Petition : we want a Nomad Moogle in SELBINAFollow

If you have to ask that, then you probably wouldn't be able to go there. You only get access to Tavnazian Safehold/Lufaise Meadows/Miseraux Coast after you've completed the three Proms.

If you do have access, to get to Lufaise Meadows from Valkrum Dunes, there's a "Swirling Vortex" in a cave at the SE part of Siren Sands. The Vortex will teleport you to Lufaise Meadows. Once there Tavnazian Safehold is a relatively short walk from there, but if you are wandering through there as a low level you'll have to avoid aggro (which isn't all that difficult).

No need .. the PL will see to it.

/sigh

Sure. I leveled my first job all the way to 20 before leaving the dunes (and then I went straight to jeuno). Sub job on the dunes is optional. If they finish the quest at 18 and only have a level 1 sub, thats perfectly fine.

Nomad moogles all over would make things FAR too easy. But I think Selby could definitely have a chocobo stable (town style) so you can ride it at 15 if you already have a license.

Yeah, and DRG isn't broke. Please, stating that the game has been functional isn't a defense, as it's clearly been functional before with major portions broken and still broken. I mean, if you really believed in this BS why don't you petition SE to stop all updates because obviously the game is functioning currently and doesn't need them. That's just not good logic.

I agree with the other guy, everybody whines about how it makes people learn thing when the thing they've learned is something whine about, PLers. Instead the dunes are the pit of the world, forcing a 20 min or so run on you to get anywhere since you're less than 20, or you risk losing your pt due to a death, and don't give me any BS about not learning to die as even 75 with years of experience under their belt can still die in xp parties. It is the main reason PLer's have become common, and it's now hard to find a party without a PL in the dunes. So, instead of learning the game, newbies instead learn to rely on PL's. Yet, adding a convience to curb this (no need to worry about those trains, or getting a quick raise anymore), you want to continue encouraging it?

I disagree.

I have had plenty of good party experiences at those levels outside of the dunes. There are other viable places to level that aren't the dunes. It's not nostalgia or luck, they were just good parties. I have had good parties in the dunes too.

It -sounds- like you're saying the Dunes are the best place to level at that level... any other place with a party getting good exp is pure luck. Maybe that's not how you intended or I am wrong, which is cool.

I think, though, that it would be nice if parties did consider these options and spread out more. Valkurm Dunes can be PACKED sometimes, and some parties competing for mobs would have a better time in the Maze or Bubu.

It's like Kazham being overcrowded, yet no one goes to Batallia downs. I have been in several good parties in Batallia downs that pulled awesome exp. I've also been in crappy ones. Same with the jungle.

But like... at that level people want to seek party where they are going to get picked up immediately and be fighting in less than 10 seconds. Sometimes this isn't the best case. Later on in levels it isn't gonna work like that.

I don't like the 'I have a high level so I shouldn't have to deal with this again' excuse. The job you're leveling isn't high, people need to stop thinking that just because they feel it is redundent that these challenges should be taken away from our new players. If you've done it a million times before, it should be easy for you to do it again.

I'm kind of torn on the idea of a moogle being in Selbina/Mhaura. On one hand it would be a nice convenience. I'm not just talking about changing jobs, mind you. What if you run out of food and you would like to stay in the dunes til you hit 20? Or arrows? Or something? I know I often make the dunes my home if I am leveling a job from whatever-20 until I complete that goal. It would be nice to ask my friend to get what I ran out of something send it to me, instead of asking him to trek to my party and deliver it to me.

On the other hand, it opens up a few easy ways out of dealing with problems they're gonna have to deal with at some point or another. Teamwork amongst parties in the area can kill minor trains, you don't necessarily need Xawesomedudex to change his job to level 75 DRK to beat everything up for you.

I think it could be a positive either way. :)

I would like access to my mog safe at least, i can easily fill up 55 spaces with gear 10-20.

[quote: By: TheSecretOfHorutoto]

No thanks.

It's a nice challenge to go back home before heading out to Jeuno. It also gives people a chance to upgrade gear before they turn up in Jeuno wearing the same armor from lv10.




IM talking here about HIGHER levels who doesnt want to bother with the come'n'go to level a 3rd sub job and such.... It would be avaible only by obtaining something you get like lvl 60+... Not for newbies.

I think Rank 10's should get Jet Ski's! Make it a 5 minute ride to Jeuno from Selbina or Mhuara. Really, as it is now there is no benefit from going from rank 6 to 10. No perks. And don't say the mission money. The crystals you have to turn in cost about the same as the reward.

Or even better: Once you complete Rank 10 in the 3 cities they could give you a Jeuno ring. Level 1, rare/ex, 1 charge a day, warp to Jeuno.

Edited, Thu Oct 13 16:03:13 2005 by Spungy

Unless I'm horribly mistaken, there is an outpost Valkurm Dunes which allows you to just use the outpost teleporting services. And if you're from Windurst? Do like I did, party in Buburimu Peninsula instead, there's an outpost there too.

This sounds like a good compromise, and a good way to balance out the dunes and bubu.

I have white mage levelled a good ways, and it'd be nice to be able to turn into white mage and clear the zone to selbina or mhuara so people didn't lose so much time that they'd prefer not to be trapped in town when they could be levelling or questing.

I haven't seen anyone mention this, but it seems to be an easy solution to the having to run back and forth, and also something that Square could reasonably implement without changing the dynamic of low levels too much. For the New Year's Event this year, it was possible to obtain Stables teleport items from each of the three starter cities. Each item is level 15 and has limited charges that teleport you to one of the cities. Here is the San d'Orian one: Kingdom Stables Collar

Square has already made some event teleport items (the outpost warp rings) accessable via spending Conquest Points, so it seems reasonable that they could do that with these items as well. Or, perhaps they could be bought from your home country's chocobo stables when you obtain a certain rank, or something like that.

I got all three for the specific purpose of leveling in the Dunes--I can set my homepoint there so as not to inconvenience my party, but I can get home quick, and warp back if I want to with a CP warp scroll. I'm unlikely to warp home just to raise someone since I can only teleport once every 24 hours, though.

This seems to be a pretty well balanced thing that Square could do. At any rate, if these are ever offered as a prize for an event again, I *highly* recommend picking them up and using them wisely. Never let it be said SE never gives us anything good for events!

Edited, Fri Oct 14 00:23:11 2005 by Kuporeid