I am completely baffled by the Karma System HELP!Follow

It's the email that did it. I saved it as a .txt straight out of Outlook.

I'm not doing any editing on that post.

Don't worry, they can't actually do too much harm. It's mainly Lady rating people down, and just one person won't hurt if enough people rate up.

Meabh, the big problem with what happened was not only were people trying to "check" his rating, but it was in such an extreme way. Like I said, one of his posts was just about to get filtered because people were throwing out "Awfuls", apparently, as though if they didn't, he'd become a Guru.

What sort of respectable, and rational person with rating capability goes to the extreme of tossing out "Awful" just to try and keep in check someone's karma rating?

I actually took the time and did the math, off the top of my head on what the first few posts were rated when I made the comment, before people began to rate some of the posts up to counter this ...

4.06
2.28
1.66
3.00
3.00
3.00

... that averages a 2.83333333 ... you get the idea.

Please. Anyone. Someone tell me how that is "right" or "justified?"

If anyone feels they would like to go back and find some archived pages from pre-rating up of several posts in that thread to help Ace out, feel free to do so.

Anyway ... I just really don't see the point behind why that happened. If you have a bone to pick about the karma system, pick it with the administrators and the people who made the karma system. Don't go and make examples of what you will do to "enforce" this system by swooping in and rating down someone for having a great, informative, or funny first post.

Believe me, you'll do a lot better by going to the source and making a case and giving ways to fix the system, compared to just abusing the system and saying you're doing it for the sake of keeping things "balanced."

Edit: Jeez, I take my time making this post, and now it's some half dozen below the one I was quoting. I'm pretty slow tonight, aren't I? :-(

Edit #2: Hello, my name is "Verbose," and I am an Edit-aholic. -_- I just want to add ... I know everyone says "Don't worry about karma," "It's not a big deal" ... however, whether it is important or not, using an integrated part of a forum is still a responsibility. Important or not, people usually do care about their karma.

Edited, Thu May 6 00:52:06 2004 by ResidentLune

ResidentLune, please look at Lady's post. You'll see that we have been discussing the karma system with the admins for awhile now. It's still going on, and they're just as frustrated with the way things are turning out as we are. Yes, I acted rashly and I'm the first to admit it. I publicly apologized to Ace as I felt it the right thing to do. I don't think the admins are to blame for the situation, nor do I think Lady is either. Are the ratings down fair? No. They've been done, however, and sometimes with good intentions. We're all caught up in the karma problem and right now, the best thing we could do is stop rating people before thinking seriously about why we want to rate them up or down. And, yes, I'm at the top of the list of people who need to do this.

Thank you, Ace, for being understanding about the predicament. I look forward to your next post here. ^_^

/M

That's not the case at all, and like I stated above, I wrote my first comment poorly.

I hope you stay. The post was great and I'm sorry I derailed it during the "karma discussion". That was meant to be a simple hijack, but it went on a little too long and people stopped coming back.

Meabh is a regular in our exiled group as well, and comes here about as often as me. She stumbled across our OMG!!! thread at 10 posts, with a karma rating of 3.00, right after a person with the screen name "RafikiMonkey" started positive karma-bombing us throughout the whole thread.



When you've got a thread with 3000 posts in it, and everyone's getting rate hikes, it annoys a lot of the people who worked their asses off posting guides and useful information to get their precious titles. I worked hard to become a Sage, but Rafiki just made it look like a sham.

The point is, we all took a lot of criticism over this, and it's left quite a few of us bitter, and trying not to let things get out of hand again.

I apologize for the guinea pig thing as Lune called it, but I do think that the reason was fair enough to those of us that have taken crap from this forum.

Don't leave because of that though.

If you want to see the other side of this fiasco, (and I was frustrated there for a while), click on User's Journal above.

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All banning is done at the discretion of the admins. From the looks of the Asylum, they're pretty cool and understanding people. ^_^

Besides, this is just a forum.
/shrug

Administrators

So that's your excuse for hijacking the forum and passing judgement on who "deserves" to be a sage? How can you claim to even care about helping out this forum when all you've done is turn it into an object for your own self-edification? You think that you're some kind of Internet vigilante charged with protecting the forum from...what? New users? Respecting people who aren't you? Grow up, turn off your computer, and get some perspective before you try to interact with human beings again.

Which separates them from you quite nicely.

Wow. I make a mistake and suddenly I'm evil? Hmm.

w00t! Evil party with Ace as the guest of honor! s for everyone!
/twirls a sound maker

Sorry, but I think the ran off with the cake. ^_^;

It could be worse.

I'll post it, though I doubt Asako will take the time to read it before spouting a comeback.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/ubbnew/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=018062

You didn't make a mistake. A mistake is something that was accidental...you obviously did what you did quite purposefully. If anything, you could argue that you regret it, but regret is meaningless. Murderers often have remorse, but it doesn't make them any less guilty. And to bring back an unpopular analogy, *****, regardless of if they were simply 'following orders', still went on trial.

WHOA. Stop the levity.

WTF. Comparing a bad judgement call in a freaking online forum that has nothing to do with real life to murder?!?!



That's it, y'all, I've done my best to correct my mistake and lighten this thread up a bit. Goodnight!