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#1 Oct 15 2005 at 11:07 AM Rating: Good
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let's compare monsters:

Valkurm Dunes:
Hill Lizard lvl 15-18
Goblin Ambusher, Tinkerer and Butcher lvl 17-20
Snipper lvl 18-22
Damselfly lvl 20-23
Goblin Gambler, Leecher and Mugger lvl 22-25
Beach Pugil lvl 23-26
Bogy lvl 28-30

Buburimu Peninsula:
Sylvestre lvl 15-18
Goblin Ambusher, Tinkerer and Butcher lvl 17-20
Snipper lvl 18-23
Bull Dhalmel lvl 20-23
Goblin Gambler, Leecher and Mugger lvl 22-25
Shoal Pugil lvl 24-28
Bogy lvl 23-25


Hill Lizard vs Sylvestre
Sylvestres are mandragoras. The same mandragoras that people like to kill in the jungles. They dont have AoE attack and they dont petrify people. Easier to kill than lizards.

Valkurm Snippers vs Buburimu Snippers
Buburimu Snippers are 1 lvl higher but that shouldnt be a problem. That even helps because people can lvl off snippers longer.

Damselfly vs Bull Dhalmel
Bull Dhalmels hit hard but they dont have AoE attack. With 2 blink tanks they are easy. Even with WAR or PLD tank they are more managable than Damselflies

Beach Pugil vs Shoal Pugil
Shoal Pugils are higher lvl. That means people can stay there until lvl 20 before going to Jeuno. They can outpost warp from there to home city and they can start chocobo quest right away when they get to jeuno

Valkurm Bogy vs Buburimu Bogy
Buburimu Bogy are much lower lvl and they can actually be killed by xp party there. Even if they decided to run away from bogies they have high chance of survive unlike valkurm bogy.

So Buburimu Peninsula offer safer and better place to lvl up compared to valkurm dunes.
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#2 Oct 15 2005 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Time for a shocker?

PEOPLE DID.

But people are sheep.

#3 Oct 15 2005 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
I'm afraid to say both the Maze of Shakhrami and Buburimu were levelling zones. Then amny sites including this one told everyone that levelling is done in Vlakurm dunes, thats where everyone goes. So that's where everyone went, Bubu and Shakhrami are now ghost zones, no one there.

So if you want to party there you either need a co-operative useful group in Valkurm that will move or a set of player you know to level with. Other bonus with Bubu is you never get Marshaluke (how ever its spelt) rampaging round killing everyone in sight either.
#4 Oct 15 2005 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Because not a lot people seek there, so no one bother heading to bubu.
Unless a party is willing to go with you.

I always exp at bubu or korroloca if I have a static.
#5 Oct 15 2005 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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people are sheep.
#6 Oct 15 2005 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
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clintffxi wrote:
Time for a shocker?

PEOPLE DID.

But people are sheep.


I leveled War + Mnk there. I couldn't find a decent pt that would even go there when I was level DRK ;_;
#7 Oct 15 2005 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, don't forget that getting to Buburimu isn't exactly easy from where the majority of tanks come from; Sandy and Bastok. At least for new players anyway...
#8 Oct 15 2005 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
I did at one point, killing Zu's. Made for great exp. Camped at the outpost near the zone.

Also, the Penn is great for BSTs around level 21-22 - use the crawlers to kill goblins.
#9 Oct 15 2005 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
Yeah, I would say access is why most people don't level there. Valkurm is pretty accessible for sandy and bastok. Most people leveling 10-20 don't form parties in Jeuno and go to Bubu like in later levels. Also, getting to Bubu is pretty dangerous compared to Valk. Konschtat Highlands, La Theine Plateau, Ronafure, Gustaberg, those are all lowish level zones with avoidable aggro, and even if you do get aggro, you can usually make a run for the zone and get there.

However, in sauromague (sp?), those raptors and gobs will eat you alive if you get aggro.
#10 Oct 15 2005 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
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TsingtaoSeraph wrote:
I'm afraid to say both the Maze of Shakhrami and Buburimu were levelling zones.


Yeah, first mana burn parties were started there. 5 lvl 9 blm's, 1 voker. I remember when I played on midgardsormr almost 1 1/2 ago I took my blm from 9 to 15 in one morning with no major problems, outside of running from gobs.

I think more people meet up in Jeuno/major cities and go to those two places now instead of sitting there LFP
#11 Oct 15 2005 at 11:52 AM Rating: Decent
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DaimenKain wrote:
Yeah, I would say access is why most people don't level there. Valkurm is pretty accessible for sandy and bastok. Most people leveling 10-20 don't form parties in Jeuno and go to Bubu like in later levels. Also, getting to Bubu is pretty dangerous compared to Valk. Konschtat Highlands, La Theine Plateau, Ronafure, Gustaberg, those are all lowish level zones with avoidable aggro, and even if you do get aggro, you can usually make a run for the zone and get there.

However, in sauromague (sp?), those raptors and gobs will eat you alive if you get aggro.


But Jeuno > Windy > E. Saru > Tahrongi is pretty damn safe >.> It's easier to get there than to dune from one of the other major cities
#12 Oct 15 2005 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I would say access is why most people don't level there. Valkurm is pretty accessible for sandy and bastok. Most people leveling 10-20 don't form parties in Jeuno and go to Bubu like in later levels. Also, getting to Bubu is pretty dangerous compared to Valk. Konschtat Highlands, La Theine Plateau, Ronafure, Gustaberg, those are all lowish level zones with avoidable aggro, and even if you do get aggro, you can usually make a run for the zone and get there.

However, in sauromague (sp?), those raptors and gobs will eat you alive if you get aggro.


Or you can just take the boat from Selbina to Mhaura.
#13 Oct 15 2005 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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But Jeuno > Windy > E. Saru > Tahrongi is pretty damn safe >.> It's easier to get there than to dune from one of the other major cities


You really expect level 12-14 newbs with no subjob to walk to jeuno then walk all the way to bubrimu peninsula? It aint worth it. In all my time leveling in the maze, I only seen ONE bastokian that actually went to level there cause he heard about it.

The maze and bubu is geared more toward windurstians. Sandy and bastok have the dunes and bubu is for windy.
#14 Oct 15 2005 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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The reason is quite simple - because everyone else goes to the Dunes.

It doesn't matter if non-Dunes Zone X has superior exp mobs, superior campsites, less idiots, or whatever. If you're the only person a deserted zone, you're not going to get a party.

And in the miraculousl instance where you do somehow mananage to get a pickup party in an unorthodox zone, have fun trying to replace members who leave after 15-30 minutes. Remember it's a common occurrence at these low levels.

Compare that to the Dunes where party leaders have access to a veritable unemployment line of people LFG.

So unless you have a static party, or are absolutely damn sure that the hand-picked party you put together in Jeuno isn't going to disband after 15 minutes, the Dunes really is a better choice for most people.
#15 Oct 15 2005 at 12:08 PM Rating: Good
Parties prefer Valkurm Dunes because they've grown accustomed to it. It's easier when you have 1 zone at that level to find members, and many lower-level players don't consider throwing their seek flag up until they're either in the zone they want to exp. in or they're one zone away. Since Valkurm Dunes has become the de facto exp. party zone from 11 - 19, newer players who never had the opportunity to try Buburimu Peninsula look at it as a goblin-infested zone of death, and rarely venture past their comfort zone.

Which, in a very selfish way, was fine with me as BST, since it gave me a massive, competition-free zone to exp. in! Smiley: boozing
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#16 Oct 15 2005 at 12:39 PM Rating: Good
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If you can get a party to go there, it's just as good as VK. But seriously tho VK these days doesn't have that many players already... forming a full group takes time even at the popular VK. So good luck trying to get group in bubu..
#17 Oct 15 2005 at 5:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Fhqwghads the Tulip wrote:
Well, don't forget that getting to Buburimu isn't exactly easy from where the majority of tanks come from; Sandy and Bastok. At least for new players anyway...


{Hmmmm}. Its not as easy as it would be for them to party in Valkurm, fair enough. And I appreciate that there's no point fighting against the human urge to take the course of least resistance (why make life more difficult than it has to be, and for 2/3 of players Valkurm is "easier").

But while its easier for Sandorians and Bastokans to get to Valkurm I wouldn't say it was really not easy for them to get to Buburimu ... its no more difficult than it was for me as a new player to make my way from Windurst to Valkurm for the first time. If it was that difficult I'd still be a level 10 WHM with no sub.
#18 Oct 15 2005 at 6:16 PM Rating: Decent
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When I first started playing back early feb/late jan of 04 people did. Maze of Shakrami was always packed with parties and people would camp near the Mhuara gates in bubu or on the beaches.
Then came the PS2 player rush, after that people always wanted to home city => Valkurn dunes => Qufim => The jungle => Garbage citadel => Crawlers nest => Kuftal => Valley of Sorrows

there are ALOT of lvling alternatives. Like Korroloka tunnel or instead of the Jungle leveling in Battalia Downs off Orcs, instead of the tunnel (for lvl 50's) going to Ron P's tomb and killing bats. and you could just go directly to Altepa at 25 kill spiders and stay there until about 40.
#19 Oct 15 2005 at 7:11 PM Rating: Decent
Ah witch! Burn him!!!11one

I have never had the pleasure to camp in those places you mention. Might be awsome there though, nice change of scenery {Yes, Please}, I almost threw up when i went to Cape Terrigan(Dunes!! ahh!).

After i get to Jeuno i make a pt with level 19-20 people and go to the place with beetles, awsome camp chain 4 and 5 for 250-300exp. The newbie WHM said to me "Wow this is the best party ive ever been in".

Just need a alternative to the jungles! Here is a good post on alla i use as a reference to find camps.



http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=1096838303937842675&num=195



Have fun! Darn link wont show

Edited, Sat Oct 15 20:26:07 2005 by Tsutsui
#20 Oct 15 2005 at 7:24 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm from Windurst and would love to level up in Buburimu/Maze given the opportunity. I heard that people used to (I started in Nov '04), and I would like to try it for myself.
#21 Oct 15 2005 at 7:52 PM Rating: Decent
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#22 Oct 15 2005 at 8:09 PM Rating: Decent
Back in the release Shakrami was a hotspot (I remember the rare party in bubu but valkurm still seemed more popular) for levels 10-13ish, and it was wasy to zone since parties stayed at the front! Ahh the good old days of people trying new things, now its become here levels #-#, then here levels #-# in most cases. =/
#23 Oct 15 2005 at 8:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Tsutsui wrote:
Ah witch! Burn him!!!11one

I have never had the pleasure to camp in those places you mention. Might be awsome there though, nice change of scenery {Yes, Please}, I almost threw up when i went to Cape Terrigan(Dunes!! ahh!).

After i get to Jeuno i make a pt with level 19-20 people and go to the place with beetles, awsome camp chain 4 and 5 for 250-300exp. The newbie WHM said to me "Wow this is the best party ive ever been in".

Just need a alternative to the jungles! Here is a good post on alla i use as a reference to find camps.


Avoid the jungles using battilia Downs or skip over to Altepa and kill spiders. I never really used COP expansion so my knowledge is limited to the first two packs. Before Zilart came out there wasn't a Jungle to level in.
#24 Oct 15 2005 at 8:51 PM Rating: Good
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I would reiterate what a few others have said: People used to level in Buburimu (and the Maze of Shakhrami) all the time, but now everybody blindly goes to the Valkurm Dunes because that's what they're "supposed to do." You're right; these zones offer a lot of untapped (and frankly easy) experience points, particularly in the Maze of Shakhrami from levels 10 to 14-ish or so. And yes, the mobs in Buburimu are pretty much the exact same mobs that everybody else is fighting in Valkurm.

The Buburimu Peninsula also offer what is (in my opinion) one of the best camps in the game to level from 15 to 20: the Northeast corner of the Mighoya Dunes. Not only do you have access to (more or less) the same crabs and pugils that you get in Valkurm, and not only will you get them all to yourself, you also have a zoneline all of ten feet away. Things going south? Not a problem; just duck into the Labyrinth of Onzozo and heal up. There are potential Bogy issues that are mitigated by making sure that you have an even remotely competent puller.

Some of my fondest FFXI memories are those old newbie worm parties in the Maze and Zu/Sylvestre parties at the outpost in Buburimu shortly after the NA release. I don't know if that fondness stems from the places or from the general newness of the game and freshness of the experience, but every time I level a new job I always try to convinces parties to come to these places. Usually, I fail miserably, and that's a shame.
#25 Oct 15 2005 at 9:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I vividly remember the days of leveling in the Maze and Bub. Man, those places were packed.

Being from Windy, the access isn't that good, but for Bastok and Sandy they are, so you naturally you'll get more people. I think that, combined with the fact that there are more connected zones and more places to set your homepoint (since one nation or another has control) was what attracted me.
#26 Oct 15 2005 at 10:08 PM Rating: Decent
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When levelling MNK I never touched the dunes, or anything on that side of the world. The maze was my first experience with XP chains and whatnot, it was awesome back then. I miss the golden days back at the winter of the US PC launch. So much fun then.
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