well we just got worked tonight. didn't have the ideal group but we did have
war/mnk
drk/war
thf/war
whm/blm
blm/rdm
brd/whm
our problem wasn't tanking by any means...it was keeping those little ******* mandras asleep.
we took down the black mandra twice (once it flooded our tank for 687 dmg, another time it missed flooding me when I pulled it -- out of range), but the other guys would wake up at different times and that was just not fun. we did the reraise thing but tractor wouldn't cast and raise was acting up also and wouldn't let us raise.
black mandra hit us with a dream flower, group paralyze, group blind, and while they didn't do much damage, getting piled on by 7 mandras is nobody's idea of fun...the black mandra went down easy enough, but those waked up mandras were hard to control...
who's done this and actually had the party die? the record we saw was 11 minutes and 6 seconds...
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just my question would it make sense to take out all the little madras while you first sleep them all. Since they are easier to take out and you dont have to worry about crowd control. As long as you make sure the black one is silence. If you needed to you could always have brd sleep and after a few seconds have blm ES + silence the black one..
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oh forgot this bit...
I pulled them the first time with eseal/sleep...the black one resisted it.
In the 2 attempts we had after that, I had the bard give me etude and I pulled without eseal and all the white ones slept while the black one came. I was able to get eseal/silence to work, and the black mandra wasn't really a problem.
Sleep just HAS to work...since they'd wake up at different times it'd either be me with hate, the bard, or the white mage.
Really fun fights though...we died multiple times but only lost 300xp or so each time...that's a good 20 minutes of fighting to get it back :)
I pulled them the first time with eseal/sleep...the black one resisted it.
In the 2 attempts we had after that, I had the bard give me etude and I pulled without eseal and all the white ones slept while the black one came. I was able to get eseal/silence to work, and the black mandra wasn't really a problem.
Sleep just HAS to work...since they'd wake up at different times it'd either be me with hate, the bard, or the white mage.
Really fun fights though...we died multiple times but only lost 300xp or so each time...that's a good 20 minutes of fighting to get it back :)
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As for equity, I was saying I would do what it takes to get my phalanx scroll. If, for example, both phalanx and erase drops, then erase would be free game. Maybe I have a different way of looking at things ... I'm looking at it from a "per need" and "per contribution" point of view.
Hey, i'm all for the Need Before Greed system, but you can't expect to do that with a pickup group. All you're providing is 40 freaking seals, and you expect to get loot rights on a 400k gil spell if it drops?! In your dreams. I can get 40 seals in a day if i wanted, what you're providing is not as valuable as you seem to believe.
If you want a specific drop in an encounter, then ask for it, but be willing to give up any other drops. For instance, i might take up your offer if you say if Phalanx drops, you get rights to it, but anythign else that drops, you'll pass on. I've done similar things in other games.
See my recruiting post in this forum for BCNM40. I don't think I'm being unresonable at all since everyone is guaranteed at least 35K in easy profits and possibly as much as over 100K each.
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