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#377 Sep 16 2006 at 11:23 AM Rating: Decent
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There is only one texture for baby chocobos. Any differences people are noticing about their eyes of all things are due to differences with their monitors/tvs, videocards, and their own eyes. Two people could look at the same image and have one say it was brown, and the other say red. Regardless, there is only one color of eye possible.
#378 Sep 16 2006 at 12:50 PM Rating: Decent
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one note on the charts that have +1 and +1 info. Basic care barely raises those +1 stats you have there. Its more or less the choice that keeps stats from decreasing more so than raising them. I highly doubt basic care is as good as a walk around town for the physical stats. I think its more apropriatly +.5 or some other fraction of that number.
#379 Sep 16 2006 at 1:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I finally got a stat above poor on day 22(strength and endurance), and I'm wondering if anyone has a stat above substandard. I'm raising mine in a balanced manner (swapping between music and walks on the chick stage, carrying packages and displaying to the public now that it's older), so mine probably has lower stats than someone who's only concentrating on mental or physical attributes. I'm wondering how much lower it is though.

Edited, Sep 16th 2006 at 5:36pm EDT by Urthdigger
#380 Sep 16 2006 at 2:05 PM Rating: Decent
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w00t! I broke the color code!

I believe i know how to tell what color your chocobo will be when its in the chick stage. My bird, Duke, had completely red eyes. They had no black whatsoever, and he grew up to have black feathers. Now my friend, his chick had black eyes, and grew up with white tips. This could be an early indicator on whether or not your chick will be blue/black.

Others please post if you remember the color of yor chick's eyes before it became an adolescent, this could be the way we tell the color of our birds.


um...No.

It's called color accuracy. Certain monitors display colors similary, but not exactly the same. Same thing can be said for color printers. It has nothing to do with color, just your type of monitor and its quality of colors. This is also sometime digital artists worry about (Feielle would know what I'm talkin about).
#381 Sep 16 2006 at 2:49 PM Rating: Good
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Feeding Vomp Carrot | 1 | 1 | - | - | 1 | 1 | - |
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Feeding Zegham Carrot | - | - | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | - |
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Feeding San d'Orian Carrot| 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | - |
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About feeding-
Yesterday I was happy to finally see two stats at substandard. (Dis and Rec) However I fed a vomp carrot thinking It would be good to also work on str as the npc says they are good for. Now after each item I feed I ask about condition. The vomp carrot LOWERED my Dis back down to poor.

This doesnt make me belive, but shows me for a fact that foods that are based on one stat reduce others. I was sad to see my stat drop, but at the same time Im happy to have found this out.
#382 Sep 16 2006 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
Does anyone know If I could buy Gregarious Worm from an NPC?
#383 Sep 16 2006 at 3:53 PM Rating: Default
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pdragonfly wrote:
pdragonfly wrote:
pdragonfly wrote:
Day 23

Took a walk in town - interested in everything.
fed 3 vomps
Raced - won again
Regular walk - rainy weather
Read story - happy bird
Watched over 4x's

checked on him:
Strenght and Endurance - substandard
still regards me as parent (creeps me out a bit)

have him on carrying packages for next couple of days.


Day 24
Same routine as above
Stats slight change from above: no longer a parent (yeah) - wants to be with me all the time.


Day 25
Noticed a change
I fed, raced him (still won) and also told him a story.
This time he did not have enough energy to watch over him (noticable change from being able to 4x on day 23)
weather in LaThein clear

I'm wondering now if being in the rain leaves him with more energy. Have to keep an eye on this.


Day 26
Same routine:
Carry packages 200 gil
Feed 3 vomp carrots
Regular walk - raining (made mistake of not raceing him first
Race others - still won
Told Story - happy bird

Out of energy, none left to watch over it.

No change in status
#384 Sep 16 2006 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
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The care plan chart on the begining is wrong I believe. I was studying the chart some more, and what the npc says, and for certain things, it seems most definatly wrong. For one, on something like Playing with children, the npc says it raises the birds intellegence, while slighty lowering the birds physical condition. To me, that sounds like a -1 to str and end, while a +2 or+3 to rec and dis. Anyone else think this?
#385 Sep 16 2006 at 4:55 PM Rating: Decent
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My bird finally got another stat upgrade! It now has poor receptivity and discernment, substandard strength, and a bit deficient endurance. Woot! Just letting you guys know that today is a day to watch for stat upgrades.
#386 Sep 16 2006 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Im excited too about stat upgrades, but i thought id share that while reading these posts i laugh to myself everytime i see someone get all excited because his chocobo's strength is substandard!! lol Thats like... Yus!!! im a below average football player!!
#387 Sep 16 2006 at 9:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Yus!!! im a below average football player!!





This cracks me up too. Maybe if we regarded as a Special Olympics Challenge it would be easier to cheer. :D
#388 Sep 16 2006 at 10:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok so this is a lot of speculation and guess work but;

Perhaps the color of the bird is affected by 2 factors;

1. A sort of “genetic” code of the bird.
2. The care the bird gets.

In the case of #1 I’d expect to see the following;

Color of bird; 1st generation birds might not be able to be different colors… I know this comes as a shock but listen to the reason;

Yellow feathers with black tips, Yellow feathers with white tips, Yellow feathers ect.

SE might have coded the birds with something like a genetic code… much like animals that will display some traits or colors but not have one be dominate, it might be necessary to breed the birds with similar color tendencies to get a “pure” version of that color.

IE punit squares
Take as the color of black as a semi dominate is b with a yellow color as a Dominate trait of Y.

There are 2 things about semi-dominate (a trait that is neither recessive or dominate) traits to keep in mind;

1. Sometimes these traits are apparent

2. Sometimes these traits are mostly hidden.

A bY chochobo with proper nutrition and care should look like a yellow bird with black tips, at least using the assumption 1 abouve.

So in theory you have to cross it with another bY chochobo to have a chance of getting a black bird, the possible out come are as follows;

Generation X1; 1 out of 4 Yellow no tips. 2 out of 4 yellow w/black tips. 1 out of 4 will be black. Thus each breeding or matchmaking would have ¼ shot of making a black bird…

This assumes a partial dominance situation where as both traits are expressed but one is slightly repressed (as red hair does in humans sometimes).

The next natural question would be ok so what about crossing a green and black bird?

The answer is; it would depend on what color has more dominance… and the punit squares get a little bit convoluted in this case.

In the case of #2 you would expect the care of birds to influence the color.

I find it most likely it is a combination of both 1+2 but until we have a confirmed “pure breed” of one for colors the actual cause can be debated.

So let’s plug away at this;

What color/tips does your bird have (in CS and what does the trainer tell you)?

Has your bird shown a pure color?

What personality does it have?

What type of care are you giving? (i.e. I mix it up, my bird only takes walks, listens to music ect.)

Have you bred your bird? (obviously no ones is of age yet…) and what was the offspring like?

I want to call this The Chochobo GENOME project lol.
#389 Sep 16 2006 at 11:30 PM Rating: Decent
I think there is a chance of people getting a colored choco first generation, because of the models that are posted all thru this thread. There are no yellow w black tiped adults in any of them. I'm currently raising 2 chocos, my main is a female with no personality yellow with black tips in windy and my mule is a male yellow with white tips ill temperment good for military in sandy. Ive been feeding them the same foods focusing on str and end but my male is doing a lil better cause I started him a week or so after my female.

If your care plan is take walks 2 days then listen to music 2 days you just canceled out your stats back to where you started 4 days ago. Its almost evident you have to focus one plan.
#390 Sep 17 2006 at 1:28 AM Rating: Decent
I have managed to unlock some of the mistery surrounding SanD carrots. I have been raising either physical or mentals stats evenly since my choco hatched and Only recently began feeding it nothing but greens and SanD carrots and a couple days ago both its strength and endurance raised from poor to substandard, but yesterday I had it exibit itself and its strength dropped to poor but endurace didn't change. So I can now conclude that SanD carrots do affect endurance but do not affect strength. I have no idea what affect they may have on the mental traits yet, if any.

Edited, Sep 17th 2006 at 5:31am EDT by Sakbauer
#391 Sep 17 2006 at 1:49 AM Rating: Good
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Regarding the San d'Orian carrots...

Directly after being fed them (the next day), the third Chocobo I am involved in raising, became sensitive. The fourth became patient. The third listens to music and the fourth walks around town.

Both the first and second Chocobos are enigmatic, but they also have more Receptivity than Discernment. The first has stayed on that relatively steady diet of Carrots with occasional medicine after being exhibited to public (injured leg, but Discernment went up to Substandard) and playing with other chocobos (got a flu bug from one of them). The second has been getting Zegham Carrots for awhile now, but Receptivity is still higher (Substandard) and Discernment does not seem to be catching up yet (Poor, of course).

Don't quite know what that means with regards to the carrots, but those are the observations.

Bleh... 'mysteries'...

#392 Sep 17 2006 at 2:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Actually I'm a little concerned as to how much of a difference is there between our raised chocobos and the ones we rent. I mean just how Slow/Fast will our chocobos be? If you read the description of the chocos from jueno it says that they are breed and raised with speed and endurance as the main stat. So these chocobos should in theory have atleast "imppressive" or outstanding" rateing in these stats if not "First-class". Of course it also makes you wonder if you can breed a choco that can outrun and outlast the rental chocobo. Frankly I hope you can >_>
#393 Sep 17 2006 at 6:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Actually I'm a little concerned as to how much of a difference is there between our raised chocobos and the ones we rent. I mean just how Slow/Fast will our chocobos be? If you read the description of the chocos from jueno it says that they are breed and raised with speed and endurance as the main stat. So these chocobos should in theory have atleast "imppressive" or outstanding" rateing in these stats if not "First-class". Of course it also makes you wonder if you can breed a choco that can outrun and outlast the rental chocobo. Frankly I hope you can >_>


I looked at that before too, and I think SE is gonna ***** us over with slower chocobos (until we get chocos with higher stats), similar to how we were all hyped about the NPC and then we realized we could only use it once every like what 16 hours? Idk but SE has a good record of adding something cool, then adding something to just utterly make people pissed about it.

Edited, Sep 17th 2006 at 11:27am EDT by Salodin
#394 Sep 17 2006 at 10:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Salodin wrote:
The care plan chart on the begining is wrong I believe. I was studying the chart some more, and what the npc says, and for certain things, it seems most definatly wrong. For one, on something like Playing with children, the npc says it raises the birds intellegence, while slighty lowering the birds physical condition. To me, that sounds like a -1 to str and end, while a +2 or+3 to rec and dis. Anyone else think this?


the numbers dont represent actualy numbers. read the legend, they represent basic generalizations, 1 = small amount, 2 = medium, 3 = large. and its copied from the chart on SE's site.

Manwitch wrote:
I think there is a chance of people getting a colored choco first generation, because of the models that are posted all thru this thread. There are no yellow w black tiped adults in any of them. I'm currently raising 2 chocos, my main is a female with no personality yellow with black tips in windy and my mule is a male yellow with white tips ill temperment good for military in sandy. Ive been feeding them the same foods focusing on str and end but my male is doing a lil better cause I started him a week or so after my female.

If your care plan is take walks 2 days then listen to music 2 days you just canceled out your stats back to where you started 4 days ago. Its almost evident you have to focus one plan.


i personally doubt there will be any coloured chocos in this first generation. and because a young animal has different colours then when its an adult means nothing. looking at animals in real life, some young birds will have brown feathers to help them blend in with their environment, yet when they grow older they can have brilliant reds or blues or other various colours. thinking about it, no one has said that they have one of the 4th kind of adolescent on Feielle's picture, the one thats brown with yellow tips. that may be what your adolescent will look like if its actually a coloured one. all the mainly yellow ones with coloured tips are going to be yellow, just the colour represents race of chocobo, and which kinds to mate with for a chance at a coloured choco.

and using walk in town for 2 days, then listen to music for 2 days does not neccesarily cancle each other out. we dont know exact numerical values for how much they increase and decrease. most likely doing two days of walking and two days of listening would have the same overall effect as basic care for 4 days.
#395 Sep 17 2006 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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NekoJill wrote:
Actually I'm a little concerned as to how much of a difference is there between our raised chocobos and the ones we rent. I mean just how Slow/Fast will our chocobos be? If you read the description of the chocos from jueno it says that they are breed and raised with speed and endurance as the main stat. So these chocobos should in theory have atleast "imppressive" or outstanding" rateing in these stats if not "First-class". Of course it also makes you wonder if you can breed a choco that can outrun and outlast the rental chocobo. Frankly I hope you can >_>


I'm doubting we can, and even if we can, I don't think we'd go far beyond them.

The boy tells you that rental chocobos are raised with emphasis on leg power, i.e. STR. From the game perspective, Chocobos move at the speed of Flee. Nothing can make you move faster than Flee, that I know of. All Movement Speed+ gear seems to lose its effect when Flee is activated. No THF can Flee faster than another.

If no THF can move faster than Flee, and all Chocobos currently run at the speed of Flee, how likely are they to let us breed chocobos that are even faster than that? I hope we can do it, but I don't see it happening easily. I'm just going to be extremely joyful when someone proves this idea wrong...

As for outlasting... that's a different matter. Somehow I think they really are going to let us get that, but if you look carefully at it, raising a Chocobo with high Endurance must be pretty hard. There is no Care plan that provides a 'major' Endurance boost.
#396 Sep 17 2006 at 12:11 PM Rating: Good
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You're right about Endurance, which is why I'm happy to have a "very patient" chocobo, the type thats Endurance seems to rise easily. Mine's just rose to "A bit deficient," VERY happy about that! I bet her strength will rise soon too. ^^

However, if stats stop rising at adulthood, even my little Endurance prodigy likely won't get above average. We'll have to look to the next generation of chocobos to excel statwise.
#397 Sep 17 2006 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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stats dont stop growing once you reach adulthood, there are still 3 care plans that we dont get till adulthood, delivering messages, diggin for treasure, and acting in a play, and those three all have the biggest impact on stats. plus if u read the SE site, it says that u have to re-register your mountable chocobos to take advantage of further growth.
#398 Sep 17 2006 at 3:16 PM Rating: Good
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You're right. I hadn't thought of that...That's definitely a good thing.
#399 Sep 17 2006 at 3:35 PM Rating: Decent
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When it comes to colored Choco babies, the available colors have already shown up.
Black , Blue and of course Yellow.
Blackish tip feathers, Bluish /purplish (vid card/monitor?) , and Whitish tip feathers

Don't forget SE said they were only releasing two colors variations until a later update,( maybe the October update?) .
So just relax and stop speculating what color this generation of birds will be, its obvious.

Next time you you hatch a egg please keep track of

Warmth
Where obtained
city hatch in
Day traded to trainer
Day hatched
food plans
care plans

Maybe then we figure out how to get a colored Choco
#400 Sep 17 2006 at 3:42 PM Rating: Default
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pdragonfly wrote:
pdragonfly wrote:
pdragonfly wrote:
pdragonfly wrote:
Day 23

Took a walk in town - interested in everything.
fed 3 vomps
Raced - won again
Regular walk - rainy weather
Read story - happy bird
Watched over 4x's

checked on him:
Strenght and Endurance - substandard
still regards me as parent (creeps me out a bit)

have him on carrying packages for next couple of days.


Day 24
Same routine as above
Stats slight change from above: no longer a parent (yeah) - wants to be with me all the time.


Day 25
Noticed a change
I fed, raced him (still won) and also told him a story.
This time he did not have enough energy to watch over him (noticable change from being able to 4x on day 23)
weather in LaThein clear

I'm wondering now if being in the rain leaves him with more energy. Have to keep an eye on this.


Day 26
Same routine:
Carry packages 200 gil
Feed 3 vomp carrots
Regular walk - raining (made mistake of not raceing him first
Race others - still won
Told Story - happy bird

Out of energy, none left to watch over it.

No change in status


Day 27

Carry packages: 200 gil
Fed 3 Vomp carrots
Compete against others: LOST - first time!!
Regular walk: dry weather
Stats: he is now down to just liking me a lot!Watched over him: 2x
Told him story: happy chocobo


P.S. I WANT A WHITE CHOCOCO!!!
#401 Sep 17 2006 at 8:13 PM Rating: Good
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Does anyone know If I could buy Gregarious Worm from an NPC?
As far as I know, the answer is no. Try Brass Flowerpot + Wildgrass Seed + No crystal @ Feed.
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