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Agree on the fact that, without specific sub, Evisceration wins.

With correct sub, I do like my Vorpal Blade

Fun Fact:

RDM used to have even weaker Sword skill than now, and if you notice, RDM's starting weapon is actually a dagger not a sword.

It was til a later time, when people discovered BRD has higher sword skill than RDM, and people complaint how does BRD have highest sword skill than RDM when RDM suppose to be a "melee mage", which is then SE boosted RDM's sword skill to it is now.

Well actually its quite the opposite, for me at least. If you take a look at my sig, as well as the other characters I've lvl'd, you'll notice I've had experience to some degree with a bit of each job. My patience at this point is very very thin. I would rather farm while lfg, or sit in my MH, as opposed to dealing with gimpy/crummy players. Yes, its true alot of the newer players lack some of the refined upbringing us old school players were formed around. However alot of the newbs simply dont want your advice or take offense to suggestions. I too had a similar issue while xping nin for the 3rd time.

I was at the Jungle camp outside of Sea Seperant Grotto, party setup was NIN(Me),MNK(GF), SCH, WAR, THF, RDM. Lvl Range 27-31. Honestly I'm not a big fan of thfs pre-30, but they have to get to 30 somehow so I dont give alot of lip or anything. This thf, however was in lvl 17 gear using a lvl 20 Merc dagger and was about 1 lvl above everyone else, war sub and had no ring, belt, earrings, or back slot. The war in the party was /mnk and insisted on using a sword and shield.....I gave the war a suggestion of picking up a GA if /mnk was going to be in her future. In any case the party was struggling and I had a chat with the leader in /tell. I then requested leader and basically told the thf and war they were dead weight and had to remove them from the party. I got a blm and mnk as a replacement and we were golden.

I think after having put so many lvls into my characters, I simply no longer have the patience to deal with halfa^&#d put together parties. It was interesting that the OP was not willing to put up with a crappy rdm, but willing to deal with a WAR tank at 59ish. Personally War tank can work if the kills are very quick, but parties at that lvl where you can pull out the speed kills you need to make it effective are far and few between. I would actually like to commmend the 1st RDM for staying as long as he/she did to at least see if it would work out, because tbh even if I was in that party as a thf I wouldnt have been around long enough to find out. ^^;

Edited, May 5th 2008 1:35am by Eliteos

However some people actually would like to level jobs, not sit around for endless hours not leveling. That means putting up with lower exp, trying odd combinations, and just making do. Unless people stop partying altogether, which in this game seems to be an increasing trend.

5k an hour at 59 is fine and any rdm or brd or other primadonna that would leave to get a better party deserves to be blisted, imho.

Only if you want it to be good sir :P

LOL, this is gonna sound strange, but I have elemental staves for my ninja, I rarely use them, but from time to time I feel like killing a mob without hitting it...

Edited, May 5th 2008 4:59pm by twofli

I love how you don't mention SMN in your all mage jobs use them at 75 thing ;) (Considering they get THE most use out of all 8 =P)

But yes, they do still exist, I get them a lot >_< Mainly on my BLU, but they refresh the white mage... just not me -.-

Edited, May 5th 2008 11:22am by DigiDude

4.5k/hr in pre-ToAU zilart/wotg zones.
6-7k/hr in ToAU.
9-10k/hr in merits.

Simple benchmarks for a party, dip below these marks and your doing worse than a standard party in 2004: nothing to write home about.

I still dun get this arguement.

exp/hr doesn't satisfy one person so he left to try for a better group and that makes him a prick? Some people play for fun and don't care how much exp/hr they are getting, whereas for some people when they exp, exp/hr is all they care about, they find high exp/hr the fun part in a PT, that doesnt make them a prick, just different people enjoy different things.

Most people have an issue with people like that is because the person left their PT and they ended up back on hold til they can get a replacement, but that isn't the issue of the person that left. It is simply conflicting of interest, while you prefer "any exp is better than no exp", the person that left perfer "fast exp > no exp > slow exp".

I do get annoyed when people left due to exp/hr wasn't up to the person's standard and everyone jump on him and go "OMFG you left my PT cause we not good enough, you prick!!!" If the exp/hr is slow, that person might not find it fun, I apologise for people didn't stick to a PT that they didn't enjoy just for your sake.

/SMN used to be a good sub, for the max MP boost (helps Convert) and auto Refresh helps your mp last longer. While BLM also have Conserve MP trait, I find Conserve MP helps more when you cast more high MP cost spell constantly and when they kick in your safe a lot of MP. But while spells like Paralyze and other enfeebles, MP cost is low so even when Conserve MP kicks in you don't save that much MP, in a constant low MP cost spell situation the Auto Refresh seems to help a lot.

Although now /PLD also offer auto Refresh as well as Flash, but then at 75 you most likely wouldn't choose a sub due to the Refresh trait anymore.

It makes him a prick because the amount of xp/hr the pt was getting was respectable, and if he weren't on some much needed job like rdm he would stick it out and like it, but because he is a rdm he gets to be pissy and leave, therefore ******** up 5 other people's xp/hour.