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#27 Oct 14 2005 at 3:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, so i did a System Restore for October 3rd, a week before i got the effects of the virus.
Now, its saying that POL doesnt have the data required to start Play online. Should i try reinstalling?


Now that you've done that download this file and say yes, you want to import it to the registry. This is my reg key with my settings so I recommend you run the FFconfig tool after importing this.

http://www.probetreff.com/playonlineus.reg

Right Click the link and go to save as. Save somewhere.
Go to where you saved it and double click it. Say yes.




Edited, Fri Oct 14 16:39:30 2005 by SkyCatcher
#28 Oct 14 2005 at 3:50 PM Rating: Good
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This may sound a bit extreme, but it should work.

I had the same issue and was only able to correct it by reformating my HD.

Since the laptop is only a month old, hopefully you do not have too much data stored on the HD.

I bought a zip drive and backed up all my data files and music files. I left the anime video files because they were the source of some the viruses and worms I had on my PC.

After I pulled the data and music files off, I reformated my HD and reloaded all the software, including POL and FFXI. If you bought your laptop from a legit place, you should have an OS boot disk and application disks along will all the other junk you get.

Besure to include a Anti-virus application and do not connect to the net until AFTER you have installed and have anti-virus running.

I am not a IT person, or real smart when it comes to PC's, but this was the only method that worked for me. I am sure they're much smarter people on this forum when it comes to PC repairs, but this is what worked for me.

Just passing on my experience.

#29 Oct 14 2005 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
good luck getting back online hope you get your problem solved.:)
#30REDACTED, Posted: Oct 14 2005 at 3:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Guys guys guys. Stop bashing IE!! Ie is a wonderfull tool. There is no program in the world that can download firefox better!
#31 Oct 14 2005 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
sry, i didnt read most of the replies but here goes...

first make sure pol and ffxi updates have downloaded and install(or just pol updates if you cant get that far)

as you said your comp is new i'll presume its up2date with equip specs. so your graphics card might be intergrated and it might not. IF IT HAS HARDWARE TNL THEN ITS FINE.


You didnt say what the virus was that was picked up by avg, it is possible and probable that it isnt a virus at all just malware(which isnt a virus but some anti -v's pick it up) in which case it will not afect pol and ffxi. Malware can and will be sorted by spybot s&d or adaware se personal (both free).

so what now...

Sounds very much like a software driver, either a video driver or sound driver but i would go with video first. Check pol website as they have info laptop drivers specifically. It will be one of those silly things you can fix in two mins once you have found out what the *&^% it is (sry for swearing).

Failing that you said your laptop was new so restore to factory defaults (supplied with your laptop)then upate your drivers and direct x as directed from pol.com. Failing that check which graphics chipset you are using and visit the manufacturers(or your laptops) website for updating drivers etc.

99% of problems with pol and ffxi are graphic related


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IE works just fine. For those of you that want an alternative, go nuts, get Firefox or another alternative. But don't complain that Adware and Spyware are caused by IE, because it's *********

The biggest enemy you have to face with Spyware/Adware is yourself. Be intelligent about what you download, open, expose and you should have few problems.

Don't make Malware into a browser war, use what you like to use. I'm so sick of people saying stupid crap that equates to: "OMFG NUKE IE AND DOWNLOAD FIREFOX NOW!! IT R TEH ONLY BROWSER YOU CAN USE!"


I couldn't agree more. Because you have a firewall, anti virus etc etc doesnt mean you are infalable. If you go on sites that are... dodgy then your software will say its fine... YOU have gone on them. If it's ok by you its ok by them sorta thing

ps I still use firefox tho for alla adds
#32 Oct 14 2005 at 4:35 PM Rating: Good
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As long as we've got a tech support thread on the main forum, let me copy and paste my similar problem.


Any time I'm outside of my Mog House on any of my characters, the game crashes and I get a Windows error saying Playonline Viewer encountered an error and needed to shut down.

If I log on and I'm not in my Mog House, I last about 3-5 seconds before this error kicks me off. If I log onto one of my mules I can stay in the Mog House with no problems indeffinetly. I tried taking one of my mules outside and the same error poped up and kicked me.

Can anyone help me fix this problem?
#33 Oct 14 2005 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
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Ok, so i did a System Restore for October 3rd, a week before i got the effects of the virus.
Now, its saying that POL doesnt have the data required to start Play online. Should i try reinstalling?


I'm gonna say yes.. it sounds like some of your files either got corrupted or wiped due to the virus or system restore that you did.

Also, did you try downloading and running the benchmark on your new laptop to be sure that the game would run properly before installing it?

As mentioned previously, if you're trying to play the game with a video card that isn't compatible, you're gonna have problems.
#34REDACTED, Posted: Oct 14 2005 at 5:07 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Carefull guys, better double wrap.
#35 Oct 14 2005 at 5:44 PM Rating: Decent
Hrm... error at select character screen on Monday afternoon? Hate to say it, but the "virus" probably wasn't the issue at all. If you use the windower, some of the plugins caused this exact problem. All you would have had to do is disable the plugins and you'd be A-ok!
#36 Oct 14 2005 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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ok, i remember having a similar problem once upon a time when i first tried installing ffxi on my laptop, turned out i had the graphics set too high, so probably the first thing to do is go check your graphics settings and set them to ablsolute minimum. 640x480 should be fine for both foreground and background for now, if that works then gradually turn them up till you get to the resolution you want or untill the game runs too slowly/ crashes again and set it below that point. Also make sure bump mapping and weather effects are turned off.
As for your situation with ffxi not recognizing its data, check under add/remove programs to see if it has reapeared since the system restore, if it has uninstall it then reinstall ffxi, if it isnt there then just reinstall ffxi.

if the above doesnt fix it i recomend calling tech support, you can work with the basic helpers most likely but if what they suggest doesnt work or they give you attitude, ask for a senior tech, they are the ones that actually know what they are doing, the basic helpers just have a troubleshooting sheet to go over but dont know the inner workings of the game. also, if one of the basic helpers tells you to disable your antivirus, immidiately ask for a senior tech, disabling antivirus in in no way necissary to fix any problem in the game and at this point the probem is beyond what the basics can help you with.

Regaurding the argument between IE and Firefox, Firefox is the beter choice without a doubt, however that doesnt mean you should remove IE altogether, IE is reqired for Windows updates, if you dont have it you cant download the service packs among other things. Windows updates however is the only thing IE should be used for, Use Firefox for everything else. IE is garbage and even with the latest security patches can and will let spyware, adware, & viruses into your system, i know this from personal experience so i dont want to see any counter posts from people who havent actually tried this and dont know any better. Im not going to say that firefox is the only browser out there, there are others (ex. Opera), but Firefox is the best, it is updated more frequently, is open source, and best of all is free. In the end the choice is yours as to what browser you use, all i can do is warn you of the dangers and make my best recomendation.

As for the antivirus issue, avg is fine. True it isnt the best, there are better choices such as norton or zone alarm (my personal choice) but avg does work and will protect you sufficiently for what you appear to do.

The last thing i want to address is the comment made by someone that viruses/spyware/adware and the like cant get into your system as long as you are careful about what you download. In short, this is wrong... these things can enter your system just by visiting a website, you dont have to click anything or download anything the site will just load it on your system. This is one of the reasons i recomendd firefox, a great deal of these malcodes are targeted towards coding flaws in IE, not all of them are targeted at IE but most are. Firefox is built by a community of programers and as such these issues get adderssed much sooner than with other browsers, even Opera is better than IE at doing this. In any case, the point is spyware/adware/viruses can get on your system no matter what you do, all you can do is try to protect youself as best you can by getting browsers that attempt to block incusions and antivirus that can handle what does get through.

I hope this is helpfull to you and that you may rejoin us in ffxi soon, goodbye and good luck!
#37REDACTED, Posted: Oct 14 2005 at 9:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Sad but true. Go buy a anti-virus program for 20 bucks or so and have it auto scan and remove, if that doesn't work, format your computer. Don't come on here saying your a girl for extra special help.
#38 Oct 14 2005 at 9:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Its never too good to announce you're a girl on the internet.. but..yeah.. as someone said before me, system restore should work lol =)


System restore has never worked sadly. It's the biggest cockup microsoft has produced. It hides a copy of all viruses (if you have any disable system restore before running and cleaning) to reinstate them at a later date, it leaves your registry bugged and bloated and rarely offers long term stability.

If you havent disabled system restore already then do so and run another scan (preferably with a more reputable AV engine like Symantec). http://security.symantec.com free online scanner.
#39 Oct 14 2005 at 9:31 PM Rating: Good
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As long as we've got a tech support thread on the main forum, let me copy and paste my similar problem.


Any time I'm outside of my Mog House on any of my characters, the game crashes and I get a Windows error saying Playonline Viewer encountered an error and needed to shut down.

If I log on and I'm not in my Mog House, I last about 3-5 seconds before this error kicks me off. If I log onto one of my mules I can stay in the Mog House with no problems indeffinetly. I tried taking one of my mules outside and the same error poped up and kicked me.

Can anyone help me fix this problem?


This was dicused in another topic, although it wasn't the same instance it was a similar error. It comes down to a few things.

1.) Over time Files randomly corrupt, disk sectors go bad, you turn your computer off from the buttion on your case, not the start>shutdown way. Indexes get messed up. That is why it is important to Defrag and scan your HDD for errors.

All defraging does is takes the files that are similar and puts them near eachother on the HDD. This way your CPU works less to find the required files for a program or proccess, they are all together. When you install stuff and delete stuff your HDD doesn't put them in a nice little order when you install them. Same with Deleteing the files, they are never gone, unless you have a program that will change the file to all 0's. The file is still there, just scrambeled a bit. Eventualy your HDD will overwrite some or all of the file when space is needed.

So some of your FFXI files have been corupt, usualy not a big deal, depending on how much has been damaged. I'm not a know it all about computers so, this is my general understanding, some things might be wrong. But as long as the file outline is still there you should be able to fix it, files almost have what you would call a shell. The shell has some info on what the file is and what goes where, so as long as the "shell" is not corrupted you can still recover the file. And there are various recovery programs that can recover corrupt files. But some just get f'ed up.

FFXI will shut down if a .dat file is missing, damaged and such. Is you mule and main same race, in the same moghouse, exiting the same way? It could be that you are somehow missing another races filesand when you exit the house FFXI cant load the races model, or maybe its an object.

My best bet would be to either
A.) reinstall FFXIand do tedious updates.
B.) If you have a friend that has FFXI have him copy his FFXI folder put it on a DVD, or zip drive w/e and then copy his files over yours. Of course you dont want to copy the Macros and SS section. this will fix the problem if it was a .dat file error.
C.) Get a log program that can read the memory, start the program, make the error, stop the program and search through the log for erors. You should get a big log, but you might be able to nearrow it down by telling it to log only FFXI.

If none of the above worked call support and maybe they have some error logs that they can decipher. If you can give me more info that might help. Also sorry if there are any misspelings.
#40 Oct 14 2005 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
It sounds to me that you did not uninstall FFXI, you just deleated the Folder. So your laptop still recoginzed FFXI as an installed program. I would do as a previous poster sugested and remove Playonline's registry entries. If you did infact just deleate the folder that is a problem. If you have a friend with FFXI installed copy their FFXI folder to DVD or CDor zip, and then just place it into where you had the playonline and FFXI folders installed.

That should fix the problem, if you did deleate the folder. Your computer still mght have the virus also, even though you did a system restore.

A free online virus scanner is TrendMicros house call, i believe its called, now it is not the best but it is verry good. Also with Spybot S&D, there is an imbededprogram called Tea Time, it will notify you when a program is trying to change the registry. It allows you to block or allow registry changes. This can be very helpfull because most spywhere and virus make reqistry entries, to keeptrack of files that it needs to operate. Some stuff just makes Api calls, API calles are normal, they are commands.
#41 Oct 14 2005 at 9:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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My advice would be to close your legs and be more fastidious when it comes to clientele.

And, most importantly, stop with the stupid ******* faces, and the playing of the "girl card" on the internet.



Wow your parents must be so proud of you... what a fine example of the human race you are.

The cockroachs in your bedroom, must bow their heads in shame when you post on allakhazam.

I pity you.


#42 Oct 14 2005 at 10:48 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the help Pigkiller. I reinstalled FFXI and everything seems to be working fine now. Yeah the updates where annoying, but not as annoying as not being able to play ^^
#43 Oct 15 2005 at 2:03 AM Rating: Decent
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oh god o.o i learned something new today, bad microft bad! i shall now disable sys restore!
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#44 Oct 15 2005 at 9:40 AM Rating: Default
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Regaurding the argument between IE and Firefox, Firefox is the beter choice without a doubt, however that doesnt mean you should remove IE altogether, IE is reqired for Windows updates, if you dont have it you cant download the service packs among other things. Windows updates however is the only thing IE should be used for, Use Firefox for everything else. IE is garbage and even with the latest security patches can and will let spyware, adware, & viruses into your system, i know this from personal experience so i dont want to see any counter posts from people who havent actually tried this and dont know any better.


I use just IE daily, many times daily. My number of virus = 0, number of spyware = 0, adware = 0, so from personal experience, IE is as solid as a rock, a large rock. I run no spyware blocking programmes either, just a firewall on my router and my PC and norton av professional, thats it.

I also use Firefox on Suse X86_64, but if I were to check that one, I'm pretty sure I'd find no spyware on that, but thats only because I havent stuck it on the net yet (cant find 64bit drivers).

However, from your post, it seems apparent you like to travel sites where you can get spyware/adware/virus infections, so really you should modify your browsing habits, a poor workman blames his tools.

On topic. Ya, your buggered really, grab your disc that came with your box, wipe everything off your hard drive, reinstall Windows. Before you connect to the internet (important that bit) slap on a firewall and anti virus software, then connect to windowsupdate.microsoft.com and get all your updates, then the latest drivers for your hardware.

Though its probably much easier to find someone who knows what they are doing. And ya, turn system restore off, waste of space ;)
#45 Oct 15 2005 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
So um... what happened?
#46 Oct 15 2005 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm not so sure but some anti-virus softwares will identify Pol.exe and some other FFXI files as virus/trojans. Chances are AVG deleted one of the Pol files.

Here is what I'd do:
1. Try to uninstall FFXI and POL (a clean uninstall would be best).
2. Reinstall POL then run it before installing FFXI (less updates).
2a. If it goes well install FFXI and try to play.
2b. If it does not then POL has a problem.
3. If you can't play then you can try to boot to Safe Mode and do a system restore (it should remove your installation) and try to run on the old files again.
4. If you can't play cause a file is missing then your best bet will be contacting POL support and tell them your problem. However, I think their respond would be format your hardrive and reinstall Windows and everything.
#47 Oct 15 2005 at 5:29 PM Rating: Decent
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mecorx wrote:
oh god o.o i learned something new today, bad microft bad! i shall now disable sys restore!


The advice from Microsoft's knowledge base if you have to remove a virus is to disable system restore, remove the virus using your antivirus software (or the executable you can usually download from an AV vendor) then take a new system restore snapshot after your system is clear and re-enable system restore.

Sys restore is like a copy of your entire system, so if it has viruses the virus will get copied too. Removing it altogether may come back to bite you on the a$$ if your system suffers a failure further down the line. The best course of action is to buy an antivirus product that has realtime protection for viruses, that way they'll be detected almost straight away. The later symantec corporate av versions have some spyware/adware protection (called "enhanced threat detection", from version 9) so it might be possible to get realtime adware detection in some of the latest versions ... haven't looked myself.

HTH

Edited, Sat Oct 15 18:37:49 2005 by vwilsonuk
#48 Oct 15 2005 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Norton Ghost > System Restore. No messy registry, no bugs, no problems, takes all of 3 minutes (from a non working system to be 100% up and running) and can also work independent of windows (thats a big bonus right there).

Most mainboard CDs come with a copy of ghost 2003 (floppy version) or find a friend who does. Believe me its worth it.

Edited, Sat Oct 15 19:52:27 2005 by Reaperttk
#49 Oct 16 2005 at 11:38 PM Rating: Default
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Ok, i'm glad that you haven't gotten any viruses/adware/spyware on your system, however all that means is that you have been either very lucky or don't use the net very much. As far as your comment:

"so really you should modify your browsing habits, a poor workman blames his tools"

I do not visit the websites that you seem to be implying, are you aware how many completely legitamate sites there are that load up your system with adware & spyware just to find out your browsing habits so they can target you with their advertisements? no?, didn't think so. These things can be picked up anywhere, hell, you can pick them up on this site occasionally, its not intentionaly comming from here but it can and in fact did happen just recently. You don't have any way of knowing if a site will put spyware on your system untill you scan later and find it there all nestled into your nice working system. As for blaming my tools, IE is garbage, it has been proven time and time again, i don't blame IE in itself but the company that made it, microsoft. all their software is unstable and notoriously easy to hack through, i don't blame them because i don't know any better, i blame them because i do know. Perhaps it would do some good to actually research the topic before badmouthing people who are more experienced, hell... you might even learn something, fancy that.
#50REDACTED, Posted: Oct 17 2005 at 12:23 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) /troll mode off
#51 Oct 17 2005 at 1:31 AM Rating: Decent
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/troll mode off

No seriously, i had norton, avg>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Norton. Norton is basicly a useless program for people without a clue about computers (people who dont know what a folder is, cant write html, dont know the diffrence between a browser and a "window", and say wtf when they see a smiley). No seriously, get avg, it will kill all of youre sh*tty viruses.

/troll mode on

Even while alla pisses me the f*ck off, i want to hurt people who come up with this dogsh*t software where it hurts, since i hate them more than you... Beings.


::examines the troll switch:: But... that's not right... this troll converter burnt out months ago... I guess Kojiami is just an idiot afterall, and not a troll... >.>
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