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#1 Mar 17 2004 at 10:23 AM Rating: Good
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well after seeing that chrono trigger **** in game scene (lol) i'm reminded of a thread i wanted to throw out

So what is your faverite non FF but square made game and add a why if you like, (and this yechnically isn't off topic since square made FF11 :P) and yes enix games qualify also

mine would proberlly have to be Chrono Cross, i just thought it was the most beautiful game ever created, from the lush colorful detailed graphics (by ps1 standards) to the music, to the art and charecters and everything else i just completely fell in love with this game

sure the game was abit rushed, plot hole issues, some can say it bastardized chrono trigger, but i really enjoyed the story for CC i thought they took the rather plain (but very good) story from trigger and just expanded on it a million fold
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#2 Mar 17 2004 at 10:32 AM Rating: Decent
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I'd have to say... Saga Frontier 2... It was just a great game.. Nothing I've ever seen or played, (I'd haven't even played the first Saga Frontier) Of course.. These were the days of SquareSOFT not Square-Enix 6(.'.)9. Rivaling Saga Frontier at the time would also be Front Mission 3.. i loved both these games, and easily put over 300 Hours into both of the games.. I highly suggest people of Tactic/Strategy games play these games ^^
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Chrono Cross
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Baldurs Gate Hands Down My favorite game after this one. Wish they would MMPORG that game I would play all the time.

Sorry missed the square enix only part :) btw this is my first square enix game.



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#6 Mar 17 2004 at 10:54 AM Rating: Decent
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lol i think your misinterpiting my thread a lil "non final fantasy BUT squaresoft/enix made" not any random non FF game, lol would get to flooded otherwise
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Parasite Eve. Great game.
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chronocross was trash.

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#9 Mar 17 2004 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Parasite Eve. Great game.


Yeah, baby!

Parasite Eve 1 was absolutely incredible!
Too bad they screwed up and turned Parasite Eve 2 into another Resident Evil. They should have stuck with the original battle style.

(Oh yeah, and baldur's gate was not a square/enix game.. its interplay, so there!!)
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#10 Mar 17 2004 at 12:24 PM Rating: Good
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Well if I remember right (Im fairly sure it was made by Square). The original Xenogears. Great RPG there. RPG and giants mechs, doesnt get much better.
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Squaresoft: OMG!!!!! Do you not remember Super Mario RPG: Legend of The Seven Stars?! That was my first RPG. I must've played through that game at least 6 times!! >.< It had Final Fantasy tunes from past FF games that were remixed. That game was the best game for the SNES. Mario + Squaresoft= One.Of.The.Best.Games.Ever.

Enix: Grandia 2 was my first Enix game and still my favorite. The music was great and the battle system is fun as hell!


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#12 Mar 17 2004 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Xenogears.
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OMG!!!!! Do you not remember Super Mario RPG: Legend of The Seven Stars?! That was my first RPG. I must've played through that game at least 6 times!! >.< It had Final Fantasy tunes from past FF games that were remixed. That game was the best game for the SNES. Mario + Squaresoft= One.Of.The.Best.Games.Ever.


Yea that was definatly a good game. Had some freakishly good graphics for the SNES too.
#14 Mar 17 2004 at 12:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Chrono trigger. Actually thats my favorite game of all time.
As a square game Super Mario RPG follows as a close second.
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Well if I remember right (Im fairly sure it was made by Square). The original Xenogears. Great RPG there. RPG and giants mechs, doesnt get much better.



Even now I like to replay that game Smiley: grin


Edit: 100th post praising my favorite game ever Smiley: grin

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#16 Mar 17 2004 at 12:35 PM Rating: Good
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Lol I love replaying Xenogears as well, last time was only a few months ago. Ive completely lost track of the amount of times I've beaten that game now.
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I'm torn actually, as much as I loved Chrono Trigger (and my beloved SNES) I still have to say that one of my favorite games EVER is Secret of Mana, I'm surprised nobody has said this one yet.
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I was turned off of the RPG genre in the mid 90's because they turned very repetitive. But it's nice to know that Square can get their feet out of the water every now and then and put out good non-rpg quality games.

I have always been a huge fan of Einhander. The Side-scrolling shooter genre was pretty stale until this little gem came around. I use to play this everyday, and even these days I find a little time to get in a couple levels. It may not have the playtime that other Square/Enix titles do, but the fun factor is through the roof.

I'm also a fan of the ORIGINAL DRAGON WARRIOR. Yeah, that's right. You heard me correctly. 1987. One character. No party members. Fighting one monster at a time. Sub-par plot. Simple. And if you think about it, it pretty much set the standard for Random battles and Turn-based combat.

Yeah, Final Fantasy games are cool and all but there is so much more out there.
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Xenogears, had an amazing story that almost rivaled FF-7 (greatest game of all time)and had a great battle system. Plus the anime was a nice changeup.

PS anyone know of a site that has an overview of the story?
#20 Mar 17 2004 at 12:53 PM Rating: Decent
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A quick google search pulls up http://nisan.leamonde.net/story.html

Not sure how good it is I just glanced over it quick, but a bit of time on google Im sure could pull up more than enough info on the story.
#21 Mar 17 2004 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Alright... no one else has said it, so I guess I'll have to be the first to own up to it: Kingdom Hearts. I loved it so much I actually replayed it on hard mode. Alright... begin making fun ;p

#22 Mar 17 2004 at 12:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Star Ocean 3: Til The End Of Time

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Xenogears
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#24 Mar 17 2004 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
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Nah, man, can't diss Kingdom Hearts! That game was great. Despite the crappy battle system and horrible camera angles!! >.< But, I love playing the game just to see the intro, seeing Leon, Cloud, Sephiroth, and other cameos, and seeing Kairi (She's sooo cute!).


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Has that even been released yet? It might've been released in Japan, but not here in the states.



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#25 Mar 17 2004 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Chrono Trigger has to be my favorite game of all time, I've beaten that game no telling how many times. ^^ I liked chrono cross also, but it lacked the character development that trigger had.

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WTF? I must have missed something, what are you talking about, lol.
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Xenogears, without a doubt. Regardless of whether Final Fantasies were an option or not.
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#27 Mar 17 2004 at 1:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Majadamus wrote:

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Has that even been released yet? It might've been released in Japan, but not here in the states.


That's why we call them Imports! Smiley: grin
#28 Mar 17 2004 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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Quote:well after seeing that chrono trigger **** in game scene



WTF? I must have missed something, what are you talking about, lol.


Hes talking about this thread.
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=1079532999944714340&num=7
#29 Mar 17 2004 at 5:39 PM Rating: Decent
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lol that was a funny thread indeed, oh and see i see many (justifibly so) xenogears fans, i recently came across a website that explains the religius view behind xenogears & saga

http://www.webcom.com/~gnosis/gnintro.htm

oh and pallier, you playing star ocean 3 or st3 directors cut?

(oh and american release of st3 will be the directors cut!)
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#30 Mar 17 2004 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Two games come to mind: Xenogears! **** they really need to followup that story line)
and E.V.O. That game was fun!
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1. Chrono Trigger
2. Xenosage
3. Chrono Cross

I really hope the rumors are true that they are making a 3rd Chrono game. Since they copywrited the name Chrono Lmiit you would think so, but we'll see I guess. Hopefully some news about that at e3.

#32 Mar 17 2004 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow...all great titles, but one i haven't seene anybody say anything about is one of my all time favorite games, not just a squaresoft game (it is) but of all time mind you.....
VAGRANT STORY!!!!!that game rocked. you got to build your own weapons (really mean ones if you played through the game more than once), the chain system kicked **** (a nice break from turn based), and the story line was excellent. by far one of the best in my opinion. Other great square titles, Xenogears, Kingdom Hearts, Parasite eve and Chrono Cross (i loved all of them)

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#34 Mar 17 2004 at 7:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Two games come to mind: Xenogears! **** they really need to followup that story line)


It's called Xenosaga. Which is published by Namco rather than Square Enix (though most of the original Xenogears team is involved), and is technically not connected to the Xenogears story at all (wink wink nudge nudge). And in fact probably will end up diverging non-trivially from the Xenogears storyline.

But since Square Enix will probably never release an official Xenogears-line game, Xenosaga is as close as we'll ever get. And story-wise, it's **** good in its own right (if you liked Xenogears, that is).
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#35 Mar 17 2004 at 7:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Chrono Trigger is my favorite game of all time. I also liked Secret of Evermore, Secret of Mana, and Xenogears. Then Kingdom Hearts came along and now my list of favorites is messed up. I like them all, I guess.
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*runs by and gives a drive by shout out*

valkrye profile was also incredibly good!
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#37 Mar 17 2004 at 7:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Xenogears. Hands down.

Not only a brilliant storyline.

But a kick-glass slap your mother in the face and throw her down the stairs awesome fighting engine. It felt like a fighting game but was so pretty.

Although I wish Fei was more of a "man." EDIT: Ending scene. Yes. "Down there" man.

I honestly didn't enjoy Xenosaga THAT MUCH. I own it, but it, to me at least, PALES in comparison to Xenogears.
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#38 Mar 17 2004 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I honestly didn't enjoy Xenosaga THAT MUCH. I own it, but it, to me at least, PALES in comparison to Xenogears.


well to be fair xenosaga is 6 parts that will be 6 parts, so pacing is required

xenogears was massive in story but always felt rushed, i think they dreamt big for it but square never gave them enough time to do what they needed (look at disc 2) even though they broke xenogears to 6 parts i always felt they tried to cram the previus 4 parts into part 5 (assuing my numbers are correct)

xenosaga has a nice set story pacing to it, so hopefully with it we'll get the whole story and not a rushed cram job (plus xenosaga 2 will be out soon, check out the trailer! it rocks!)
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Just wanted to say thank you Mithi. The reason why I haven't played ZenoSaga was because I figured Namco was ripping off the XenoGears story. But if ya say it's a good game in it's own right then maybe it is worth checking out after all. I'll go rent it and find out =)
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One thing that bugged me about Xenosaga was the gears in that game. Not only did they just not seem important but when you DID use them they just...didn't seem to pack in that "Hey..this is pretty **** cool" effect.
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YA the gears, or AWGS in Xenosaga werent even neccessary at all. I only used them a couple times just to try them out or if I was low on health with no way to recover.

I cant believe I forgot to mention Kingdom Hearts. I guess I was thinking more along the lines of older games. But KH is my favorite Square game and one of my top favorite games of all time.

Someone mentioned Vagrant Story and that was a very good game too.
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My all time favorite RPG is FF3...6 in japan...but non-FF..it would have to be chrono trigger...best game (other than FF3) ever...the story the characters (u can't deny it,having a psycho scythe wielding vampire in ur pt (magus) just ownz)
Chrono croos is realllyyy good but SE **** something up big time with that game....
What made chrono trigger go above all others..... tech attacks (double and triple team)..in chrono cross theres like 5 of them T_T I was dissapointed.

cya^^

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Ok, heres my little list!

1: Chrono Trigger (I've played it through about 70 times on SNES...)

2: Brave Fencer Musashi (The game is AWESOME!)

3: Dew Prism (or was it called Thread of Fate, I forget)

4: Valkyre Profile (Another AWESOME game!)

5: Vagrant Story (I got tired of it honestly, but it did rule)

6: Front Mission 3 (Yay mechs!)

7: DragonWarrior III (I got the GB one, but its still great)

Ok... there you go... and Brave Fencer Musashi!!
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#44 Mar 17 2004 at 9:44 PM Rating: Decent
I think that after FF III (US), which doesn't count toward answering the stated question, that Xenogears is my favorite Squaresoft game.

My favorite Square games are:

1. FF III (US)
2. Xenogears
3. Crono Trigger
4. FF IV (Hard-type)
5. A tie between Super Mario RPG, Secret of Evermore, and Parasite Eve, (the first one, Parasite Eve 2 really stank).

Secret of Evermore looked so much better than Secret of Mana, but they didn't have as many weapon types/levels and I wish it was as long as Secret of Mana, (I can beat it in a few hours).Smiley: frown
#45 Mar 17 2004 at 9:48 PM Rating: Decent
Sorry, just saw this after I posted:

ChibiMagatsu wrote:
Chrono Trigger (I've played it through about 70 times on SNES...)


Wow! Ultra-high levels and and a Prism Dress for every little girl in Guardia. Right on!
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LadyOfHolyDarkness, Eater of Souls wrote:
Sorry, just saw this after I posted:


ChibiMagatsu wrote:

Chrono Trigger (I've played it through about 70 times on SNES...)




Wow! Ultra-high levels and and a Prism Dress for every little girl in Guardia. Right on!


Hah yes indeed... all their stats are maxed and everyone has gold earings... lol... I beat it early to get the cool "creators" ending just to hear the Magus Statue quote... great game!
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Pallier wrote:
That's why we call them Imports!




Ahhhhh..I see...hahahahaha...*mumbles profanities* rich **** >.>

Can you read Japanese? I would buy imports if I could afford them and knew Japanese.

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I would have to say Legend of Mana, and right after that Seikun Densetsu 2.. **** can't remember te spelling :(
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#49 Mar 18 2004 at 12:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Toss up between Einhander and Xenogears both amazing games.

Ohhh i almost forgot Front Mission 3 sweet lord i loved that game.

As for Enix its all about original Dragon Warrior, that was my first RPG when i was like 8 years old, i got it with subscription to nintendo power and me and my bro played it forever.

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#50 Mar 18 2004 at 12:47 AM Rating: Decent
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I would have to say that one of my first favorite Square-Enix games that wasn't a FF series would have to be Chrono Trigger on the SNES. A newer game that I enjoyed playing that they had also created was Kingdom Hearts for the PS2.
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#51 Mar 18 2004 at 6:23 AM Rating: Decent
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I was 60 hrs or so into Xenogears when it asked me to put in disc 2.. about killed me! took so long to get there i forgot there WAS a disc 2. WHEN WILL IT END i often cried! It was a great game and all, but sometimes, there CAN be too much storyline.

Anything squaresoft made for the SNES was the best non-FF game.
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