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When you are all out solo'in What is the hardest con you will take on EM , T's ? This can be with single job or with Subjob. I hear ppl in my link that take on T's but i have yet to beat a T without using my 2hr (warrior). I usuall stay with DC w/high def is the highest. Now that i am starting over and leveling paladin I am wondering if i should try T's. Especially now I no the wonders of food. Are there conditions that have to be there before you take on a higer con? ie Sufficent TP. Right now i am soloing in LaTheine while waiting for a party. Most of the stuff that check EM or higher are orcs, gobs, sheep, akbaba.
It depends largely on your class and level.
At and up to 23RDM, I was soloing T's handily. Mind you, as a 20WHM, I can't solo a DC without 2hr and some help from a nearby friend.
At and up to 23RDM, I was soloing T's handily. Mind you, as a 20WHM, I can't solo a DC without 2hr and some help from a nearby friend.
I have to add at high levels even easy prey can kill U it all depends on the Mob and what it is weak against and what specials they have.
At level 43 DK, T's will murder me solo with ease. Easy's are usually extremely difficult to solo, and thus I've only tried it a couple of times. At this point I either have to go around killing too weaks, or get in a party.
Yeah i hear that. When i was looking for my Kazham key at in Y.grotto I was 27war . Damn DC Orc Fighter took me down to 30pts. I can see where having a little magic can help so you can debuff and such when going against T's.
As a Rdm I was doing toughs up into my late teens. Now I look for EM or DC. I can still kill toughs, but the downtime seriously effects by EOT (Experience Over Time).
It all depends on type of mob. Undead are always harder than they check. Gobs have the bomb toss, quadav have ore toss. If I see an orc with a spear, I steer clear of it, because it's a dragoon and that jump attack hurts like mad. Casters obviously are tougher than they check, because they're just as strong and hit just as hard as their non-casting counterparts, but they can also hurt you badly with spells. Lizards can petrify you and rip you up when you're helpless to defend yourself.
As you can see, there's a lot of factors to be weighed when soloing. As a BLM, my survival depends on getting my spells off. A fast attacking or double attacking mob will have a better chance of interrupting my spells. A silencing mob will make me completely useless. So I take tons of precautions before I attack a mob.
As you can see, there's a lot of factors to be weighed when soloing. As a BLM, my survival depends on getting my spells off. A fast attacking or double attacking mob will have a better chance of interrupting my spells. A silencing mob will make me completely useless. So I take tons of precautions before I attack a mob.
As a DRG/DRK, I solo toughs even now at lvl 29. Probably change a bit later, but at this point, I'm kicking their a$$. Knowing food effects helps alot, I exploit Mithkabobs to all hell. But it does depend on the mob, I wouldn't even try a Tough Gob solo.
this isnt the best question due to lack of specifics. but with my lvl 28nin or 30mnk i wont take on anything above EP (blank stats). but with my lvl 7smn I can kill EM mobs(non yagudo) w/o much trouble. EP things that i would NEVER fight is an elemental or (sometimes) ghosts/weapons depending on thier stats. (i.e. high def is a nono, even medium def makes me stop and think)
heh, I thought I was going crazy... I have been getting frustrated at my conning abilities on my higher lvl character. I'm like wtf? An even match brings me below 20% hp and a decent match can kill me with half his hp left (without using combo or hundred fists [mnk 2hr abil]). I don't try for anything over decent challenge... I would rather take two 50 exp's and a 72 exp over trying for 100 exp on an EM and dying to loose 400 exp instead. I don't go for EM's unless I have a mithkabob effect and a hi-potion or two. TP helps... oh... and since we're on the topic, maybe we can list a few mob's that don't act like they guage... Examples:
1) Elemental's... may con easy but can wh00p you up.
2) Sapplings... wtf? This says dc, but should be vt IMO.
3) Yagudo... some, not all, are tougher than they guage.
4) Mad fox... I con'd one last night to be a dc, yet it did twice as much damage to me than I could do to it and had better accuracy than I as well... if I would not have had white magic, I would have been screwed.
Any other's you guys can think of?
Edited, Tue Jan 27 15:48:06 2004 by ElvaanKrem
1) Elemental's... may con easy but can wh00p you up.
2) Sapplings... wtf? This says dc, but should be vt IMO.
3) Yagudo... some, not all, are tougher than they guage.
4) Mad fox... I con'd one last night to be a dc, yet it did twice as much damage to me than I could do to it and had better accuracy than I as well... if I would not have had white magic, I would have been screwed.
Any other's you guys can think of?
Edited, Tue Jan 27 15:48:06 2004 by ElvaanKrem
As others have pointed it, it's very situationally dependant. Worm mobs, for instance, give you great xp for the amount of effort it takes to kill them. In general as L29 paladin I solo easy-decent mobs, but things with high defense can be a problem even if the mob is a bit lower level than me.
Last week I got my *** handed to me by a madfox that conned easy.
So many you cant list them all after soloing for awhile the people that brag at 25+ lvl soloing toughs just make me laugh. It is all about the Mob and its special. I was in marshlands and guess what cons easy to be I am thinking I need a vine so I hop of my KFC and hit it with a slow/dia/paralyze/silence spell 31war/whm my Great AXE 48d my Bow 43 dmg + arrow. That sucker gave me a beat down I used every spell I could some I could get off others couldnt like heal I was constantly getting hit trying to heal like my d was not 190 more like 0 and yes it was slowed and the rest. I was like no way this cant be divine seal Cure2 another 180hp yea bam bam nothing stopped that baby. As I layed dead the screen states slow has worn off of the Malboro slowed my a$$.....
Killed Giant Grub in Dangruf Wadi as a level 9 RDM :)
Thank you all for the replies thus far. To be a little more specific i am targeting the lvls round 10-14. I am a paladin and am currently doing some solo work in Lathein. When i hit level 15 i am not worried so much about going solo cause i will hit the dunes for some party action. Most of the mobs in lathein are various orcs ranging from fodder to grunt, mad sheep, bees/wasps, gobs, fungsars, akbaba, hares, saplings and others.
As a theif, it's very difficult to solo, because my main method of damage requires two or three people to distract the monster. I only solo EP. (On the plus side, I get *lots* of treasure) ^^
Since PLD is about taking damage and not dishing it out I do not see a PLD and soloing toughs as a viable option at that level. Getting a tough is about DOT and who can dish the most damage the fastest. A PLD can heal but still just would be tough to solo as a PLD I was thinking of doing PLD/DRK or DRK/PLD to have the great D and Offense for soloing and a little extra mp.
CaptainCalicoJack wrote:
As a theif, it's very difficult to solo, because my main method of damage requires two or three people to distract the monster. I only solo EP. (On the plus side, I get *lots* of treasure) ^^
I felt the same way when leveling my thief. I got her up to lvl 10 and found it difficult after that. I really wanted to get to 15 which would make a great sub for me. i generally went for ep to fill up my tp then find a DC.
10-14 i'd stick to easy's with the occasionaly dc
at 24 decents and evens are handing me my hiney O.o
i can take the occasional decent but TP and 2hr come in handy
at 24 decents and evens are handing me my hiney O.o
i can take the occasional decent but TP and 2hr come in handy
Ilani said
Heheh... I completely understand this. I saw an easy Morlboro, took it down pretty easy with my RDM. Didn't get the vine, so I saw a DC one, thinking it shouldn't be that hard. Boy was I wrong. It put a beating on me. Lucky I always save mana for gravity, and I ran out of that zone as fast as I can. Some mobs are just harder than other mobs, and some are just way underconn'd like the marlboro.
Like what somebody said, it all depends on the mob, and what their special attack ability is.
Curently as a lvl 30 Red Mage, I'm still solo'ing Tough Quadavs in Rollanberry Field. If I don't have food effect, I normally stick with just tough cons (takes all Mana and HP). If I have food effect, I go high defense conning Quadavs. I do even cons also. I normally stick with casters as I can silence them and I find that they don't hit too often. I stay away from the gobbue farmers because of their silence ability.
For those that don't believe RDM solo'ing, it's possible. I currently wear brass scale (the lvl 30 one) for feet, leg, arms, Steam scale mail for body, the +3 att CP glove, the +5 att tiger stole, +2 att beetle earring x 2, +5 att lantern shield, cotton cape, the sandorian ring and an onyx ring. As you can see, I'm pretty much stacked with +att items. I normally cast Enxxxx spell line with Protect 2, blaze spike, and slow/paralyze the mob, so it's possible with a RDM. Oh yeah, food effect also.
Down time is the worst part (5 minutes from one kill to the next kill), but grouping xp goes by a lot faster. I only solo now when I can't find a group, or only have like 2-3 hours of play time.
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I was in marshlands and guess what cons easy to be I am thinking I need a vine so I hop of my KFC and hit it with a slow/dia/paralyze/silence spell 31war/whm my Great AXE 48d my Bow 43 dmg + arrow
Heheh... I completely understand this. I saw an easy Morlboro, took it down pretty easy with my RDM. Didn't get the vine, so I saw a DC one, thinking it shouldn't be that hard. Boy was I wrong. It put a beating on me. Lucky I always save mana for gravity, and I ran out of that zone as fast as I can. Some mobs are just harder than other mobs, and some are just way underconn'd like the marlboro.
Like what somebody said, it all depends on the mob, and what their special attack ability is.
Curently as a lvl 30 Red Mage, I'm still solo'ing Tough Quadavs in Rollanberry Field. If I don't have food effect, I normally stick with just tough cons (takes all Mana and HP). If I have food effect, I go high defense conning Quadavs. I do even cons also. I normally stick with casters as I can silence them and I find that they don't hit too often. I stay away from the gobbue farmers because of their silence ability.
For those that don't believe RDM solo'ing, it's possible. I currently wear brass scale (the lvl 30 one) for feet, leg, arms, Steam scale mail for body, the +3 att CP glove, the +5 att tiger stole, +2 att beetle earring x 2, +5 att lantern shield, cotton cape, the sandorian ring and an onyx ring. As you can see, I'm pretty much stacked with +att items. I normally cast Enxxxx spell line with Protect 2, blaze spike, and slow/paralyze the mob, so it's possible with a RDM. Oh yeah, food effect also.
Down time is the worst part (5 minutes from one kill to the next kill), but grouping xp goes by a lot faster. I only solo now when I can't find a group, or only have like 2-3 hours of play time.
As a L10-14 paladin I soloed in dangruf wadi, killing worms and goblins, then just goblins. The lizards are tempting, cause you try a couple and can kill em, but then they whip out baleful gaze and get 15 attacks off while you're petrified, and one of their friends wanders up... so I'd recommend staying away from them. In addition to the xp you'll get some very nice loot from both the goblins and the worms.
As a level 18 thief I only take on EP, mind ya it is really easy going, at the time tarohgi canyon was really drying up, and although the farming was nice (saruta cotton/silk), the time it would take to find anything not to weak was getting annoying.
I got a request to help a war from san d'oria with his mission 6 part 1 and headed to giddeus. I thought I was dead for sure when i fell down a pit, but pretty quickly feathers were flying. I never imagined yagudo were so easy, way weaker then gobs. I made level 19 pretty quick needing only 600 or so exp, and soon got another 1200 in a couple hours solo/farming. I can usually kill probably 10 or so yagudo before needing rest, I don't worry until my hp goes below about 50%, then I rest up just in case.
Getting SA's off is tough, not much room in a dungeon and it seems like they are ALWAYS facing you. The aggro linking is so weak I had a prosecuter walk right by me as I was killing a medicant and not aggro, yet both were EP. Most of the time a good 15 or 20 feet is ample, but try staying back in case they path toward you.
The nice thing is there is lots of mobs to kill in the first lower section, almost no problem finding anything easy, and they are all easy, no random DC or IT's coming out of the woodwork. Just watch out for the named ones, Eyy Mon the Ironbreaker and Zxuu Buxu the Silent, they are ninja's, getting in a SA is a must (i noticed shadow DOES NOT absorb this, evidence SA does have a 100% hit rate/can't miss if done right?), and having 300% TP will really help. Just don't do what I did and use FB right away, make sure you slash away the shadow first or FB will miss outright. I did that on Zxuu Buxu starting at 60% hp (190/310), got in SA, missed FB, had to use my 2hour and won with 33 hp. Didn't help one of the worms was casting on me all the while, but their magic very weak, never been Stone'd for more then 10dmg, mostly get 0-4. The weak worms will link with the easy ones, usually they are just annoying thou.
I caught one medicant just as he cast his summon, he never got it off, but the whole battle he was covered in bolts and sounded like a bomb charging up, I was honestly really scared until I realized what it actually was, then I just laughed at myself for being a n00b.
The loot isn't bad either, wind crystals and grass thread from the Yagudo necklaces (i haven't tried this since I didn't know the recipe) I often get silver beastcoins and can steal reg beastcoins. Not as good as saruta cotton and silk farming, but at least you get some exp too. It is also nice you are pretty close to town.
The only problem is looking for a group at the same time, real bummer since giddeus is no where near anywhere you would be going.
Edited, Tue Jan 27 18:45:30 2004 by Ralluwen
I got a request to help a war from san d'oria with his mission 6 part 1 and headed to giddeus. I thought I was dead for sure when i fell down a pit, but pretty quickly feathers were flying. I never imagined yagudo were so easy, way weaker then gobs. I made level 19 pretty quick needing only 600 or so exp, and soon got another 1200 in a couple hours solo/farming. I can usually kill probably 10 or so yagudo before needing rest, I don't worry until my hp goes below about 50%, then I rest up just in case.
Getting SA's off is tough, not much room in a dungeon and it seems like they are ALWAYS facing you. The aggro linking is so weak I had a prosecuter walk right by me as I was killing a medicant and not aggro, yet both were EP. Most of the time a good 15 or 20 feet is ample, but try staying back in case they path toward you.
The nice thing is there is lots of mobs to kill in the first lower section, almost no problem finding anything easy, and they are all easy, no random DC or IT's coming out of the woodwork. Just watch out for the named ones, Eyy Mon the Ironbreaker and Zxuu Buxu the Silent, they are ninja's, getting in a SA is a must (i noticed shadow DOES NOT absorb this, evidence SA does have a 100% hit rate/can't miss if done right?), and having 300% TP will really help. Just don't do what I did and use FB right away, make sure you slash away the shadow first or FB will miss outright. I did that on Zxuu Buxu starting at 60% hp (190/310), got in SA, missed FB, had to use my 2hour and won with 33 hp. Didn't help one of the worms was casting on me all the while, but their magic very weak, never been Stone'd for more then 10dmg, mostly get 0-4. The weak worms will link with the easy ones, usually they are just annoying thou.
I caught one medicant just as he cast his summon, he never got it off, but the whole battle he was covered in bolts and sounded like a bomb charging up, I was honestly really scared until I realized what it actually was, then I just laughed at myself for being a n00b.
The loot isn't bad either, wind crystals and grass thread from the Yagudo necklaces (i haven't tried this since I didn't know the recipe) I often get silver beastcoins and can steal reg beastcoins. Not as good as saruta cotton and silk farming, but at least you get some exp too. It is also nice you are pretty close to town.
The only problem is looking for a group at the same time, real bummer since giddeus is no where near anywhere you would be going.
Edited, Tue Jan 27 18:45:30 2004 by Ralluwen
to be 95% sure you'll live only fight decent challenge. I say 95% cause there are those weird fights where you miss half you hits and the mobs crit hit you 3x in a row :)
solo'ing even mage is dangerous.
tough + is suicide.
this does not apply to beast masters.
solo'ing even mage is dangerous.
tough + is suicide.
this does not apply to beast masters.
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When not in a pt I solo DC's, and sometimes easies cause if I'm not careful a high defense decent can kick my ***.
can take EM comfortably enough, not necessarily the best exp but i can take them down, toughs can die as long as theyre first level toughs and my bind doesnt go all wrong (lev 25 bm/rm
My 23mnk/war can solo EM/DC in dunes but not any casters as they blind/silence/paralyze and thats what owns me and no high defense mobs either. Out of all the starter classes ive played rmge and mnks solo the best IMO. It really is class situational when it comes to solo. Ive found it alot easier to solo DC mobs at 50-72 exp a piece than taking on the T's. There is alot of downtime for my mnk or red when fighting EM/T.
Here is how ive soloed 30 lvls
20-30 DC mobs per/hr at 50-72exp each nonstop or
Kill all EP non-linking mobs in sight at 21 exp per/kill and before u know it youll have 1500-300exp in a little time for soloing. So to me the best would be mobs that con low defense and low evasion i own most of these mobs (hares,orcs,worms and most of the wild creatures. Oh and a side note T/VT/IT Gobs are harder than T/VT/IT Orcs for some odd reason has anyone else noticed this. Keep it comin
Here is how ive soloed 30 lvls
20-30 DC mobs per/hr at 50-72exp each nonstop or
Kill all EP non-linking mobs in sight at 21 exp per/kill and before u know it youll have 1500-300exp in a little time for soloing. So to me the best would be mobs that con low defense and low evasion i own most of these mobs (hares,orcs,worms and most of the wild creatures. Oh and a side note T/VT/IT Gobs are harder than T/VT/IT Orcs for some odd reason has anyone else noticed this. Keep it comin
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