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Please do explain how any of those NMs can take a long time with 18 people. With 18 people you should be doing multiple nms at once. Just have one person travel around popping those nms while a group fights it. KI shows up regardless of distance from mob.
Can still take 5-10 trying to proc all the !!s even with a discernment atma, and since the same dude has to claim everything, you're set back when someone else beats you to Gangly Green claim, or there's a group low-manning Kukulkan and taking their sweet time about it.
My initial point, which seems to have been lost in all this arguing over gimpness, was that you can go into Konschtat with 0 KIs for the set, farm the pop set while getting !!s and drops and abyssites and atma off each NM, and finish it off with a fight against EE, all in the space of 2 hours, without even bothering to farm up time.