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#1 Jul 22 2012 at 9:33 AM Rating: Decent
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How many of you like me cried when FFXIV came out and it was crap? I don't know what it is about XI, but I can never get enough, and no matter how many times I quit, I ALWAYS find myself coming back.

How many of you like me are planning to turn a blind eye to FFXIV when it goes to 2.0 and continue playing FFXI?
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#2 Jul 22 2012 at 9:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm playing both right now.

XIV is not the same game it was when it first came out. It's actually rather fun now. And when V2 comes out and it finally has a decent graphics engine, it's going to be even better.

I don't think I can quit FFXI, but for now, I'm happy giving SE my cash for both games.
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#3 Jul 22 2012 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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Don't get me wrong, I played last about... a month and a half ago. I don't get the same draw in.... I guess my mind is permanently stuck on. "It's not FFXI"
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#4 Jul 22 2012 at 9:56 AM Rating: Good
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Ive actually been hearing pretty positive things about 14 lately. But I won't be buying it/playing it anytime soon. I am still sour about SE blackballing us Beta testers opinions, then releasing a steaming pile of dung and calling it a game. Blizzard is doing the same to D3 right now.

Frankly I don't want to play a game where I am told how to have fun. Hopefully the new FFXI direction puts some player made fun in the game again, and not scripted fun like it has been for some time now.
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#5 Jul 22 2012 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
I'd play 14 if they have/get (if not already, I don't follow it) a DRG or BST type class (Or any pet type, I find I like the pet type classes in most games).
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#6 Jul 22 2012 at 10:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm waiting at least until FFXIV not only looks pretty but MOVES pretty. I don't care about the neat designs and smooth textures if the spell animations are crap except for the ancient magics which are just okay.
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#7 Jul 22 2012 at 2:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd play 14 if they have/get (if not already, I don't follow it) a DRG or BST type class (Or any pet type, I find I like the pet type classes in most games).


Well, Dragoon is in the game, but it doesn't have a wyvern pet like the job does in XI.
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#8 Jul 22 2012 at 2:52 PM Rating: Default
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I would like to have it on PS3 when it comes out but i can't think about it now since i just got back into 11 after 4 years and frankly i was only lvl 30 SUM as my highest job when i quit. I too have heard they fixed it and made the HUD more like WoW so people can recognize it more. Not sure how i feel about that because i cherish the hardcore games of yesterday! I just hope they don't totally sell out and make everything easy.
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#9 Jul 22 2012 at 3:16 PM Rating: Good
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Worth playing if only for the cute lalafell laugh emote. It's so adorable!

I'll definitely be looking to get back to FFXIV once 2.0 is released. I never really despised the game, though there were more than a few things I disliked about the system. Many of those things have since been remedied, or are still being tweaked, though I was greatly upset at them more than tripling the cost of healing spells without doing anything for the spells potency making Conjurer one of the weakest classes in the game, while at the same time giving away half their attack spells to Thaumaturge.

Now though, Conjurer is more white magey while Thaum is closer to black mage, and it seems to be working out a lot better. Though how the MP management thing is working now is a mystery to me, as all of the websites I've visited, including ZAM, are outdated and only display the OLD spell lists and MP costs (Conjurer still has all its nuke spells for one!). I can only hope its been made more manageable, since at the time of leaving the game I could only cast a cure spell 4 times before running out of MP entirely.
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#10 Jul 22 2012 at 4:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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The graphics and gameplay are going to mean little if there's no one to play with, so that's what's going to matter most to me. I'll have to see how many friends move to it and how easy it'll be to get into a good, friendly LS.
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#11 Jul 22 2012 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
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Worth playing if only for the cute lalafell laugh emote. It's so adorable!

I'll definitely be looking to get back to FFXIV once 2.0 is released. I never really despised the game, though there were more than a few things I disliked about the system. Many of those things have since been remedied, or are still being tweaked, though I was greatly upset at them more than tripling the cost of healing spells without doing anything for the spells potency making Conjurer one of the weakest classes in the game, while at the same time giving away half their attack spells to Thaumaturge.

Now though, Conjurer is more white magey while Thaum is closer to black mage, and it seems to be working out a lot better. Though how the MP management thing is working now is a mystery to me, as all of the websites I've visited, including ZAM, are outdated and only display the OLD spell lists and MP costs (Conjurer still has all its nuke spells for one!). I can only hope its been made more manageable, since at the time of leaving the game I could only cast a cure spell 4 times before running out of MP entirely.


MP really only becomes a major issue if you're moving around a lot with no downtime. (Not having played at release, I'm not sure if the current massive "no action regen/refresh" was in place. But standing in place for about 30-45 seconds refills a thousand mp pool from empty.) The new WHM does better than CNJ at healing, hands down, but a CNJ can still be a good secondary healer, and two CNJ can main heal together without too much trouble.

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#12 Jul 22 2012 at 9:03 PM Rating: Good
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Unless they completely rebuild FFXI, I'd rather play a good FFXIV.

I love the feel of FFXI, the races, the world, and so on... but it's old. It's stale. It's been ten years now, the adventure is all but dead. Most of us are coasting on nostalgia, in-game friends, and the dopamine rush we get from a new item rather than any sense of wonder, immersion, or adventure.

I miss being new. I miss not being able to alt-tab and read while running from point A to B without missing a turn. I miss being lost, I miss not knowing whether or not I'd win, I miss having to bug my linkshell to find out where to get a spell and I miss leveling somewhere and wondering whether or not an NM popped there or not.

I have high hopes but low expectations for Adoulin. It'll be an expansion designed for level 99s; I can't see there being 'level' oriented content, since it'd be very difficult to overthrow Abyssea as the exp destination of choice. This means the content will have to be very quest oriented.

The areas will be new, we won't know everything, maybe there's an adventure to be had? SE seems to be on the right track... but while I hope it will rekindle the old spirit of FFXI, the realistic part of me expects a bunch of abyssea styled content: Kill the trash mobs, get the pop item, pop the NM, ad nauseum. That said, I'm optimistic enough to cross my fingers and wait giddily for an expansion that sends us all on an adventure again, rather than more content where you simply go to a location and kill the same boss over and over.

tl;dr: I want something new. As much as I love FFXI, it'd old hat to me and I can play it with my eyes closed. Unless they do a reboot or make Adoulin an amazing expansion, I will jump ship for XIV the moment XIV is good.



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#13 Jul 22 2012 at 11:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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MP really only becomes a major issue if you're moving around a lot with no downtime. (Not having played at release, I'm not sure if the current massive "no action regen/refresh" was in place. But standing in place for about 30-45 seconds refills a thousand mp pool from empty.) The new WHM does better than CNJ at healing, hands down, but a CNJ can still be a good secondary healer, and two CNJ can main heal together without too much trouble.

At the time I left, you could only cast in an active stance, which meant no MP regen. You had a few abilities to recover MP, but they were on long timers and the recovery process was very slow, even in passive. I think what annoyed me more is that there's no rest animation like there is in FFXI, which means 'recovering MP' just looked like you were being lazy to the rest of the group, so there was more of an obligation to be seen to be doing something.
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#14 Jul 23 2012 at 12:23 AM Rating: Good
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Since I found out they're going to be charging some customers less than others for the monthly fees (based on how many months before the relaunch you've been playing), I decided not to re-register for 14. If the guy next to me is paying less for the same content, SE can kindly **** off.
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#15 Jul 23 2012 at 3:22 AM Rating: Good
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Ive actually been hearing pretty positive things about 14 lately. But I won't be buying it/playing it anytime soon. I am still sour about SE blackballing us Beta testers opinions, then releasing a steaming pile of dung and calling it a game. Blizzard is doing the same to D3 right now.

Frankly I don't want to play a game where I am told how to have fun. Hopefully the new FFXI direction puts some player made fun in the game again, and not scripted fun like it has been for some time now.


I like scripted fun. It's the hallmark of Final Fantasy games. Smiley: lol

I'd just wish they'd do something to rid the game of "AFK leveling".

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#16 Jul 23 2012 at 7:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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i had the same feeling as an ignored beta tester and then everyone saying we did a pants job when the steaming pile of poo that was xiv at launched was given to paying customers. i stopped playing when the free time was stopped (nov last year?). it wasnt that good. if 2.0 is ever completed i might take a peak but the elitism/end game had taken hold and its probably not my scene. i just want to have fun in my spare time and relax, neither xi nor xiv are great for doing that for me hence i play sparingly
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#17 Jul 23 2012 at 7:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm having fun in both right now, although XI is getting more of my attention right now. XIV has come a long way, and once 2.0 hits I think it has a decent shot at becoming a good alternate MMO for me.
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#18 Jul 23 2012 at 7:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'd enjoy the current version a lot more if it didn't stop and stutter to load so often. What do I need a SSD to keep that from happening?
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I'd enjoy the current version a lot more if it didn't stop and stutter to load so often. What do I need a SSD to keep that from happening?


Same...I even built this rig just to play it at release and I believe it's gotten worse. I had to turn down all the effects and resolution just to get to a playable framerate.

The direction of going to 'Quest hubs for xp' ala WoW was listed as the main/only source of xp for ver.2

Not sure if I like that idea. I got bored really quick in Rift with that. The big killer I found was I wasn't even reading the story of the quest, just the "What do I need to kill/collect/etc?" It was the same with WoW. To this day I have no idea what any of the lore or back story was in WoW because of that. But I could tell you the whole storyline behind the "Richard the chef" quests in XI, or the Man<tab> quests, or the SOB kids, etc, etc.

Just seems like the direction of MMOs these days is Casual=Solo game play with other people running around instead of NPCs. I guess it's one of those 'Can't have your pie and Edith too'. Don't think SE will be able to successfully combine casual/solo and dedicated/group game play.

I use dedicated in the sense that you are dedicating blocks of your time to group efforts, either xp or events. I don't like using the term hardcore, to me that's those folks that will play "20hr/day, min/max, gotta have it now" to the extreme. I don't think that's wrong at all, as those folks tend to be the trailblazers with information/gear stats/math that help us with less time make better decisions on gear/strats/etc.
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I was going to play XIV until they decided to turn it into a flatout WoW clone. I might play XI once the expansion drops..but besides that, neither game are looking that attractive.
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I have no interest in FFXIV. I don't like MMO's for the sake of MMO's. I started playing FFXI back in '04, because I really enjoyed some of the earlier FF games and their story lines. I'm back into it now for nostalgia's sake. And also to finish what I started way back when. I always bothered me how FFXI required more and more of my time to achieve the higher level things, while my real life afforded me less and less time, giving me no choice but to quit around level 51. With the new dynamics I'm able to actually progress in the limited time I have.

This is most likely my first and last MMO. I tried WoW a couple years ago and it honestly never grabbed me in any real way. It was fun for a moment, but it felt like chaos, people running all over the place killing each other, and the graphics are very cartoonish and not to my liking.

We'll see what happens with FFXIV or what comes after that. Maybe when my kids are grown and I'm retired I can start playing an MMO again. ;)
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I don't know why anyone who played FFXI would migrate to FFXIV after all the shenanigans SE has pulled. There's plenty of other, better options on the market. I just spent a day playing the Guild Wars 2 beta and that's pretty much convinced me that if I leave FFXI there's other things I'd rather spend my time on than another MMORPG under SE's negligent management.
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I don't have the resources (mostly time, but money is also a factor, somewhat) to play more than one MMORPG right now. FFXI is still the place to be for me. If there's a windfall and I win the lottery or something, I might consider giving XIV another try. But I don't expect that to happen any time soon.
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#24 Jul 23 2012 at 10:08 AM Rating: Decent
I don't have any plans to move to 14 at the moment and the way things are currently going on PSO2 the odds of me of going there gone down to nil. I have all but gave up on XI until the expansion comes out.
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#25 Jul 23 2012 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
I left FFXI back in January (my longest break in my 8 years of playing), so I don't think I'll be going back. Signed up for XIV for legacy, played for about 1 week and that was it. The game is better than it was at launch, but still feels like there's a lot missing and it just doesn't keep my attention very long. I'll give 2.0 a try for sure, it's worth a shot and doubt I'll ever go back to XI at this point unless the reviews for the upcoming expansion are amazing.
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I'd rather play FFXI even though I signed up for and played FFXIV the day it was released for about 2 weeks. However, if SE can't demonstrate that they can listen and respond to reasonable suggestions for poorly designed content either ahead of time or much quicker after it is released then they will lose me as a customer for life. This includes things like a lack of an auction house in FFXIV and poorly designed, recent events in FFXI.
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