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#77 Jun 10 2010 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent

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You forgot BLM in that list up there, oh, wait, BLMs don't get party invites, they don't go in any list that includes "all mages".

Well... No duh?

You'd have to be some sort of... I don't know... raving *** to be sore about a job not getting an AOE haste when it natively has neither haste nor the ability to make it AOE in the first place.

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#78 Jun 10 2010 at 1:05 PM Rating: Good

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So are there animations on these new JA's we could punch into altanaviewer or whatever to have a look?

Locations of the .DATs are in the OP for Altanaviewer

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#79 Jun 10 2010 at 1:19 PM Rating: Excellent

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New DRK JA

Neat.

Maybe I'll load them all up and throw it on youtube.

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#80 Jun 10 2010 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good

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New DRK JA

Neat.

Maybe I'll load them all up and throw it on youtube.

Please do. I'm stuck at work with no AltanaView...

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Human (?) females look ugly.

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#81 Jun 10 2010 at 1:30 PM Rating: Default

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Dark body armor looks cool,
The orange one looks like somebody crossed assault jerkin with dessultor tassets.

It's almost certainly for RNG. You can tell just by looking at it.

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Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.

I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20

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#82 Jun 10 2010 at 1:33 PM Rating: Default

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ImmortalAlchemist wrote:

- Bombilation: AoE TP Down - Gnats

OH NOES! A TP down ability, no matter how small would BREAK THE GAME!!!ONEONEONE

Edited, Jun 10th 2010 4:35pm by Lobivopis

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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:

Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.

I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20

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#83 Jun 10 2010 at 1:34 PM Rating: Excellent

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Lobivopis wrote:

ImmortalAlchemist wrote:

- Bombilation: AoE TP Down - Gnats

OH NOES that will BREAK THE GAME!!!ONEONEONE

If Feather Tickle is any indication, it's not even going to be worth putting in your spell list.

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Human (?) females look ugly.

Post in /K/ where the orbital laser system is now online.

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#84 Jun 10 2010 at 1:38 PM Rating: Excellent

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Hastega never gave anyone invites though. Trust the Summoner, they know these kinds of things.

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#85 Jun 10 2010 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent

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Aliekber wrote:

Lobivopis wrote:

ImmortalAlchemist wrote:

- Bombilation: AoE TP Down - Gnats

OH NOES that will BREAK THE GAME!!!ONEONEONE

If Feather Tickle is any indication, it's not even going to be worth putting in your spell list.

I'm being sarcastic. Last year there was a huge flame war in the Thief forum over the idea of Mandau having a Plague effect instead of Poison. Some people claimed that giving a 3TP per tick TP down effect to a weapon where only 350 exist across all servers would completely break and destroy the game beyond any hope of repair.

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Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.

I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20

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#86 Jun 10 2010 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good

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Lobivopis wrote:

Aliekber wrote:

Lobivopis wrote:

ImmortalAlchemist wrote:

- Bombilation: AoE TP Down - Gnats

OH NOES that will BREAK THE GAME!!!ONEONEONE

If Feather Tickle is any indication, it's not even going to be worth putting in your spell list.

I'm being sarcastic. Last year there was a huge flame war in the Thief forum over the idea of Mandau having a Plague effect instead of Poison. Some people claimed that giving a 3TP per tick TP down effect to a weapon where only 350 exist across all servers would completely break and destroy the game beyond any hope of repair.

Ah. I never really go to the THF forums, didn't know about that.

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Human (?) females look ugly.

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#87 Jun 10 2010 at 1:47 PM Rating: Excellent

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Mellowy wrote:

Hastega never gave anyone invites though. Trust the Summoner, they know these kinds of things.

Maybe Hastega won't bring invites, but the absence of a 1 minute timer on all your other support spell as a consequence for casting it sure will.

It's like laughing at myself in the mirror now, god I hate being a SMN.

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#88 Jun 10 2010 at 1:54 PM Rating: Good

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If Feather Tickle is any indication, it's not even going to be worth putting in your spell list.

You know, I don't think I have ever used that spell, or even set it. Not once, not even for shiggles.

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Hastega never gave anyone invites though. Trust the Summoner, they know these kinds of things.

Sadly, this is true.

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#89 Jun 10 2010 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good

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xbobbobx wrote:

pup isnt really a JA job, the puppet would get maybe mroe attachments that would give it more ja, the master I dont think really needs anything besides more martial arts traits.

Yeah NIN does not need any job abilities either just more dual wield and spells!

Just shut up Bob, god. You have become to PUP what Mellowy is to SMN.
While on the idea of SMN that comment would be the same as saying SMN really did not need to get elemental siphon because it is all about the pet. Honestly SMN did not need elemental siphon, but it is really nice to get close to 300 MP.

WTF defines "JA job" too? Corsair?

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#90 Jun 10 2010 at 2:02 PM Rating: Good

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About 20 minutes on the youtube link, plus I'll have to do some annotations because movie maker didn't want to load the raw file.

The two COR animations don't load though. Probably just calls the roll animation.

Tummie could throw me the .dat locations for the new spells too and I'll make another video for them.

Edited, Jun 10th 2010 1:03pm by Raelix

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#91 Jun 10 2010 at 2:05 PM Rating: Default

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When you load up the mob models in the viewer can you gauge the relative size compared to a player model?

New spells/ja's aside I'm still curious to how big those new abysea mandys are...

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#92 Jun 10 2010 at 2:12 PM Rating: Decent

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PlanckZero wrote:

When you load up the mob models in the viewer can you gauge the relative size compared to a player model?

New spells/ja's aside I'm still curious to how big those new abysea mandys are...

Most things are scaled in-game. I think I remember something about Krab being normal size in the .dats.

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#93 Jun 10 2010 at 2:18 PM Rating: Decent

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BelenosSwiftWater wrote:

xbobbobx wrote:

pup isnt really a JA job, the puppet would get maybe mroe attachments that would give it more ja, the master I dont think really needs anything besides more martial arts traits.

Yeah NIN does not need any job abilities either just more dual wield and spells!

Just shut up Bob, god. You have become to PUP what Mellowy is to SMN.
While on the idea of SMN that comment would be the same as saying SMN really did not need to get elemental siphon because it is all about the pet. Honestly SMN did not need elemental siphon, but it is really nice to get close to 300 MP.

WTF defines "JA job" too? Corsair?

COR, DNC and SCH mainly and PUP actually is a 'JA' intensive job on a lesser level unless I've been playing it wrong >.> It just doesn't need more JAs than it has compared to jobs like SCH which lives on JAs.

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#94 Jun 10 2010 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent

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ThePsychoticOne the Prohpet wrote:

OmegaTyrant wrote:

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You forgot BLM in that list up there, oh, wait, BLMs don't get party invites, they don't go in any list that includes "all mages".

Do you really want to be Hasting melee on your BLM? -_-

The thing I'm trying to point out here is that NOT ALL MAGES will get AOE Haste, ok? So, the poster I quoted was wrong in pointing out all mages were gonna get that spell, one of them will now be the odd ball out, poor BLMs, getting shafted more and more with each update. One fewer reason to invite them to a party.

Uh, why would not getting hastega affect them getting parties? The only difference is that hastega uses less mp than haste*3-5, which doesn't matter if they have more than enough mp. Besides, between enspells, stoneskin, etc, you may not even always http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=1276154826210246514&post=1&replyto=127619669084856646&page=2#want to use a charge on hastega.

I was being sarcastic, BLMs and parties don't mix anymore, probably never again. Whatever, you are all way off the mark, missing the point of what I said, here let me put it out in plain english:

Do not state that all mages get a form of Hastega now, because BLM is still defined as a mage and they don't have any way to get that. Same goes for any other statement similar to that one. Are we clear?

Good.

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#95 REDACTED, Posted: Jun 10 2010 at 2:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) first beleons, stfu you know nothing.

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#96 Jun 10 2010 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good

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Raelix wrote:

About 20 minutes on the youtube link, plus I'll have to do some annotations because movie maker didn't want to load the raw file.

The two COR animations don't load though. Probably just calls the roll animation.

Tummie could throw me the .dat locations for the new spells too and I'll make another video for them.

Edited, Jun 10th 2010 1:03pm by Raelix

ROM/246/67.DAT - Holy II
ROM/246/124.DAT - Unknown WHM Spell
ROM/246/125.DAT - Unknown WHM Spell
ROM/246/126.DAT - NIN Spell

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Seriously, you won't be @#%^ing happy until SE releases a full sized Bahamut avatar you can @#%^ing ride and use to kill players that annoy you, one shot AV/PW/Shinryuu, and burn the FFXI nations to the @#%^ing ground for fun. All while actually restoring mp used instead of costing any.

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#97 Jun 10 2010 at 2:36 PM Rating: Excellent

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Video of new JAs.

Throw it in the OP if you like Tummie.

Edited, Jun 10th 2010 1:41pm by Raelix

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#98 Jun 10 2010 at 2:36 PM Rating: Excellent

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xbobbobx wrote:

how is PUP a JA intesive job, they have Two native JA one at level one, one at level 15, and 2 merited ones. They are one of the jobs with the least amount of JA's in the game.

PUP's need to use their maneuvers to increase certain stats on their auto's and help them perform better. Most PUP's are using JA's every 20-30 seconds so in a way yes, PUP is a JA intensive Job. It's not the amount of JA's they have (They have 8 elemental maneuvers alone) but the repeated use of said maneuvers.

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Seriously, you won't be @#%^ing happy until SE releases a full sized Bahamut avatar you can @#%^ing ride and use to kill players that annoy you, one shot AV/PW/Shinryuu, and burn the FFXI nations to the @#%^ing ground for fun. All while actually restoring mp used instead of costing any.

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#99 Jun 10 2010 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent

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xbobbobx wrote:

first beleons, stfu you know nothing.

COR, DNC and SCH mainly and PUP actually is a 'JA' intensive job on a lesser level unless I've been playing it wrong >.> It just doesn't need more JAs than it has compared to jobs like SCH which lives on JAs.

how is PUP a JA intesive job, they have Two native JA one at level one, one at level 15, and 2 merited ones. They are one of the jobs with the least amount of JA's in the game.

And, like BST or SMN, all they do all day long is spam those few JAs because it's the only way they have of controlling their pets.

JA intensive job doesn't mean they have a buttload of JAs, no, it means that's pretty much all they do. In contrast, a Job like BLM is a spell intensive Job.

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#100 REDACTED, Posted: Jun 10 2010 at 2:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) "PUP's need to use their maneuvers to increase certain stats on their auto's and help them perform better. Most PUP's are using JA's every 20-30 seconds so in a way yes, PUP is a JA intensive Job. It's not the amount of JA's they have (They have 8 elemental maneuvers alone) but the repeated use of said maneuvers"

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#101 Jun 10 2010 at 2:45 PM Rating: Excellent

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This is not a thread for semantics. Go argue it in the appropriate pet job forum. Opinions etc.

Call me anti-semantic if you like.

Edited, Jun 10th 2010 1:46pm by Raelix

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