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SE better not let Rune Fencer use any of the good gear in the game already then.
I'm the one causing the 'RNK' infection, because 'Fencer' makes it sound like a pansy-assed RDM.
Edited, Aug 2nd 2012 8:40pm by Raelix
Edited, Aug 2nd 2012 8:40pm by Raelix
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Nilatai wrote:
Vlorsutes wrote:
There's always...not trolling him?
You're new here, aren't you?
Aliekber wrote:
Curious if my post was nuked because someone thought it was spam?
If it was just deemed inappropriate for =10, then ok, but it was a joke based on this song, if you didn't get it. I thought it would be fine due to the "Jizzed in my pants" parody thread a few years back not getting locked (and participated in by Pikko, iirc).
Back to your regularly-scheduled loltanks.
If it was just deemed inappropriate for =10, then ok, but it was a joke based on this song, if you didn't get it. I thought it would be fine due to the "Jizzed in my pants" parody thread a few years back not getting locked (and participated in by Pikko, iirc).
Back to your regularly-scheduled loltanks.
I know what it's from, but I nuked the two of them cause they were off-topic, and Kao and I have warned about quote pyramids in the past, especially ones that end up being spam or off-topic.
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Sure beats 1-2 years of them sucking horribly and becoming unpopular because they don't have vital equipment to play on the level that the other 20 can.
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Zelduh wrote:
You think having a brand new job fully-geared to the max and ready to go on day 1 makes sense?
Why not?
Erecia wrote:
Sure beats 1-2 years of them sucking horribly and becoming unpopular because they don't have vital equipment to play on the level that the other 20 can.
Well unless SE changes their mind about RUN and access to trial 216, then yes it's gonna suck hard. People will be all happy at first, once the new job smell wears off and the comparisons are run to figure out "where" to place it in events, that's when things will turn ugly. We don't "tank" anymore due to the horribly broken enmity system, thus any "tanking" abilities RUN gets are pretty much wasted. Leaves them with their offensive capabilities, which it appears SE is trying to severely limit prior to release. No OaT Fulgurante means swinging something like a Jingang Sword and permanently being relegated to 2nd or 3rd tier offensive capabilities. At that point it becomes a question of "Bring another SAM/DRK/WAR/MNK/DRG/THF/BLU or bring a RUN". It doesn't have Aegis / OChain so it won't be holding the six adds the NM spawns, nor will it be holding the super mega NM of death while your group fights the other super mega NM of death. Kinda leaves the job concept in a limbo, similar to other "good idea on paper, bad idea in practice" from SE.
Zelduh wrote:
You can't tell what greatswords they'll introduce in the future, not to mention job-specific ones, and they'll likely add a new "type" of greatsword (some kind of spellblade-related greatsword) to go along with RUN, like they added hexaguns for COR and kilijes for BLU and so on.
Could you have picked worse examples?
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Airships on fire off the shoulder of Bahamut. I watched Scapula Beams glitter in the dark near the Three Mage Gate...
You're new here, aren't you?
Nilatai wrote:
Vlorsutes wrote:
There's always...not trolling him?
You're new here, aren't you?
Zelduh wrote:
...Because it defeats the purpose of job progression?
A job leveling into a Relic weapon doesn't sully job progression, lack of job progression sullies job progression.
Unless you think people who obtain relic weapons should just never be allowed to level new jobs that can use the same weapons.
Sharing relics would be like having a fully leveled Ragnorak for DRK, then I decided to unlock PLD and level it... as soon as I get leveled up, I already had the Relic weapon done!!
ITs NOT like being Fully geared in 1 day. and it wasn't automatic. It was from the effort already completed being completely compatible with a new job.
heaven forbid a pup get vere and then doesn't need to make a new one when leveling mnk...
Edited, Aug 3rd 2012 10:04am by Xilk
ITs NOT like being Fully geared in 1 day. and it wasn't automatic. It was from the effort already completed being completely compatible with a new job.
heaven forbid a pup get vere and then doesn't need to make a new one when leveling mnk...
Edited, Aug 3rd 2012 10:04am by Xilk
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Zelduh wrote:
...Because it defeats the purpose of job progression?
If multiple jobs on the same Relic weapon completely and utterly destroys every aspect of job progression, then every Relic and Empyrean needs to become job specific. Otherwise, this game already has this issue.
Zelduh wrote:
Honestly it makes sense that they can't use relics. I mean, if a DRK with 99 Ragnarok gets Rune Fencer to 99 on day 1, he automatically has the best weapon for it (minus the mythic, but that's still to be seen), and that kinda ruins the fun of it.
Wouldn't it be the same thing if I were to get an Excalibur on my RDM then the next day decide to unlock PLD and level it to 99 and be able to use it right away?
ScaryTrees wrote:
Zelduh wrote:
Honestly it makes sense that they can't use relics. I mean, if a DRK with 99 Ragnarok gets Rune Fencer to 99 on day 1, he automatically has the best weapon for it (minus the mythic, but that's still to be seen), and that kinda ruins the fun of it.
Wouldn't it be the same thing if I were to get an Excalibur on my RDM then the next day decide to unlock PLD and level it to 99 and be able to use it right away?
Do you even need to have a job leveled to obtain a Relic weapon? I didn't see anything on wiki that indicated that you need to have, say, DRK at 75 to be able to upgrade to an Apoc.
svlyons wrote:
ScaryTrees wrote:
Zelduh wrote:
Honestly it makes sense that they can't use relics. I mean, if a DRK with 99 Ragnarok gets Rune Fencer to 99 on day 1, he automatically has the best weapon for it (minus the mythic, but that's still to be seen), and that kinda ruins the fun of it.
Wouldn't it be the same thing if I were to get an Excalibur on my RDM then the next day decide to unlock PLD and level it to 99 and be able to use it right away?
Do you even need to have a job leveled to obtain a Relic weapon? I didn't see anything on wiki that indicated that you need to have, say, DRK at 75 to be able to upgrade to an Apoc.
New goal: make Spharai for my level 8 MNK--never level into it.
@Vlor: K, I'll try to rein that in in the future (I still thought it was funny, though)
Edited, Aug 3rd 2012 12:10pm by Aliekber
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Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:
Human (?) females look ugly.
So what do you call all the BLM, WHM, and RDMs that were level 75 when WotG came along with SCH?
Zelduh wrote:
It's different because it's a new job. This isn't like leveling PLD after having Excalibur on RDM. It's a NEW job. It's like having all blue magic before Blue Mage was released.
Yea, not gonna lie, having all the awesome gear for a new job doesn't mean ****. Especially given SE's propensity to leave new jobs off of most of the game's good gear, and what they can use, is obnoxious to get. Have you forgotten how ******* long it took them to put pup on some actual melee gear?
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Reiterpallasch wrote:
Glitterhands wrote:
Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O
Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
Zelduh wrote:
I'm not talking about gear. I'm talking about weapons. Most people don't spend 200 million gil on a single piece of armor to make their _____ job really good. Why should all the bandwagon DRKs get a freeride on RUN?
Bandwagon DRKs who have Ragnaroks? The weapon that was not even that good less than a year ago?
If they're that dedicated to being on the bandwagon, then let them. Who cares?Aliekber
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Human (?) females look ugly.
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