FINAL FANTASY XI 2012 Roadmap Follow

Hit the nail on the head Camile. Essentially exactly what Abyssea did for me personally, was allow me to have more flexibility with friends. I would encourage them to come as something they've "wanted" to attend as, but people are so torn apart and scarred by the game that they are afraid to. They would literally express to us what they wanted to attend as, then come as something else because they were afraid they wouldn't be "as useful as possible". When we finally got people to let their guard down and just have fun, things got a lot more interesting. Sure, seals didn't come int he abundance they normally would, but when you can kill 4-6 hours just ******** around having fun with different tactics, you end up with a surprising amount of seals & items that you never expected to obtain. In the end, we almost always came out ahead with a "lets enjoy ourselves first" policy.

It's not to say that sometimes coming as a well-fit job isn't a good idea, I mean I played WHM now and again even though I didn't love it, just to help a couple friends out. I'd attend as a mage to help proc even though I wasn't thrilled about it. But to "expect" that someone will attend as those roles every single time you go do something together is foolish. You aren't friends with "the WHM" like when this game first came out. People now have several jobs capped and geared. You are now friends with "the person" who happens to have one of his jobs as a WHM.

Take away the WHM exclusive procs and WHM would have still been the only/preferred healer. That wasn't an Abbysea exclusivity problem. That was an SE "main healing working as intended" problem.

A lot of people never even knew I had black mage at 75, let alone warrior or thief.

I still get to come BRD when we've got a group with at least five people in it. So I'm still getting use out of my Ghorn, but I'm not trapped exclusively on that one job forever and ever.

a big part of the reason Abyssea became to easy and got old fast because they continued to raise the level cap making abyssea which is the newest expansion a joke and feel way to easy. It was also recycled areas, included crap quest, etc.

Edited, May 2nd 2012 3:00pm by Nashred

Least... Interesting... Roadmap... Ever!

I'm not even complaining about "No Expansions! No New Zones! No New Jobs! QQQQQQ" There's nothing in there which makes me excited. And oh look, new pup attachments in six months, when from the last set I only use Disruptor.

Seriously, the only slightly interesting thing is "New Dungeon Crawl System", which will probably be either dominated by gearhounds who will sap all the fun out of it by spamming the same fights for 0.1% drop rate gear and nobody new can get clears or reach the final battle without a weekly static, or it will be so hard that you have to have six (or 18) people with empy stuff just to finish within the time limit.

And I am also concerned that with the awesome success of Pankration and MMM, this has a good chance of being crap. Or if it is successful, then people will do nothing else, compare with today how it seems these days that too many people want to do nothing but grind full sets AF3+2 for six or more jobs. (Actually MMM was kind of fun until the marbles nerf, at which point it was just too much effort to collect runes. And we all know how relic-threateningly OP those marbles weren't.)

I've already been feeling a bit bored with XI lately, and this does nothing to change my plan to suspend at the end of next month.

I use a 37" TV from the couch five feet away. The new resolution options would help inside FFXI, but my problem is that I can't read anything on the screen before I start FFXI, so I simply have my PC set to 720p mode.

Wait, you can get into a VW fight without having the tier? (Oh, you don't get the clear? Never mind, I'm only in it for the warps.) Hang around Jeuno more and watch the FFXIAH shouts. It's hard to find a PUG when you're already doing something else. On Sylph, there are random tier shouts all the time. I've done nothing but VW PUG and have finished through T1 Jeuno, and had to pass on T2 because it was getting late. Sure, it's a minor commitment of at least 3 hours to get six fights done, but if I chill and wait, something will show up.

They tried that once. We eneded up with XIV instead.

Oh yeah, that'll work. How many PUPs use sharpshot to solo? And if you're not solo, why do you need TH when someone else can bring it? On second thought, it's so relatively useless that I wouldn't be surprised to see SE do just that.

What I really expect would be a TH attachment, but you have to keep up maneuvers to get more than TH1. But which maneuver will be either one you don't need for your current setup (like ice maneuvers for Soulsoother) or it'll be a maneuver that causes it to spam something else like crazy (like light maneuvers for Soulsoother). What would be really cool is one that gives TH based on how many maneuvers of any type you have up, TH0-3 or TH1-4. (4 maneuvers is only momentary, so not sure if they could make that give one extra)

Yep, how many "I am new" threads popped up here since Abyss - TONS!

I know a good amount of players who quit and only one of them quit as a result of Abyss/content of XI (the others because of the CC issues, XIV, family or simply been playing too much XI). I my self have seen updates and thought "Nothing" I dont stick around for the hope of those updates I stick around simply because its XI.

Numbers dont seem to be at a point where SE have to even consider another server merge, I am sure if numbers were actually dropping that fast SE would be fast acting - some of the updates show that they are wanting to release new life in to XI.

Strange thing is, when getting in to XI originally you needed massive amount of patience - lets face it the 50s were a NIGHTMARE (back before the EXP changes that resorted in to hacked servers), now all of a sudden some people dont seem to have any. Its just those "Doomsayers" who say XI is dieing/numbers dropping.

Only have to look at WoW and every other MMO that lasted for as long as XI (and Longer) to know long time MMOs struggle regardless. Numbers on WoW are dropping like flies - again I know three of them and two have just quit. Worse thing is no one has suggested WHAT type of new content should be released, just that "I hate this update"............

Seconded. I want what Camiie suggested too. To give the developers some suggestions, here are a few:

-Introduce 2-4 new jobs related to the Far East and Samurai. Everyone playing FF games is somewhat of a Japanophile. Those who aren't still enjoy a good story. Japan folklore has good stories. You could even tie it into some of the existing Japanese mythology like Genbu, Kirin, Byakko, Suzaku, Seiryu. You would also probably delight your Japanese fan base.

-Bring us to the Far East

-Through introduction of these jobs and "training" we could participate in massive battles that give regular small rewards (think: cruor, exp, some small gil, and NPCable/AHable/low level crafting items). People would also play it if there is a chance, but a small one (as long as there is a chance) that you could get best in class items like a VW body.

What.

No seriously, what? If someone was truly your friend, they would be considerate enough to take away from their free time to level, learn, and gear a job they probably don't want to level to you get sh*t from an event that, even if they didn't level the job, you will still get a thousand times faster than you would grinding old endgame, because abyssea drop rates are like candy compared to it? You really didn't put much thought into that, did you? Talk about a stupidly selfish viewpoint...

I mean, it's one thing if someone levels a job to be useful to their LS/group of friends of their own will, especially because it's more likely that they'll enjoy the job if they do it voluntarily, but don't @#%^ing try to guilt people into it or vilify them by calling them a bad friend for not doing it. That's @#%^ing stupid.



To be fair, Bard is useless in abyssea because all the fights are either easy enough that you don't want double march because it'll kill the thing faster than you can proc it for drops, or it's so outrageously hard that the only real reasonable way to kill it without an army of r/m/e users is to just brew it, which is pretty much a near instant win button, march or no march. That relegates bard to exp haste *****, and yea, that sounds like a lot of fun, especially since you'd have to be running a bard rotation to make sure to hit every melee that isn't afk, and half of them won't have the accuracy to hit sh*t anyway. So what's left? Threnody Procs. I love bards, and have played with the idea of leveling it a few times myself, but honestly, unless the bard is the Tarutaru Incarnation of the Old Spice Man wearing a Voyager's Sallet (If you know which taru I'm talking about, you're a mother@#%^ing boss.) there's not a lot of value they add to an abyssea set up when compared to other jobs...


Barrage Turbine, Viv-valve, Barrier Module, and Percolator would like a word with you. They'd like to know whether you forgot how amazing(Barrage Turbine/vivi-valve)/Useful(Barrier Module/Percolator) they are, or whether you might just not be as good at (read: suck) at pup as you think. Hell, Power Cooler isn't bad either, for Soulsoother outside of abyssea, and I make pretty good use of Heat Capacitor when I'm soloing. I'll give you Galvanizer, though. That sh*t's about as useful as Reactive Shield.



Or, instead of a treasure hunter attachment, they could give us an attachment that actually does something. Why the @#%^ would I waste any of my attachment slots on placebo hunter? On ANY puppet? This nonsense about wanting a TH attachment needs to stop...

Edited, May 3rd 2012 7:59pm by Jinte

I bet SE wants to add jobs, but can't think of any unique classes, and that is probably why we're getting the Fight as a Monster! event. Want a new job? How about 50+?

Also, new jobs don't add new life to a game- they give bored players something to do for 3-4 months.

Isn't that all a new job would be at this point anyway? Replace "tp moves" with "unique ja/spells"

Edited, May 3rd 2012 9:36pm by xypin

About the only unique area of abilities left for further exploration would be a job that specializes in throwing stuff, as a counterpoint to ranger. Chemist could equip ranged slot potions for buffs, making them the RNG equivalent of a WHM - throwing gil at your party to heal them, instead of throwing gil at a monster to damage them.

I.E. nobody would do it because why waste money on items, even cheap ones, when you have a job that already does it for MP?