Alternatives to teh dreaded qufimFollow

You leveled at 18 in the champaigne?? I pass through there on the way to Jeuno, and the stuff there's really high level. Like, kick your *** in 3 hits High Level. If you're leveling there, why not just stay there to get to 25? I'm sure the exp is still really good. If this isn't possible, try Jugner Forest. There are usually a few good groups in there, and decent exp. Qufim seems to be the fastest exp I've seen so far, so if you're really into speeding through levels you may need to grin and bear it.

Edited, Thu Jan 22 23:09:50 2004 by AvatarAndy

Bah... yet another racist. "Since" you were with a JP party? Sorry to burst your bubble, but I've been with JPs that play like idiots, and NAs that I got crazy XP with. Sometimes XP does go a bit faster, but that's because theres less time talking and more time killing in my experiace since we can't communicate well. Anyway, it's not about your ethnic background... any race is capable of playing video games.

Edited, Fri Jan 23 00:49:18 2004 by wheatpuff

Finally another who shares my opinion of Qufim. I too am on the Cerberus server and the main trouble I have found with Qufim is finding a decent party to lvl with. It has pushed me to the point of soloing off of crappy exp. and making gil of off mobs and the items they drop (farming). The bright side of this tedious way of lvling I have opted for over going to Qufim is that by the time I reach lvl 30, I'll probably have the 148,000 gil to buy the airpass.

hmm Jspector you remind me of a friend i have on the Shiva server he is 15 and doesn't want to leave Latheine.... so he solo's and solo's and so on....me on the other hand I loved Qufim when i was there I love new backrounds so I go through them fast i was killin in valkurm at like 11 or 12 (after subj of course) then qufim at 18-24 kaz at 24-26 then the second jungle from 26-30... BUT due to your anti qufim nature I suggest Jungar. for 2 reasons if you have a full pt with all sig you could rock the frogs I beleive don't quote me on that and you would get good money off of darks if they sell there like they do in Shiva... GL hunting

Why is it Americans use thw word racist alot. Itdoesn't have to do anything with race true, it does have to do a lot with the fact that the Japanese players have had the game longer and do play really good as a result of it and a lot of people know that (well maybe not the reason). So if one would say they were with a JP group then the majority of people will think he must have been with a good group because they were Japanese. If you are a good NA player then fine good for you,m aybe one day your name will be known and you will help us Americans have a better name.

By the way, Akiraine, three of your four reasons have absolutely nothing to do with Japanese parties. They have everything to do with EXPERIENCED parties. Let me say again: EXPERIENCED parties. The trend, as of now, is that many Japanese are more EXPERIENCED than many non-Japanese. Having a leveled sub, being able to form a good party, knowing where to level, and having cash on hand has nothing to do with being Japanese. So stop saying that those are things Japanese players do that NA players don't. The only thing I'm willing to partially concede is the availability of funds, but even that gap is quickly closed in a focused effort on the part of any player, especially before level 30, which is what most NA players have experienced most anyway.

Qufim is such a sad area, not a bad area. At early 20's doing worms at lake or cave exit is awesome xp with very little risk. I can tell you some things I have noticed that are big factors in the Qufim nightmare. Greedy parties are a big reason why Qufim is almost always under beastmen control on Siren. Let me give you an RL example of something I had to go through. I am with a party doing worms, and crabs low to mid 20's XP is rolling in at 80-120 xp a pop sometimes a lil more or lil less. Steady and safe xp though with little downtime. Whole group minus me agrees the xp is no good anymore and its time to go into the tower.**Note at this lvl range its stupid to go into tower** To my astonishment they actually want to fight Chaos Idols. I was completely floored by this suggestion, and figured everyone would be like "No Way", but instead everyone was like cool. I explained that it was a bad idea, and being A. The only advanced job in party, B. The primary tank (Paladin), and C. Highest lvl in party at time I thought they might heed my warnings, but still nothing. Entire party wiped by an Idol, Ancient bat which aggroed, and other bats which linked. I obviously disbanded from party immed after this incident. Later on I guess they found a new tank, and were in tower again when I saw them calling for a group needing to be raised. Lesson here is xp is best gained in balance of xp vs downtime + safety. If your fighting 6 IT mobs an hour at 180 xp a pop which is around 5-6 min fighting, and 4 or so min downtime your raking in 1080xp an hour compared to 20 or so T or VT you are chaining an hour at lets say 100xp to round in between T and VT your making 2000xp an hour. This might be off a little bit but with a gap of 920xp there is plenty of room for adjustment. Not too mention the increased safety of being able to handle a possible mob adding on in fight without party getting owned. Other thing is people not willing to call for help when they are getting demolished by something way outside their abilities. I spent two hours yesterday while breaking from lvling to clear the delkfutt tower zone of all the nasties. Had a group fighting an obvious IT crab to them (Assume IT b/c they were pounding at it for sometime, and still only half way down) have a Giant Hunter spawn right on them. I was fighting a Wight so could not pull it at that moment, but instead of calling for help on their still 1/4 health crab or zone they continued to beat on it while the giant wiped them out one at a time. Finally got the Wight down, and engaged the Hunter, but too late for some of party. Its always a sad day in Qufim :( It does not get much better anymore though going to Kazaam so get used to the disappointment. Eventually it gets better, but that is far down the road. Be Smart, and Happy Hunting

hard to get groups in qufim? if you find that to be the case, good luck finding one elsewhere. you may wait even longer. im pretty sure the reason you can't get a group is due to the time you log in.

a warr friend of mine used to log in late at nite (after 11pm our time). he'd log out in frustration that he couldn't get a group (groups already formed, no one leaving yet, etc). this week, he was able to log in a little earlier on several evenings, like 7pm/8pm. he got 5 invitations before he could even move 10 steps.

if you're in a LS and can get people together, go to another zone and pick up a few more there. that's about the main way to get fighting action in other areas...ohterwise you may end up with 5 other soloing people whose jobs aren't necessarily good together in a team.

in Sauromogue Champaigne there is a spot for 18-22...few NA groups seem to know it. after 22, i suppose you could continue at that sam spot there a bit longer with less exp but since you're probably looking for uber exp, you may have to go elsewhere.

one place i like that is not qufim is delkfutt tower. it's underused imo. just form your group in qufim and suggest they go into the tower. that way, you'll be in an area wth lots of people, but fight in an area away from the qufim craziness.

You gotta watch it in this forum.. don't ever mention nationality!

Korroloka Tunnel under Bastok has many of the same mobs with a larger level difference than qufim without having to worry about weapons, wights, and banshees. If you can get a party there, you are going to level like crazy.

By the time you get to crawler's nest you may want to consider looking at evil weapons in Batallia/Rolanberry/Sauromouge. Once those start to get weak, look at the gustav tunnel or altepa desert. Altepa is a barren wasteland when it comes to finding other parties ... you almost never run into anyone out there preventing the closed quarters chaos you find in CN. The best thing in Altepa is the spawn rate is so high that no matter how fast you kill the mobs, more are there waiting to pull. Waiting in CN for beetle or soldier spawns is just a draaaaag. The beetles are the worst because there are always three parties fighting for the same two spawned beetles, and you will always find pullers for all three parties racing to provoke the next spawn ... it feels like camping Leaping Lizzy ... it sucks.