Masamune Vs. Amanomurakumo Follow

Yeah, it has nothing to do with habitually and purposefully coming off as unnecessarily offensive or judgmental at all.




It's not actually incorrect to say that a Fudo weapon will beat Amano, and I was never arguing otherwise. What I was arguing against is unnecessarily putting a job down just because it doesn't have the absolute bar-none top of the line gear. This game is not so damned hard that you need to be the best of the best to not be "useless".




None of that **** is necessary at all. Just say that Fudo is going to be better (how much better, I don't even know) and leave it at that. Gets the point across, you don't look like a silly ****. Win-win.




There is a fine line between being crass and being a jackass.




Except anyone with a brain knows lolkarma is meaningless, especially trying to budge the karma of someone with that many posts.




Thank goodness someone else around here gets it.

Id say even with a Blau if you are not a complete handisnack when you gear (like gearing for ACC in your case).

I'm starting to wonder just how many people actually read my posts anymore.

Except that would not get my point across. My point was that masamune makes such a huge difference that a sam without it is pretty much the second worst dd, far behind even mages, and even brd. However, with one, it's actually a situationally useful job, that won't be (easily) beaten by whm, rdm, brd, etc.

With the ones I've been in, once lights are built the melee generally try and kill as fast as possible, with any blm's or rdm's there trying to get in a quick nuke before someone ws's it down. Maybe not a pure tp burn, but if you used another job to cap azure and got rid of the blm's, you'd get about the same result.

I've heard of that being done, but never been in an alliance that's actually done it on purpose. Was in one where a blm was solo nuking mobs down, but pretty sure it wasn't planned. I've never organized a full exp run though, just the occasional te/feet/nm farm with my ls.

We build lights and te's before nm/while nm farming, it's just we don't generally split into specific groups. If there's enough of us we'll fight more than one mob at a time, but that's it.
We're also still looking for a lot of base feet pieces, so that's another reason for us to build lights.

It kind of is. And kaiten is garbage. And by garbage, i mean worse than gekko in most cases.

Edited, Dec 17th 2010 5:13pm by ThePsychoticOne

Heres the thing:
For exp parties, sam are fine, even non fudo will be top dps 95% of the time, since most people in exp parties dont have RR or empy ws. Yes rog can solo 12+ mobs at a time on his/her blm blah blah, and yes someone with RR [and/or] an empy ws (or even nyzul ws for some) will out dd a non fudo sam 95% of the time. Point is, an AVERAGE exp pt, not these glorified "you should have 3 blm soloing 12 mobs each" ones that happen on maybe 1 sever ;-p


Start looking at NMs and maybe not, people who do NM tend to have more atma, better ws, etc. So in an NM situation I can see Sam01214104 getting benched for a monk/thf/nin/pup with a crit ws and RR atma easily.

For years it was sam or gtfo, so lots of people have sam as their main now and without fudo they cant compete against other classes (which is pretty much how my monk and pup felt for years being told no thx, your not a sam no nyzul boss floor for you)

Truth be told though, my pup with backhand blow RR and VV out dds a sam friend with whatever atma he uses, i know hes got a few but I know he doesnt have fudo. 2k dmg ws on a low level piece of crap thing i never used until abyssea ;-p Cant wait to finish my empy ws

Edited, Dec 17th 2010 5:45pm by dustinfoley

More people would probably try to read your posts if you stopped trying to sound like a jerkass in as many of them as you can.



That would have made for a far better first response to this thread than what you actually posted.

Edited, Dec 17th 2010 7:08pm by Fynlar

If SAM can have Masamune then RDM can have Mandau.




Edited, Dec 17th 2010 8:17pm by Lobivopis

Uh....no. Don't make me break out my 5-6k Ukko's Fury pics. And not in EXP, on NM-HNM level stuff.

That would be a lot more impressive if it wasn't Brew'ed. And on a different mob.


Edited, Dec 17th 2010 8:36pm by Hexagram

Never seen it used but on paper it does look stronger. Drakesbane isn't far behind though.

Ukko's Fury

2 hit, fTP 2.25 STR50% TP=Crit rate

Drakesbane

4 hit, fTP 1.0 STR50% TP=Crit rate.