Warning to Players SE is STILL Banning!Follow

OMG!!!! They have gone to far. I would have been fuming.

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/97h8z/has_squareenix_banned_logic/

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High horse much?

But ok, let's address your points here:
1: Entire account for gardening: I'll grant you that seems a tad extreme but what do you think the odds are that any legit players were actually doing that WITH AN ENTIRE ACCOUNT and then NPCing everything they got. Most of the stories I've heard have been from people who gardened on a bunch of mules, not a totally separate account, and they would have shipped off the good stuff to the auction house. Also how about we follow the money.. The gardener makes money from whatever it is they're doing, they mail the money off to the player's main character to be used for good times. Both of those accounts would most likely be on the same credit card wouldn't they? That means it's not an RMT transaction, especially as the main character would then have used the money to buy stuff (and the aforementioned good times)

2: RMT have to make money the same way everyone else does. When the STF was commissioned, SE stated they'd investigate each case to ensure that legit players weren't punished unjustly. That's the opposite of what's happened.

3: Obviously contacting each player is not going to work, the man-power involved in that would be ridiculous. But SOME investigation would be nice, instead they turned over the banhammer to a script someone threw together and said go.

4: Fun fact: It doesn't take 6 people to do an avatar fight, they can be easily duo'd (well not Fenrir) and owning 2 accounts is not that strange.

5: So you have no sympathy for people being banned unjustly because you think they should have made their money some other way? No, I'm sorry, but all your arguments are fatally flawed. There's no reason in the entire world a legit player shouldn't be able to make money how they want to make money within the rules of the game. Additionally, all of the methods you just suggested apart from spending hours farming require either a massive time/money investment (crafting) or additional people; gardening requires just yourself and your pots.

I was told that more then one person had access to my account. Then I told them I had a security key. They decide to put in a backup complaint. This was 3 weeks ago. I'm still LM-17'ed.

I wonder for those banned for playing from different ip, do you leave your character logged in all the time, so that when you log in from next location it will boot the first? The reason I ask is lets say you are logged in at home and travel a few hundred miles away and log in again, if SE is tracing ip to a general part of the world and see that you traveled hundred of miles it what appears to be just a few seconds, because your first system was left on and got booted when logged into second system.

I don't travel. I have 3 little kids under the age of 6 and spend my days at home with them and play in the evenings when the kids are in bed and I can relax. I have a modem which we turn off at bed time every day and turn on in the morning. Game off every day.

I just got the luck of the draw to have happened onto an IP that someone who WAS doing suspicious activities had used prior and got banned for their activities.

My opinion. Look at my ACCOUNT. My CHARACTERS. MY actions. Not my damned IP address. SE fk'd up. Now give me my account back.

You know, hubby and I did some quick math last night and figured out that over the last 5½ years of playing we have spent just over $4000 on this stupid game.

$4000!!?!?!?!? I could have a large chunk towards buying a house if I'd saved that money instead. You'd think the fact that I've invested that much of my income to their business would mean that they'd at least have some decency to treat me with respect.

Sigh.

I have exactly one person I trust with my account and from time to time I (at least I have in the past, I probably won't do it anymore) have asked that person to do something for me when I am unavailable. Usually, it's deliver a pop item to someone in my linkshell when I suddenly know I won't be able to get on or to give them access to an item I might have.

What's the problem if I allow someone else access to MY account? Suspicious RMT activity? Maybe I have been hacked by RMT? Honestly, this should no longer be a problem the minute I activated my token..

In every aspect, SE has made playing their own game more difficult than any other game I know. If they are banning from one deciding factor like IP Address (which most people do not have control over), the program is flawed and needs to be rewritten or updated.

You also have to consider that they have a "guest login" option on the PlayOnline viewer as well, so clearly they knew people would log on away from their main computer at home, using a friend's or what have you. So keeping that in mind, how would they even know if it were indeed you or a friend you gave permission logging in to begin with? It could just be you at another IP address, so "more than one person having access to the account" is kind of a stupid argument because it is clear they intended for you to be able to access your account on other computers, whether it be you or someone else is literally impossible to tell. Using an IP address to determine that is just flawed in itself, since people obviously go to friends' houses or have dynamic IPs. I wonder if the suits at SE realize how stupid they look right now or if they really are this oblivious.

I haven't played for a long time, since before christmas . The way SE has been acting makes me incredibly reluctant to reactivate my account - they seem to be pretty much banning indiscriminately and its rather scary . I think I'm going to just not play until XIV comes out, and even then I'll wait a while to see how they treat their players .

So what you're saying is they are basically saying that if I've been wrongly accused of RMTing... I'm SOL. Great. I knew that whole ban complaint file was a load of crock. I want my account back. :( :(

I hate to agree with Kerberoz... but well... I agree with Kerberoz.

Bad press is one of the only possible weapons at our disposal.

Unfortunately I've tried several times to get kotaku to post a story on it, but not only have they ignored my emails regarding it (including links and citations) they've also deleted comments I've made linking to Thayos' editorial. They clearly don't want to know this.

Other non-kotaku sites though may be willing to post things if appropriately contacted though.

so has it stopped? has anyone else been banned in this past few days?

the gigant mean ban bot stopped targetting innocent players?