Community has ruined this game beyond repair.Follow

I get what it means to have a mage not curing properly. I've seen some mages who just toss their highest cures regardless of situation and wind up having to take a knee right away. I've also see some that don't prioritize well, leaving a tank near death but bombing a melee that's not holding hate. People will die if they play stupid. If a DRK pops all his damage buffs and just rides them out even if he sees he's dying, expecting the WHM to save his ***, and does it repeatedly to the detriment of the party, they deserve to eat some turf to teach them a lesson.

Both sides of the equation have to play smart.

Oh, I see. You just fail to comprehend the concept of balance. It's actually a pretty simple concept. Once you understand it, you'll realize how counterproductive and asinine your suggestion is. I'll be here to assist if you so desire.

As I said, if that's the case, then it's the game mechanics that need to be changed, not the players.

It's all those elitists' fault.

You can't say "game mechanics, not people", when your change in game mechanics consists of changing people.



Read above. When the "acceptable standard" is the "best possible solution", then the problem is with the game mechanics, not the players. Your usage of "obtainable" is misleading. This isn't real life where being selected as the Super Bowl MVP is not obtainable by the "average" person. This is a game where EVERYTHING is obtainable. The difference is where the "average" person just obtains it much later.



This further proves your lack of understanding on how balance works. The content isn't intended for "them", it is intended for players. Players with the best gear simplify the content. If players want the best possible outcome, then you need the best possible players. Thinking that you need the best possible outcome is the source of the problem.


When you define anything less than the best as poor, sub average, etc., then you clearly don't understand the concept of balance.

But that has nothing to do with the mechanics of the game. To the best of my knowledge most of the content can be run with average gear, picking up upgrades as you go. The notion that optimal is the only way is a community driven position that doesn't actually represent the game at all. The reason for optimal is because people want to A.) Minimize possible failure, and B)Complete the content quickly so they can move on to something else.

Neither of these scenarios are a result of imbalanced mechanics. If you have to grind lower tiers and work your way up the gear progression ladder that way, then that is what you have to do, if it takes you an hour to do something instead of 30 minutes than that is how long it takes. An imbalance in mechanics would result in people not being able to complete the task at all, which has never been the case really, except in one off timed events, where you might not complete the event, but in most cases you have the opportunity to progress in gear (through some variable) so the next time you might have an extra 5 minutes to win comparatively.

The biggest problem is the community. The hardcore players set the bar (because they are the best yo!), the higher average players maintain the bar(because they want to be the best too!), and the rest of the crowd just follows in suit because hey if the guys who play everyday need all the best gear obviously us folks who only get together on Saturday do to. Sadly the monkey see monkey do mentality spreads what is an optimal farming group, as the required standard, when it is most often not the case. Such has been the case for most every exclusionary period in FFXI's long history.

There is no reason a group of people with higher tier Abyssea/Voidwatch stuff can not make progress in Delve stuff. Even if that means grinding low tiers until you have them on farm. Its progressive for a reason, and not everyone has the same amount of time to climb the hill.

Blu can useful on some NMs for Absolute Terror at the start of the fight and whenever UBL is up. You do need a good M.acc set to land it with out ES. Now farming it suffers like any other dual wield job compared to 2handers since you would be really just another dd, the whm . only has to watch over 3 dds and one puller with a high chance that either the brd or cor would be /mage.

Let me reiterate: Pickup runs. Where any schmuck can go "hurka hurka I'm a MNK with Delve knuckles" without capped H2H skill and +1 Empyrean and get accepted, at least the first time. (Remember when we talked about not re-inviting the wastes of space? Yeah. There's 4-5 folks on my linkshell's blacklist.)

It's double marches all the way when I'm with folks from any of my linkshells.

I haven't done a pickup plasm run in the last week or so. Maybe next time I'll be pleasantly surprised. I'm definitely putting sushi in my bazaar, though.

I did tons of pickup plasm groups until I fell into my current crowd. Each DD party would have three DD's, maybe one out of those three was under 50% and then it was very rare. The other two DD's are usually 2H's with decent voidwatch era gear who would typically hit 70~80% acc, If your in a group with three DD's all under 50% acc then your group is getting absolutely **** for plasm, we're talking sub 3K here. In order to be that low you need to be naked or have underleveled skill. Or are we talking about the THF's and BLU's in the third party, cause those guys got it rough no matter what.

Edited, Jun 5th 2013 10:49pm by saevellakshmi

Yep, 3-4K was about what I've been getting in some runs. Finally hit 6K in Ceizek - with the linkshell.

I've been on some really ****** pickup runs.

No, you could do skirmish, get a better weapon and do Delve or use a support and just do delve, I guess. But NNI has never been a requirement. There is some nice gear but it's not make or break for the most part. For DD a better weapon will make more difference than any gear and for a support job, generally just being good at support jobs is most of what matters.

and everyone can do delves. Not sure why they would at this point though. Although a couple of the bayld gear are nice.

Edited, Jun 5th 2013 11:34pm by Olorinus