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#1 Jun 11 2004 at 3:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok The Elemental ores are all obtainable through 3 ways. FIRST: is BCNM 60. Simply put, win the battle and you may get one.

The next 2 are much better methods for the poor player, however.

SECOND: CHOCOBO DIGGING

You have to get your chocobo digging skil;l up to a considferable level to do this (yes chocobo digging is like a guild with 10 skill lvls)
visit www.cannotlinkto/ffxi and click the chocobo digging section. It lists what can be dug there.

LAST and BEST BY FAR is <b> GARDENING </b>
the recipie is as follows.

You will need a PORCELIN POT + TREE SAPLING (note this is NOT cutting but sapling). Simply plant the seed in the porcelin pot in the mog house (preferably on dark day since that is the seeds element) and then add 2 crystals of the desired elementak ore color (IE: fire crystals for fire ore and wind crystals for wind ore) on the day of the crystal element. Then harvest on the elemental day of the ore you are going for and you will hopefully have your elemental ore. Btw these ALL sell for over 200K (so much for Leaping Lizzy hunting).

The downside of this method is as folows. You are not guarenteed an ore EVERY time. There IS a chance of getting lesser results (as with al;l gardening). And the biggie is that it takes approximately a REAL LIFE MONTH to grow these so don't do only one. Have a few going at once so that if one pot fails maybe another will succeed.

I have PERSONALLY grown a water/fire/ice/wind/earth ore and have yet to attempt the light/dark/lightning

so this DOES work. I now have 8 million gil from this with 6 mules over the past 3 months so i don't need the secret anymore. Plainly put it WORKS...albeit a little slow and not 100%. DO IT it is your road to riches :).
#2 Jun 11 2004 at 3:13 AM Rating: Default
ive read some stuff on adaman ore being able to be dug up by chocos in meriphataud mountains, ive heard you need a fairly high skill lv for it though and its pretty rare. But if its as rare as ifrits, then by all means those volcanic gases can go pork each other because im never heading to ifrits again.
#3 Jun 11 2004 at 3:26 AM Rating: Good
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thios is for elemental ore not adaman (wehich can also be dug up though). Yes chocobo digging nets adaman ore too check the web link :)
#4 Jun 11 2004 at 4:25 AM Rating: Default
You forgot to mention the time between planting and and harvesting.
Want to share that with us too...

Think it was around 40 days.
Not to mention you need to check it each day or each 2-3 days.
Not all people play FFXI all day, simply because they have a normal life to.
Also holidayseason starts around now so people go on vacation for a week or more and when they come back the plant is death..
#5 Jun 11 2004 at 4:28 AM Rating: Default
so don't plant it
wtf are you ******** about when he gives you a good recipe to make some money????
#6 Jun 11 2004 at 6:26 AM Rating: Default
NOW the big question is gonna be where to sell these 200K ores at? I had a hell of a time just trying to sell off a couple of Dodge Earrings at the Sandy AH (Seraph) and eventaully had to price drop them a tad where I ended up selling them at 30K less for the pair than what I had bought them for. Otherwise they weren't gonna move anywhere except back into my Drop Box as unsold goods.

PLEASE tell me there's some eager Galka NPC over at the Metalworks who would take them off my hands for a pretty gil.

Edited, Fri Jun 11 07:27:46 2004 by MHirtes
#7 Jun 11 2004 at 6:52 AM Rating: Decent
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There is this place, it is called "Jeuno", where the high level richer-than-everyone Japanese crafters hang out. They buy things. Expensive things. Try selling there.

So I just went and looked up the price of Dark Ore in Jeuno. 280k per. Funny thing is one player, Akuryo, has bought the last 10. And he did so on the same day. Do the math.

Edited, Fri Jun 11 07:58:33 2004 by Tnadis
#8 Jun 11 2004 at 7:00 AM Rating: Decent
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secret?
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=24&mid=1083340414766321776&num=171
#9 Jun 11 2004 at 7:27 AM Rating: Good
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Cuttings/Sapplings take a little more then two weeks to grow. This is not news, this has been discussed in the crafting forum for almost two months now.
#10 Jun 11 2004 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Like Azna, I have been using this method to make my money. To add some information, you do not need any specific pot as I have been doing this quite successfully with all three of the basic pots. I grow my own saplings from cuttings. This takes 16-17 days and then I turn around and grow the saplings. This takes 22-23 days. The growth time has been very consistant so I wanted to share that.
You will *rarely* get Elemental Ore. At best you can expect 2 pieces from each 10 plantings, though 1 is more common. I have yet to get a harvest having none. You can grow any color of ore following the same basic plan that Azna covered. Dark and light is a bit more tricky though. Good luck!
#11 Jun 11 2004 at 6:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Nakur

I did mention it takes about a real life month to grow, read the post. And if you don't wanna do this your welcome not to but its the best way to make money that I've found so far. I'm just sharing it with those less fortunate :).

And yes the success rate is only about 20% so like I said grow a bunch its STILL loadsa profit even if ya only get 2 out of 10 attempts.

Edited, Fri Jun 11 19:22:26 2004 by Azna
#12 Jun 11 2004 at 8:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Excellent post. The last time I attempted advanced gardening I planted Tree Cuttings and after about a month got 2 Mistletoes (5k each). Not worth it, but I do know that advanced gardening can be a GREAT way to make money!
#13 Jun 11 2004 at 9:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Ores can be quite risky to do solely because you're investing a lot of money into something and will require a whole month (each and everyday) to 'possibly' grow an ore.

Another alternative is from cuttings to saplings in which is very profitable if you do it in LARGE quantities as it only requires 2 weeks of times and a buttload of cuttings. The starting cost can be quite expensive but having at least 100k every 2 weeks is very nice. Even if you buy the stack of cuttings from jeuno AH, you will still guarantee at least 200% profit (I haven't done this but a friend of mine said sapling rate is 100% and there's chances of more than one sapling growing in one plant...he planted 7 and got i think 12+ back...his profit was I think 86k).

I mite start doing this once I get my money avaibility back at 200ish k since I just spent 450+k on Dark Staff.

Also...another risk into this is the AH economy. they're very profitable now but by a few weeks or so, the AH will be flooded w/ ores. I've noticed a LOT more people having ores in their bazaars lately and the AH is becoming flooded w/ ores...20 dark ores the last time I saw it. This is how I was able to afford my dark staff). Basically, ore price will go down tremendously in a month or two which will reduce ur profit margin. I'm not saying not to pursue this...but look at general trend of ore stocks in AH and guess whether there would be more coming and if it's actually worth it. I think it's really sweet but...whenever I need something, I just farm non stop and get around 300k a week by doing it.
#14 Jun 11 2004 at 11:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Does anyone have a formula for growing tree saplings that you can share? Or point me to a site?

I know of the failure rates of growing ore, and in Shiva server, I've seen quite a huge number of elemental ores being sold at the AH. Thought selling saplings from cuttings would be more profitable =)

Would appreciate any help here, thanks!
#15 Jun 11 2004 at 11:42 PM Rating: Decent
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However, you'll find in most servers both the price of ores and saplings have dropped to the point where both Sapling -> Ore and Cutting -> Sapling isn't quite as alluring as before. On Ramuh, stack of Cuttings was 60k, saplings~ 110 or 100k, and ores were (depending on which) 150-300k.

Just sometihng to keep in mind.
#16 Jun 12 2004 at 12:26 AM Rating: Default
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http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=24&mid=1083875808546378978&num=33

Go to the gardening section in the FIRST post. This news is a bit old to me however good of you to spread it around as it still can't get massed by very greed hog. Seeing as the success rate is low the dedication is high and it costs money to get it going anywhere fast.

That and most greed hogs can't stand 1 month of just checking them and keeping up with days to plant/feed/harvest.

Oh yeah, and this was the first post that was ever made in these forums about sapplings and elemental ores.

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=24&mid=1079113906734425311&num=111



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However, you'll find in most servers both the price of ores and saplings have dropped to the point where both Sapling -> Ore and Cutting -> Sapling isn't quite as alluring as before. On Ramuh, stack of Cuttings was 60k, saplings~ 110 or 100k, and ores were (depending on which) 150-300k.

Just sometihng to keep in mind


Ya but if even 1 of those 12 sapplings turns out a elemental ore you have made your money back on the whole stack, and a profit of anywhere from 40k-200k.

Edited, Sat Jun 12 01:30:52 2004 by BobHopeKilledMe
#17 Jun 12 2004 at 2:21 AM Rating: Good
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Yes, everyone rush out and flood the market with Ore.

I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but this is what'll happen. The reason people *were* making millions on this is because only a few people new about it. By the time most of us found out, the price had already plumetted to 50% of what it had been. With even more people trying this, the price will go down even further.

This isn't a bad thing, per se. I like cheap supplies as much as the next person. However, please don't think you can make millions of gil by doing this (in the short run anyway).

Personally, I find a scheme that makes money. I tell no one except my LS. Eventually, someone finds out about it and starts doing it as well. Then a few people do this and all the sudden the price drops and I go elsewhere for money. I'm not complaining, its just the way the game works.

I did this with Lizards Skins. A stack was going for 7k, but none were ever on sale. I worked at it for about a month and drove the price up to 11k. Suddenly, everyone was chasing after Lizards skins. The price dropped to 8k, and I went on to more profitable things.

I guess the point is this: By the time you hear about the latest get rich quick method, its probably too late. You should go out and find your own.
#18 Jun 12 2004 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Thank you for your post. I'm trying to grow my own tree saplings now. ^-^ I'll post back in a few weeks with my results!
#19 Jun 12 2004 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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/sigh

There is soo much information I dont know which is up or down now... Can someone hold my hand through this trying proccess?

I planted 9 TreeSaps on Darksday (cause I heard saps are Dark and I should plant on the day strong to the seed.) I used mostly Brass pots cause someone said they are good also 2 porclian.

So now I just check them everyday... when it asks me to feed it a crystal I should...
A. Check what day it is i.e. Iceday Feed it ICE Crystals?
b. Feed it the opposite crystal i.e it's watersday feed it Fire cyrstals?
c. Wait till the day strong to the seed Sap=dark then feed Light?
d. none of the above.

Any advice would be appriciated. Sorry for the n00b questions I'm just saturaded with too much information to sift through.
#20 Jun 12 2004 at 2:14 PM Rating: Decent
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SabastianSeraph, there are actually different recipes to grow elemental ores, but I have yet to try some of them.

The most common method is, feed dark/dark on darksday and harvest on darksday.

BUT

The ratio of ores you'll get : number of pots you have is like

>3:20 T_T

maybe you would like to learn more from this thread by octoberasian

While some players believe in 'Neutralising' the plant nourishment in order for better ore yields.'Neutralising'

I think the best way is to try each known method out one by one.

Edited, Sat Jun 12 15:18:52 2004 by eugypt
#21 Jun 13 2004 at 6:18 PM Rating: Decent
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The most common method is, feed dark/dark on darksday and harvest on darksday.

BUT

The ratio of ores you'll get : number of pots you have is like

>3:20 T_T

maybe you would like to learn more from this thread by octoberasian

While some players believe in 'Neutralising' the plant nourishment in order for better ore yields.'Neutralising'

I think the best way is to try each known method out one by one.
Thanks for the links I was actually looking for the one of them ^_^ I dont want to over element it I want to semi balance them so I will avoid the dar/dark on darksday. I'll check the ah and feed it the 2 crystals on those corrasponding days... Thanks!
#22 Jun 13 2004 at 6:27 PM Rating: Decent
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orangefoodie wrote:
However, you'll find in most servers both the price of ores and saplings have dropped to the point where both Sapling -> Ore and Cutting -> Sapling isn't quite as alluring as before. On Ramuh, stack of Cuttings was 60k, saplings~ 110 or 100k, and ores were (depending on which) 150-300k.

Just sometihng to keep in mind.


/wave. just a little note: Ramuh seems to be about 10-20% lower in high-end price margins than most other servers from what ive observed...
#23 Jun 13 2004 at 6:39 PM Rating: Default
yeah it takes 42 days exactly to grow it and u can feed it 2 times i think harvest on full moon and you almost always get the ore
#24 Jun 14 2004 at 9:13 AM Rating: Decent
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meh if we're comparing prices...

Cuttings x12 = 44-45k
Saplings x12 = 100k

Serpah
#25 Jun 14 2004 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm a gardener, but even with an extra character that just gardens I'm still hard put to take care of my plants.

If I'm in the middle of a quest that takes 2 hrs, I could miss my proper feeding day or even harvest (and I have).

I've known about these plantings yet haven't done it because of the time sensitivity. Its also hard to be tying up money for a month when I may need it for new armor.

That being said I have 14 empty pots right now.

I'm telling you this because I don't think you are in great danger of prices slipping so far. If they do it will only be temporarily, especially with summer here and peeps not getting online as much (well at least me lol).
#26 Jun 15 2004 at 11:32 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks a lot man!
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