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I would love to see a photograph of you playing and your computer/ desk set ups :)
have you ever gotten laid? ever?
Master ketrel wrote:
have you ever gotten laid? ever?
Just because people play alot dosn't mean that they don't get laid.
However, someone suggesting that someone has never been laid, dose suggest that this person is not getting laid enough.
Edited, Jun 2nd 2007 12:02pm by sleepynight
I wish I had the brain power to control 6 at once; First thing I would do is finish CoP.
A better way to do this would be to use one keyboard and mouse, and have all 5 screens lined up. I do this with 3 characters, one on each of my LCD's using a program called synergy2 which is a KM over ethernet (Keyboard + Mouse) on 3 separate computers each connected to it's own monitor.
To elaborate on this, your keyboard and mouse will be able to move between all 6 computer screens, so you can effectively switch characters by moving your mouse over 2 screens and clicking. This allows you to keep the synchronization between your characters a little better, not having to *switch* between any physical hardware. To those that think this might not be as efficient as 1 person controlling one character, your partially right, but my response time is about 1 second off between dualboxing and playing regular, I've even been able to do BCNM's like this etc.
Edited, Jun 2nd 2007 11:57am by Toioiz
To elaborate on this, your keyboard and mouse will be able to move between all 6 computer screens, so you can effectively switch characters by moving your mouse over 2 screens and clicking. This allows you to keep the synchronization between your characters a little better, not having to *switch* between any physical hardware. To those that think this might not be as efficient as 1 person controlling one character, your partially right, but my response time is about 1 second off between dualboxing and playing regular, I've even been able to do BCNM's like this etc.
Edited, Jun 2nd 2007 11:57am by Toioiz
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Stop being so @#%^ing obnoxious. I just don't like people. I'd gladly pay for 6 accounts a month to play by myself than end up having to turn to people with attitudes such as yourself for help with anything.
Decent people are hard to find these days, it seems.
Decent people are hard to find these days, it seems.
then why even play an mmo at all? FFXI sucks otherwise besides the social interaction..there are much better, much CHEAPER alternatives to people who really cant stand people enough to not only solo an mmo, but to spend absurd amounts of money doing so. Take that 70 bucks a month and catch up on the many, many offline rpgs youve been neglecting while you trudge through a game designed to bring people together.
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I think Neispace's comments were in poor taste. Seriously, how in the hell could the OP expect to profit from this venture after 4 years? You say that someone who seems to do what RMT do is somehow "RMTish".
Let's analyze a few things here. For 4 years the OP has been paying for SIX accounts. To make it easy, that's $13 a month x 6. That's roughly $78 a month (not counting mules). That's $936 a year. That makes a grand total of $3744 dollars spent by the OP to do this over the span of 4 years.
Why on Earth would he take 4 years to build up 6 accounts only to sell them? And WHY would he update the thread with his progress? Don't you think he'd want to be cranking out more than just 6 characters in 4 years? Like maybe....6 a month? THAT is RMTish.
Let's analyze a few things here. For 4 years the OP has been paying for SIX accounts. To make it easy, that's $13 a month x 6. That's roughly $78 a month (not counting mules). That's $936 a year. That makes a grand total of $3744 dollars spent by the OP to do this over the span of 4 years.
Why on Earth would he take 4 years to build up 6 accounts only to sell them? And WHY would he update the thread with his progress? Don't you think he'd want to be cranking out more than just 6 characters in 4 years? Like maybe....6 a month? THAT is RMTish.
Selling 6 characters at 75 with a capped craft probably could generate a good amount of income. My comments may be in poor taste but at least im assuming the guy is rational and has a reason for doing so. Its a heck of a lot better than assuming the OP is so self-punishing he is wasting time, money, and effort replaying a game he clearly has already achieved a high level of status and fame in.
I mean, why bother even leveling a craft? Is there any special need to relevel crafts on other characters when its pretty blatant the OP is already accomplished and rich enough to powerlevel crafts not on one, but 6 characters?
People ask why on earth someone would do it, and jump on the 'OMG he must be RMT' bandwagon. I two-box, and it's for the fun of it, having gotten to the point where playing one character can be kinda dull. ;p I'd be screwed without /follow though.
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then why even play an mmo at all? FFXI sucks otherwise besides the social interaction..there are much better, much CHEAPER alternatives to people who really cant stand people enough to not only solo an mmo, but to spend absurd amounts of money doing so.
I think he just doesn't like the lvl-grind aspect of the game very much, so he made a party on his own so he could lvl where and when he wants without having to wait for other players (something I can understand ;p).
And what is the problem with lvling crafts? We have another person in our linkshell who has a set of crafting mules which are almost as good as the 6 chars of Chain. The only difference here is that Chain doesn't use mules but other accounts and plays them too.
Btw, I just checked the prices for accounts on IGE. I don't think chain could get more than $500 for any account and with all his mules and the playing time (and the cost for his PC-setup) he would not make any money with them. At least not enough to be worthwile after 4 years work :)
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then why even play an mmo at all? FFXI sucks otherwise besides the social interaction..there are much better, much CHEAPER alternatives to people who really cant stand people enough to not only solo an mmo, but to spend absurd amounts of money doing so. Take that 70 bucks a month and catch up on the many, many offline rpgs youve been neglecting while you trudge through a game designed to bring people together.
I get along with people just fine... people who aren't like you're making yourself out to be.
Playing MMOs and multiboxing to avoid social interaction != Playing MMOs and multiboxing to avoid interaction with people who have no sense of decency, etiquette, or aren't capable of thinking beyond themselves.
hehe 4 years and this thread is still alive
Man, your assessment is right down the money lol. yes, it is true i can chain 4 to chain 5, but chain 6 is very hard for me--infact i cant recall a time when I did lol. I think over time people develop more skills and they get used to it more and more and eventually its just like typing on a single keyboard.
noooooo.... haha I don't like calculating how much it's cost me! haha
ty ty /bow /bow :D /respect :D
the truth is--and this is a well known fact among ffxi players--that after ffxi, single player games become kind of dull and pointless. the social interaction and feedback you get from playing with actual ppl can't be replaced by an AI or atleast not yet. But after ffxi im not playing another mmorpg, this is it for me :)
I think the real argument is if multi-boxing is morally "okay" to do. I've felt guilty ever since. I know the unfair advantage that I have over regular players, the sheer volume of things I can do by myself is just too intimidating. that's why i've always given back to other players and helped them--especially my friends in game. that's how i've justified it to God, that's how i've justified it to my members, that's how i've justified it to myself. but the truth is, the unfair advantage is morally wrong.. but i can't quit now :p not after all this :p lol.
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You wont be five or sixboxing any fight more demanding than an average exp party. Heck, the op wont even be able to get a good haste chain going, or be able to even manage a link juggling between multiple characters wired up to use 3 or 4 common macroes.
Man, your assessment is right down the money lol. yes, it is true i can chain 4 to chain 5, but chain 6 is very hard for me--infact i cant recall a time when I did lol. I think over time people develop more skills and they get used to it more and more and eventually its just like typing on a single keyboard.
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Let's analyze a few things here. For 4 years the OP has been paying for SIX accounts. To make it easy, that's $13 a month x 6. That's roughly $78 a month (not counting mules). That's $936 a year. That makes a grand total of $3744 dollars spent by the OP to do this over the span of 4 years.
noooooo.... haha I don't like calculating how much it's cost me! haha
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In this guys case he's making it his 74.95 a month so he doesn't have to deal with other retards. I don't have the money to do this, but I can at least respect him doing it. It's his money afterall, and given that I remember when he did this first post ages ago and the updates, so I trust that he's not just doing a bunch of RMT / character selling stuff.
Grats on the progress. Very impressive.
Grats on the progress. Very impressive.
ty ty /bow /bow :D /respect :D
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then why even play an mmo at all? FFXI sucks otherwise besides the social interaction..there are much better, much CHEAPER alternatives to people who really cant stand people enough to not only solo an mmo, but to spend absurd amounts of money doing so. Take that 70 bucks a month and catch up on the many, many offline rpgs youve been neglecting while you trudge through a game designed to bring people together.
the truth is--and this is a well known fact among ffxi players--that after ffxi, single player games become kind of dull and pointless. the social interaction and feedback you get from playing with actual ppl can't be replaced by an AI or atleast not yet. But after ffxi im not playing another mmorpg, this is it for me :)
I think the real argument is if multi-boxing is morally "okay" to do. I've felt guilty ever since. I know the unfair advantage that I have over regular players, the sheer volume of things I can do by myself is just too intimidating. that's why i've always given back to other players and helped them--especially my friends in game. that's how i've justified it to God, that's how i've justified it to my members, that's how i've justified it to myself. but the truth is, the unfair advantage is morally wrong.. but i can't quit now :p not after all this :p lol.
I admit I play 2 accounts, and I getting very use to it. I'm getting quite good at it. But 6 Account is very impressive, I could never pull that off. Hats off to you for this. I want to ask you something though, do you do mission and quest? I see you have all your Artifacts quest done for all your Characters. I find the most Challenging part isn't fighting IT monster in your party, but doing mission and quest. Certain one need Sneak and Invisible, with Invisible on you cannot auto follow? So when you cast invisible, How can you MOVE 6 people all at once while having invisible on? Since you can't do /follow anymore. Not to mention you have to watch when sneak, and invisible went off, and there part you need to drop invisible as well.
TKTDIVISION wrote:
I admit I play 2 accounts, and I getting very use to it. I'm getting quite good at it. But 6 Account is very impressive, I could never pull that off. Hats off to you for this. I want to ask you something though, do you do mission and quest? I see you have all your Artifacts quest done for all your Characters. I find the most Challenging part isn't fighting IT monster in your party, but doing mission and quest. Certain one need Sneak and Invisible, with Invisible on you cannot auto follow? So when you cast invisible, How can you MOVE 6 people all at once while having invisible on? Since you can't do /follow anymore. Not to mention you have to watch when sneak, and invisible went off, and there part you need to drop invisible as well.
You can still set the character on autorun, target an invisible character and lock target. You'll be able to follow someone who is invisible.
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Certain one need Sneak and Invisible, with Invisible on you cannot auto follow? So when you cast invisible, How can you MOVE 6 people all at once while having invisible on? Since you can't do /follow anymore. Not to mention you have to watch when sneak, and invisible went off, and there part you need to drop invisible as well.
You can auto-follow with invisible on, it's just not the standard way. You can target-lock an invisible character and then auto-run. It will have the exact same effect as /follow.
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A better way to do this would be to use one keyboard and mouse, and have all 5 screens lined up. I do this with 3 characters, one on each of my LCD's using a program called synergy2 which is a KM over ethernet (Keyboard + Mouse) on 3 separate computers each connected to it's own monitor.
Wow, this program sounds very awesome. I 2box a lot since I have a high lvl brd on my 2nd account for twinking and duo'ing with my ninja. I've gotten pretty good at it, but it's still a pain. Definately gonna give this a try, thanks!
Very impressive achievement! If you have the cash, though, I would make a couple of suggestions... maybe replace your monitors with flat-panels, and your non-main keyboard with compact keyboards. That would give you more desk space, and allow you to switch between computers a lot faster. I'm sure you know better than me, though, since you've been doing this for years!
I only ever had two "mains", for a month, when I bought the PS2 Hard Drive so I could play on both my PC and PS2. I played the free month with another character, just for fun, then canceled. Of course, I had to switch between PS2 and PC, so I didn't exactly party with myself. Mostly, I used my free alternate character to help me move inventory around ^^;;
I really can't imagine the complexity of controlling that many characters at once. I imagine you spent a lot of time walking into walls until you got used to it :)
I only ever had two "mains", for a month, when I bought the PS2 Hard Drive so I could play on both my PC and PS2. I played the free month with another character, just for fun, then canceled. Of course, I had to switch between PS2 and PC, so I didn't exactly party with myself. Mostly, I used my free alternate character to help me move inventory around ^^;;
I really can't imagine the complexity of controlling that many characters at once. I imagine you spent a lot of time walking into walls until you got used to it :)
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I think the real argument is if multi-boxing is morally "okay" to do. I've felt guilty ever since. I know the unfair advantage that I have over regular players, the sheer volume of things I can do by myself is just too intimidating.
It isnt something to feel bad about. Its not your fault that this type of things is one of the hugest flaws in the "force people to group" mentality. Double boxing in FF11 means you literaly can solo just about as well as you can solo in most other MMOs.
Maybe some day down the road all people will think when they see a game that "forces people to group" all they will think is that they need to run accouple accounts so they can solo.. Or for that matter emediatly get mad at the people who made the game because they are greedy to force us to all buy multiple accounts so we can play the game "properly".. hehe (IE like WOW)
suffice it to say..
I kind of hope that FF11 is both my first and last MMO for the rest of my life so this point is moot. hehe
Edited, Jun 3rd 2007 4:14am by thorazinekizzez
Edited, Jun 3rd 2007 4:15am by thorazinekizzez
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You can auto-follow with invisible on, it's just not the standard way. You can target-lock an invisible character and then auto-run. It will have the exact same effect as /follow.
Wow, I did not know this. I would just think with auto run and lock on target, it would jun run into a wall. I'm going to give this a try because nothing more annoy me when can't follow with invisible on. For Chainspell, I know you can level fast with this method and don't have to worry about invite, but you can never do Dynamis, End game stuff, etc, task that required an alliance. I can't imagine how you can control the white mage to heal a whole alliance, buff, de-buff, bard that sing song, and tanker keeping hate. Even if you control 1 white mage and another character, I would find it impossible already since white mage have to heal and keep an eyes on everyone. Easy with 6, but not easy with 12 - 20 people.
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