At least WAR, THF, SAM, COR, PUP, NIN, DRK, RDM and DRG (Angon) can do some ranged attacking. The mages are always useful, including BRD. And Paladin, well, you can't beat those at tanking that fight. But what does BST have? A pet that dies in under 5 seconds? Maybe if they go /WHM... but, who am I lying to? Thanks SE for taking so long to define a job's role in a party, and particularly in endgame or this kind of Missions.

Um, what are crying about now? A BLM is very useful in this fight. You can Stun the -ga III's, you can blow up the clones, you can backup heal, and you can sleep anyone that's dumb enough/unlucky enough to get charmed. That's a lot more to offer than most melee DD for this fight.

Edited, Apr 18th 2009 6:32am by Turin

Divine Might has been with regular alliance setups, my own included.

EDIT: As a regular standard I mean.

Edited, Apr 18th 2009 8:34am by CarthRDM

This is not a SE problem it's a player base problem. I have never done a promy with the "optimal setup" and I have never wiped on a promy. Plenty of people have done the add on missions without the "optimal setup"...

People need to quit blaming SE for what the player base is doing. These unwritten rules mad by the players are ridiculous the majority of the time.

As a BST, in all my years I have only been able to talk my way into a zerg fight ONE time! Despite my willingness to come whit millions in gear, sleep pots, opoo necklace, icharis wing, the whole nine... BST still sucked nutz on that fight. My output was pathetically pathetic - and there was absolutely nothing more I could have done.

It was the Snoll fight, and granted, we won. But we won in spite of me, to be sure.

So yea, "any job" can do it. But BST will put out 1/10 of the damage that SAM will.


This fight sounds like when Diabolos was added. I died like 15 times trying it on BST. I feel really bad for subjecting the other 5 people to this, knowing damn well a BST was keeping the party from winning. I finally beat it when I leveled my BLM to 75. Remember, that fight turned out to be rdm/drk + blm + blm + blm + blm + leech. As always, other groups "can" win - but you will go through endless pain and suffering until that glorious day comes when you finally beat it with an "atypical" setup.

Maybe its just you, but every time Ive won, 3 times now, we had a blm on stun duty or Thrall duty.

Edited, Apr 18th 2009 12:58pm by Durifto

It's only the 2 BCNMs that you need a group on, and you can solo to get requirements for both BCs.

I'm 0/6 on the fight so far, and one of the big problems I keep consistently seeing is that the BLMs are horridly slow at killing seed thralls. Couple that with PLDs that like to run to the far corners, dragging clones along with him and ensuring that I (as healer) would need to pretty much stand next to the crystal to be able to cure him and pull hate on the clone to get it back to the BLM.

I would far prefer to have... pretty much any melee with utsu or seigan up to pull clones immediately and melee them down.

BTW: Unless you're zerging, you need two dedicated healers in a pickup group or you'll get overwhelmed by amateurism in a drawn out BC like that. WHM + WHM, WHM + RDM, RDM + RDM, RDM + SCH, WHM + SCH, etc. etc.

Edited, Apr 18th 2009 12:35pm by bsphil

They really do need to stop making fights so blatantly based around a certain tactic.

We got Meriting which features a lot of Low Phys Defense mobs, which means a lot of people are going to zerg it with melee attacks.

We got lots of missions and endgame where Ranged Attacks and Magic are way better.

We got ACP, which heavily favors Ranged Attacks and Stuns, etc etc etc.

Why can't SE give us a BALANCED fight for once?

Where ANYONE could come and be useful without having to resort to doing something stupid like going as a Warrior and shooting arrows? *rolls eyes*

They must love Job Discrimination; they seem to encourage it as much as they possibly can.