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UBERLINK.. And the Samoth Factor..Follow

#52 May 05 2004 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Sometimes I wonder why I turn filters off...

Kwijiboe wrote:
His post is ridiculous and is vindictive without cause.
Kwijiboe, judging by the responses of some of your LS members here, including the leader, I would say he did have cause to post what he posted. Even if you don't behave the way those guys do, by remaining in the linkshell and associating with them, you are condoning their actions.

Remember, after World War II, all the officers who followed Hitler were convicted of war crimes even though they were just 'following orders.'

Defending your Linkshell on these forums, regardless of how well written your post was, you're no better than the worst of your LS.

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Samus taught us that a girl doesn't need brains to be successful. Brains are giant, evil and vulnerable to missiles.
#53 May 05 2004 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
Looks like the ****** section of the Counter-Strike community made its way to FFXI. Goody. More 12 year olds with temper tantrums.

Edited, Wed May 5 20:25:01 2004 by MrShoes
#54 May 05 2004 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
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I will give you this, Kwijiboe. Your defense is the only one from Uberlink I've seen that did'nt cause my brain to hurt from poor grammar. When reading Mxer's,I thought my computer was just messing up because someone somehow managed to use a font I did'nt have.
If you are in fact, a decent person, then distance yourself from Uberlink. Unfair or not, they have a terrible rep with everyone aside from themselves, and your comrades are'nt doing anything to help it.
#55 May 05 2004 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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As seen there are 2 sides to the story, and it's hard to tell who's in the right.


However, just as a note for those who haven't been to zvahl, it is a very very dangerous place. Not necessarily because of the monsters themselves, but because on the walkways, where mobs will agro from different levels. This means that it someone gets just a big too close to the edge, you will in about 3 minutes have a train of 30 demons coming to say hi. They will not move right up the walkway. Instead they run down the halls and then up, bringing all their friends.

So I can understand his requests for the others to stay back, though I would certainly have explained why before going in.
#56 May 05 2004 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
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I can understand the whole "barking orders" thing, because sometimes bad things do happen when people go too far in without taking the proper precautions. As for the Warp II deal, that was just dirty, Mxer, you may be X lv, but you're a cocky punk. I can only say this to you, "May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your pubic regions." Superthug, you're twice as annoying as Mxer, you should be castrated so as to further prevent your family tree from the current trend of not branching. Kwiji, you seem like an intelligent person, I have yet to figure out why you would associate your name with the likes of those two...But, to each their own.
#57 May 05 2004 at 1:15 PM Rating: Decent
*Wow, this is pretty sad and pathetic that it has to come to this...I have never EVER posted anything on a message board before b/c I just have better and more important things to do with my time, but I found it necessary to create an account and do so in this case. First and foremost,!!!!THIS IS A GAME!!!!GROW THE !@#$ UP!!!!
*When a person chooses to participate in a online game, they will most certanitly encounter situations that ARE to their liking, and that ARE NOT to their liking. I have known people that have been warped out of parties before, and of course were not happy, but they didn't run to a message board,at like 5 in the morning, and cry about it, b/c 1). They have a life, and 2). They are more mature than that, and are not still sucking on their mama's tits like some people apparently still are.
*I have partied once or twice before with Samoth, and I hate to say it, but in both experiences, Samoth was a total inconsiderate player. Samoth wanted everything to be done his way(mind you he was not the leader in both parties)and he was giving selfish orders that would obviously benefit only his own. Now, this is not to say that Samoth is a bad person, he may very well be a totaly kickass cool guy in real life.
*I am not in Uberlink, nor have I ever experienced any bad situations with them. However, I do know that some of them were kind enough to STOP what they were doing, escape themselves out of the castle, and help us out that night. As soon as we got there, Samoth started with the smartass remarks. Samoth, if you were not satisfied with what was going on, then you should have just left and not wasted anyone else's time. But you chose to stay and that was also fine. I, and others, warned you that if you kept your relentles negative comments up, I would be forced to warp you out. After I saw your second smartass remark, >>> I <<< decided (being the leader of the party) that if you said one more unpleasant thing, I would be forced to warp you. Soon after this warning, I got a tell from a friend who !!!WAS NOT!!!with us in that party, like I already told you many many times Samoth. He was saying that you were sending his friend (someone in the party) tells and arguing with them. I didn't think twice, but maybe I probably should have, and I warped you out. After returning to Jeuno, I began talking to you and apolgized for having to do what I did and gave you my reasons for doing so.
*I didn't know that you had past animosity with members in Uberlink, and that is not my problem. The whole reason why I am writing this is because I feel that it was absolutly unecessary for you to come on an extremly public window,like this, and start naming names and belittling players like you did. Obviously, you lack ethic's,a conscious, and a brain to write what you did.
*I am truly sorry if I offended anyone, I just hate to involve myself in this sort or feeble drama that highschools kids bicker about. I also do not like to share information like this with people I do not even know. This is a matter that should have been kept between ONLY the people who experienced it. However, Samoth decided to take the initiative and make it public, so now I am just following through.
*I am just 1 person giving my opinion on what I experienced that night, you can make your own decisions on believing me or not. Honestly, I really dont care. I just go on the game to have fun, and yea stupid s@#$ happens to me also, but I get over it.

Edited, Wed May 5 14:21:23 2004 by Lera
#58 May 05 2004 at 1:21 PM Rating: Default
thank you sarii or lera for making this look good =)


your da best ^^




i hate idiots who makes everything a big deal out of everything
#59 May 05 2004 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
Lera... if it really is you... you are still a TOOL for letting someone TELL you to warp someone when against their will.

Oh and Mxerz, I read your posts in the other thead... wow... you have.. wow... some serious power-issues... (and yes, I am a stupid lvl 19 nOOb without 7eet gear so I know you don't care what I say).. but when you quit playing this game, none of the stuff you have earned will go with you (including your dark and ice staves)... and you will still be someone who has some serious issues.

Oh, and pretty coincidental that Mxers posts... what 6 minutes after Lera (first post ever)... hmmm.... I think I smell a bull...
#60 May 05 2004 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey Kelvy...I like your quote.....I saw Radiohead at the Coachella show this weekend^^ Unreal show.
#61 May 05 2004 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Samoth, if you were not satisfied with what was going on, then you should have just left and not wasted anyone else's time


Sarii... Samoth helped form that group. He helped recruit people for it. I would go as far as to say how can you even imagine telling someone after this.

The whole fact that Samoth sent me a tell wondering if he should get out of the PT anyways to avoid having to deal with them is remarkable. It shows that the reputation was bad enough that he could see trouble on this level coming to him from 20 minutes away. Forsight like this isn't luck, its experience... experience of dealing with people like that.

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Wow, this is pretty sad and pathetic that it has to come to this...I have never EVER posted anything on a message board before b/c I just have better and more important things to do with my time,

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public window,like this, and start naming names and belittling players like you did

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I just hate to involve myself in this sort or feeble drama


You know, that is a whole lot of not wanting to come here and talk on this "low and degrading" of a post for you to be here talking. You where half the problem in that group.

You get mad at people being belittled yet you come here to complain that Samoth was being a smartass. I was also a bystander as you said, and the whole comment of "Maybe if they just explained themselves" was in no way selfish, rude, or arrogant. When their is total chaos going in the group as to what is happening, asking "why" is a very valid reason.

I think though, for the most part in the discussion of the castle incident and not just the UL part, you are a very overlooked problem with this.

You are the one that invited the alliance, not needing it, and not informing a single person in the PT. No one ever mentioned once that they would be their or that you would be inviting them.

Not only that, but you where incapable of leading your party and let UL start barking orders, hence, the chaos problem of no one doing what was supposed to be done.

Third, you let Mxer lie to you enough that would warp2 someone out right before their AF completion without a second thought. You where just brown nosing your way up to UL for some reason. Did you ask Samoth about the fake tells Mxer was saying he did? No, you just warped him anyways. Even if he was telling off a person, its hardly enough to strip away someone's AF from them. That was your choice to do the warp. Its almost sickening to see their is someone that would do this, almost like jangling a dogs food bowl before slamming them into a cage. I honestly am disgusted with you as a person more then any of the people of UL.


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Oh, and pretty coincidental that Mxers posts... what 6 minutes after Lera (first post ever)... hmmm.... I think I smell a bull...

WHo knows, but I don't think Mxer would be caple of puncuation like that.
#62 May 05 2004 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
It's usually a good idea to explain your intentions if you wish for people to follow them. I'm not saying this to disrespect you or your help one bit. It's one thing to get mad at someone after you've explained something. It's another to fly off the handle seemingly randomly. To make all players better you could have explained the demon situation to the alliance. Instead you played the "I know better than you so just listen to me" routine. For all anybody knows you could be a 12 year old with an ego problem as much as you could be a 24 year old who just keeps to himself. I do not blame you for the actions of the leader of another party either but we all know how /t politics goes as well. Bottom line is, if you know something say it. It makes everybody in the game better when they know something. It only serves to make a gap when you expect people to follow orders blindly. Again, this is only a post in respects to rationality and in no way do I condemn you for trying to help a fellow player.
#63 May 05 2004 at 4:48 PM Rating: Default
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Brookie wrote:

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There you have it, brookie calling herself an ***.

Brookie, stop chop shopping what everyone says and come up with your own valid argument. It's getting quite annoying to see a sentence taken out of someone's *whole* argument and turned around in meaning. Just get up off that chair, leave the thread alone, and find something else to do, you've posted on the thread, 10+ times correcting and flaming, let the people remained focused on what is said. Because all I'm hearing is "WOW MXER IS DUMB, WOW SUPERTHUG..!" and that has little to do what's going on here. Let Samoth post follow ups, not you, you're just chopping up what other people say.

#64 May 05 2004 at 4:48 PM Rating: Decent
I like this. :)

There's well known phenomenon that occurs everytimes you put somebody on the web - They are changed by the anonymity - not necessary in a bad or huge way, but it changes us all. A lot of people become jerks because they can get away with. Penny Arcade did a good strip on this phenomenon, which could practically be called 'The uberlink syndrome' from I'm gathering in those posts ( http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-03-19 )

In most internet media, you don't need to be afraid of retribution.

Except... this doesn't quite work in MMORPG. Where in a chatroom or forum or what not, the worse that can happen is people not liking you, in a MMORPG, having a bad reputation can actually hurt you.

So lo and behold, Uberlink is getting what it deserves - a bad reputation. And they are just reeling at the idea that their asinine behavior can't continue free of consequence.

It's beautiful really.





Edited, Wed May 5 18:14:35 2004 by Tyrandor
#65 May 05 2004 at 5:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Brookie, stop chop shopping what everyone says and come up with your own valid argument.


If you follow along with the messages posted in this forum, you will know for yourself what Sarii said and should not be affected "if" I was misquoting her.

I have sat here and delt with twisted versions of every story possible to on the event of the Castle trip, and have repeatedly told you and a few others members of UL to read the original post as they are completely twisting any sense inititally implied.


What I quoted where the exact lines from Sarii's post that claim that posting on message boards was immature and a waste of time. I was not chopping this up as I was not taking any meaning from this. I was simply showing her negatives to the situation.

The basic outcome of what I'm saying is this:
If you think its a waste of time posting on the likes of this BBS then why are you doing so.
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