Who rather stick with this than bother with FFXIV 2.0? Follow

If I could afford it, I'd be playing both, but I'm too cheap to actually buy XIV, and I was to late to realize that I had qualified as a beta tester to actually beta test it (I got the confirmation email like, a month late, because of stupid computer antics, at which point I was on a different computer which could not handle XIV in the slightest). Maybe after I get my long-planned new gaming rig I'll look into it, it does look pretty entertaining, in the "back up MMO" sense. That said, I'm so ******* firmly rooted into FFXI that I've found it impossible to quit. The longest I've lasted is 6 months.

Honestly, given how abysmally SE has handled FFXI's pet jobs, I don't really want to think about what a pet job in XIV would be like.

Well, that 'game' is being played at 2 levels, FFXIV 2.0 itself and SE's handling of FFXIV as a whole (plus in the context of their whole amnesia with making great games they're afflicted with). FFXIV itself could be fine, perhaps even great, but it has so many stigmas, marks of cain, scarlet letters on it, it has other issues to deal with.
1.) There's the lack of trust with SE. They botched 1.0 so bad, it had as much or perhaps more of an effect on how FF fans view SE as FFXIII. Add into that how they neglected FFXI to put everyone onto FFXIV (and how FFXIV turned out despite all that staff & experience). There's a huge breach of trust there. What if they get some of it right, then phone it in from then on?
2.) The issue of support. People might be hesitate to get attached to a game that will sell badly or not get subs at the high level it needs to to pay off FFXIV 1.0, the year of f2p, FFXIV 2.0. This is where reviews and the MMO player perception of FFXIV comes in. How many will treat FFXIV 2.0 like an entirely new game and how many will still see the FFXIV part of its name and be reluctant to play it? (Like how many people would see The Adventures of Pluto Nash 2.0? Ishtar 2.0? Mars Needs Moms 2.0?) SE has invested so much into FFXIV, beyond where many felt they should have just accepted the losses, the big question is how much more losses are they willing to accept?

FFXI, based on its track record, would seem to be the stable, reliable one. It may be old, but it has a proven track record, and at best, gets back to a string of expansions from the Far West to other far corners of Vana'diel, and at worst, ends up with Abysseaesque add-ons with Voidwatchian filler inbetween.



So bad it induced people to tears? Wow. I knew it was so bad to generate anger, disgust, revulsion, disillusionment, demoralization, et al, but I didn't know it could make people cry. I thought the only FF to make people cry was FFIII with people cosplaying as Onion Knights.


But FFXIV 1.0 had great graphics. That was the only great thing it had. All the issues were with gameplay, interface, and some with style of those visuals (e.g. copypasted landscapes or "Haven't I just been here?"). That's SE's big issue nowadays- they are so obsessed with great graphics, they have neglected the gameplay and the quality of experience (e.g. the world, towns, etc).

I haven't seen that but there is a taru laugh in FFXI that I think is the cutest. Most people think the /panic emote for tarus is the cutest but I like this laugh emote.

It's not the normal laugh emote.

First you /sit THEN you /laugh.

I like that one.

I strongly disapprove of SE's general attitude in creating MMOs, but I realized it slightly too late to quit FFXI before it had a grip on me. I'll never touch FFXIV or any other multiplayer game they make. Whoever they're trying to appeal to, it ain't me.

Honestly, I think the fact that they're so goddamn stubborn about refusing to change their methods with how they think an MMO should be handled, and given how very different those views and methods are from the rest of the MMOs available, is one of the few truly redeeming things about FFXI. I absolutely hate the way they handle ****, but that SE has become fairly predictable, and that despite hating their design style, the game itself is so ******* addicting, is probably why FFXI has been so strong. It's a nice little oasis in the sea of WoW clones that are all about instant gratification and are only fun for a few days at max, that's for damn sure.


Go ahead and name&shame, it's not disrespecting the forums at all, given that this is a FFXI-based section of a MASSIVE multi-game forum system.

quit last month but not planning to return for a long time (maybe) , didnt like the new pics of 2.0...looks like korean mmo #2983842 .

Edited, Jul 24th 2012 7:46pm by Saher

The emotes in FFXIV are taken to a whole new level. The laugh emote isn't just visual, its audible as well so you get to hear a cute little high pitch giggle along with it. Laughing while sitting causes them to kick their little legs up too. It just takes cute to a whole new level. Dozing off while sitting causes lalafell characters to topple over comically, waking themselves up in the process.

Yeah, I confess a lot of my favourite aspects of old FFXIV were the visuals, but little touches like the emotes are wonderful. It's fun just seeing how each race and gender reacts differently in each emote.

Apparently FFXIV has up-skirt shots and ***** innuendo...



RATING INFORMATION

FINAL FANTASY XIV

Platform: Windows PC, PlayStation 3

Rating: Teen Rating Symbol

Content descriptors: Alcohol Reference, Animated Blood, Language, Suggestive Themes, Violence

Other: Includes online features that may expose players to unrated user-generated content (Windows PC, PlayStation 3)

Rating summary:

This is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) in which players navigate a large cast of characters that engage in missions and fight the forces of evil. Players explore environments (e.g., cities, plains, caves) and battle human and fantasy creatures. Players use swords, spears, axes, firearms, and magic spells (e.g., fire balls, energy beams) to defeat enemies in real-time combat. Cutscenes depict a man being stabbed from behind, and creatures emitting splashes of purple or yellow blood when struck. Some female characters are depicted from low camera angles, with lingering camera views of their buttocks (i.e., up-skirt shots). Dialogue contains suggestive references; for example, 'The netmaster's probably up in his office polishing the mast just thinking about her,' 'stick yer manhood in the forge,' and 'You cheating little *****!' Several characters are referred to as drunk or drunken, while others sometimes talk about wine, rum, and grog. The word 'sh*t' can be heard in the dialogue.

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=29479

I'm going to get blasted for this, but i actually liked XIV when it first came out. Sure, i absolutely dreaded the race names and undefined job names/abilities because depite looking exactly the same, they just couldnt give them the same names. Diffirent for the sake of being diffirent, not better, but still. The game was good. Fatigue was a good option to deal with a battle in either 3 seconds and tire yourself out or pace things out a little.

I liked original FFXIV, then all these ******** changes came. Simply so they could say they were working on things and were thinking ahead. Auto-attack was rubbish, so what if you had to press a couple of buttons to attack? You could have paced your own combat and even paused if you wanted to. At the very least they should have made it a toggle, but no, they simply had to wreck the entire combat system to please a small group. MP cost SHOT up. You went from "ok, i can solo this EP" to "Oh crap, i casted one cure and my MP pool is drained". You couldnt ever solo a NM anymore. Solo play became non-existant.

Came back to see what had become of the game a month or two-ish before it went P2P, and all my gear that cost me several miliions in the past was completely ruined, Weapon damage ratings were cut in half. My armor was replaced with an exact identical piece, that looked the same but had lesser stats than mine had before. And the armor that i had had it's stats almost floored and got some bs antique logo on it or something. You cant just do such a thing and expect people to praise you.

Unless 2.0 starts from scratch, has everything done right, and SE wouldnt ***** us over again mid-game, i'll look into it. But i'm not going to quit XI for it.

I don't plan to touch 14 until I've finished all the storyline content in 11. I don't care if I don't get all the best gear, or beat all the bosses, I just want to experience the story. If and only if I can manage that, I'll look into 14.