New/Returning Players Read this for the love of AltanaFollow

I know your probably not gonna read this but its getting old seeing so many of these threads pop up lately. Below is a lot of stuff you will want to know about.

1. Important Websites to know:
* BG: End game stuff
* ffxiah: Auction house stuff
* Campsitetarus: Camp sites for anywhere pre abyssea.
* Official Forums: This is where they announce new stuff and you can give your feedback. Be warned though there is a massive amount of players on this board that are subpar to put it nicely.
* FFXI wiki: The most complete wiki for 11, though Alla and BG do have wikis as well.
* If your on PC google Spoilerwindower.


All of these sites are important for any FFXI player to know. Almost all players use all of these sites during there adventure and they are invaluable for progressing in this game. As a general note be sure to remember that a lot of information available on Alla/BG/Wiki is from when we were at various level caps, so take some of the stated difficulties with a grain of salt.

2. Important FFXI related stuff.

* Road Map Is it to late to come back?? Hell no its not. This a road map for the next year or so on new stuff.

* Verified by Visa/ Mastercard secured list: This is a list is a bit old but is probably still current of banks that are and aren't VV and MCS.

* Bypassing 3d secure: If your bank isnt appropriate this is how you get past it.

* Firefox: If your playing this game your going to want this internet browser with No script and adblock plugins installed. Remember to please whitelist Alla, they screen their ads.

* Security Token: If your serious about sticking with 11 or are wanting to play 14 when it stops sucking, your gonna want to have one of these. Their are in-game bonuses in both games for owning one, though 11s is best as its more storage for all your rock salt and flint stones.

3. General answers to stuff about stuff for new players.

* FFXI is not dead.

* Its not to late to start from scratch since FFXI is not dead.

* The server merge is coming in the next Version update, character creation on worlds involved is prohibited till after the merge.

* End game currently as of 4/11/11 is pretty much strictly abyssea and magian. Dynamis is pretty much dead (though that will change during the upcoming version update), along with Limbus, sky, sea, KSNM, BCNM, ZNM, VNM, Einherjar, Nyzul isle, and Salvage.

With that being said, there still are groups of people doing all of these events and camping the old HNMs. So if your interested in any of those you can still find players doing it in various quantities.

* Levels 1-30 are pretty much a solo fest. Dont expect a party till 20 or so when you can hit qufim. Once you hit 30, you will need to own the abyssea exspansions. Leeching exp in abyssea is the fastest and least painful way of leveling your job. You can still level outside of abyssea and I implore you to do that since you will need to cap your skills anyway.

* Making gil is pretty easy.

1. Join an exp alliance in abyssea.
2. Wait 3-6 hours.
3. ???
4. Profit

Npcing cruor and dominion notes stuff can make you a lot of gil very easily.

* Every job can solo.

* FFXI is not dead.

* Dont forget signet/sigil/sanction when in appropriate areas.

* Crafting isnt worth leveling really at this day in age unless you have
a lot of $$$ and are bored. SE as of lately is moving towards the synergy system as well which is mildly complex.

4. General answers to stuff about stuff for Returning players.

* You pretty much have to buy all of the Abyssea expansions.

* Your old gear is pretty much garbage, but dont toss it. With the version updating pending you will be able to augment it so it wont suck as bad.

* Getting new gear is very easy. Do you have a DD job preferably NIN/THF/WAR/MNK and a friend with WHM? Then if you answered yes then you can pretty much tackle all of abyssea.

* Gil is easy to make.

5. Abyssea Quick Guide

* Get all you confluxes, wiki has maps for you.

* There are 3 types of weaknesses in Abyssea. They are indicated by a grellow (green/yellowish) !!, a Blue !!, or a Red !!. These weaknesses prevent the mob from doing the following for about 30 seconds for the first proc. Generally you only proc each weakness once, as abusing the weakness causes the effect to diminish and lowers the percentage of what the weakness causes.

Red freezes the enemey. (Grants 99% drop rate of Key items/Abyssites/Atmas)
Blue prevents TP moves. (Large increase of rare drop percentages)
Grellow prevents casting (Opens extra slots for basic items to drop, ie AF3 seals)

None of these can be triggered while the NM is casting or readying a tp move or during a TP that an effect from another weakness trigger is active ( you cant proc yellow for example while the freeze effect of the red proc is still active) . Certain monsteres attacks are counted as TP moves so be careful.

Red procs are governed by 13 established elemental weaponskills.
Blue procs are governed by what time of day it is which corresponds to a certain damage type.
Grellow procs are governed by what element the day of the week is. Prior/current/Future elements of the current day can all by triggers.

You can find the list of all the spells and WS needed to proc on wiki.



I'm sure no one is going read any of this, but who cares least I tried.






Edited, Apr 11th 2011 9:30am by Alobont

Edited, Apr 11th 2011 9:30am by Alobont

It's one thing to have a new player ask questions, but when you continue to see the same ones over and over again, it gets old. How many "Is it still worth coming back" threads do we really need? I agree with Alobont.

This is an awesome idea.

Should add to check out Mog Satchel, Mog Sack and Porter Moogle.

Appreciate the comments.

I personally like the new/returning players threads... without them there wouldn't be a lot to read/comment on... plus I actually have something to say about the whole thing (when people start talking math I can't do much to contribute)

I read many Wiki pages, Getting Started Guides, and the stickied thread on this forum. I still had questions and asked them, and while I know this thread isn't directed only at me, it's still pretty annoying to see it in conjunction with my thread on the same page, so I ask: is it really that bad to ask questions when you still have them after doing your research and trying the game? Is it so horrible to find that making Gil and getting Exp isn't always about doing it in 5 seconds flat with a party or leeching/begging for some players? Is it bad for a player to play the game as Square intended and subsequently have questions that aren't answered in many of the guides because most of the guides are based around the easiest possible way even if it involves things that most new players generally won't know about?



Sounds to me like what you just said is it IS annoying, otherwise who cares if they/we ask the same thing?

When many of the guides read like, "Go to Seadlefrach and form a PT of an LS with a LOL, grind for ABCD's on Zamblebobs, you'll get 5 billion Gil if you sell at the AH! Oh but only the AH in Fogglepop, which you can't reach until Level 80, but you can have a BRB take you there for now." And of course Leveling guides are completely contradictory as are many of the things posted on this forum. "You need a party and you'll level up in 10 minutes!" "Don't party before level 30, it's easier to solo!" etc. etc.

IMO it's clearly better to post your own situation, accurately described and in an intelligible post, with your questions in that. I've gotten far more accurate and informative answers out of the thread I posted than I have out of any of the guides or past threads on this board. I'm more interested in soloing and experiencing the game world, but of course need Gil and Levels to do that. Asking around about these things with that in mind yields different answers than if someone just wants to get to level cap as soon as possible with as little effort as possible.

One final note, repeating "Gil is easy to make" over a bunch of times doesn't help any new person. Telling them to sell 12 crystals at the Auction House does. Saying things that some random n00b in Bastok has no reason to know about yet (Abyssea, for example, that doesn't even come with the collection on Steam by default) is equally unhelpful except for for those people who just want to get things as quickly as possible. For this and many other reasons I think it's fine to have many threads asking similar questions with different situations involved. Who exactly is it hurting? Is a text-based forum post eating up someone's bandwidth? If you do want to have one single thread for answers I suggest taking many situations into consideration, not everyone wants to just get to level cap, and not everyone wants to solo and take in the game slowly either. This would need a much, much more comprehensive list than what is in the OP, though.

Nice.

I love helping new players, but seriously...WIKI!!!!!

First thing I do is tell the new player about wiki, so they can find necessary information themselves without asking every 2 min "what now?".

Very nice post, just needs to be edited to lack the sarcasm ;)
Although isnt there currently a new players thread? maybe that needs editting, I vote Albont. Give Albont some work to do!
:)

I just might sig this.

Thanks for doing this. Good collection of basic info about the game in it's current form. It can only help to have this here and it should be stickied.

In all honesty though it's a fair reason for Alobont to bring it up. If it were one or two topics that popped up, then yes, it'd be something easily avoidable (and in turn would probably not be an issue at all), but if you notice, we've seen a sizable influx of new or returning players, and a lot of them are making new topics asking the same questions, and with the a large number of these topics making up the front page of =10, it only makes sense that he'd want to say something. Yes, the way he went about laying everything out wasn't the nicest way of putting things, but he did go all the trouble of laying out a good amount of information that covers most all the bases of the questions being asked, and if a lot of new members took the time to read it or other related posts (or even took the time to read some of the other topics that new players have posted), then a good number of their questions would already be answered.

Edited, Apr 12th 2011 11:44pm by Vlorsutes