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nah its not really lolsam they can always /DNC and provide a gimp haste samba, and and they can give TP to real DD's, every 5 minutes.
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#53REDACTED,
Posted: Dec 16 2010 at 2:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) And what dagger would they be using, Blau or is there something better? So add in the Acc gear+food for using a B ranked weapon(unless doing specific REALLY LOW eva mobs like Worms or they used Merits of course) then find their +Haste where available.
It seems like people are simply taking offence to the term "garbage". How about if he used "rubbish" instead?
Dinishte wrote:
Maybe if any of you had half he intellect of a bread loaf you'd recognize THIS IS NOT THE ONLY THING ROG HAS EVER SAID. I'd say more than 50% of his posts are nothing but insulting, offensive, ignorant, or straight out WRONG.
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normal people who may not live in their parent's basement unemployed and useless.
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Sam has plenty of place in Abyssea. Guess what? Until they change FFXI into a paying job that gives people cash for being online, I think they should still have fun. Sam might actually be *gasp* fun.
Dinishte wrote:
Wonder Gem rdmcandie wrote:
Palides wrote:
Wonder Gem rdmcandie wrote:
Pretty sure a RDM can out DD a sam, just saying.
Now compare that to a fully geared Sam with A+ weapon and merits. ZOMG You might do more dmg per WS, but they will WS 3-5x for your every 1 unless you use a REALLY bad offhand in which case your straight up DoT will be so abysmal the WS's won't make up for it?
Finuve wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Arcari wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Palides wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Palides wrote:
It is not garbage. Just because a job doesn't hold the no. 1 damage slot does not make it garbage. I guess middle of the pack DD = garbage to you.
...or I'm not paying attention and I'll just leave this thread now.
Edited, Dec 16th 2010 2:48pm by xypin
Edited, Dec 16th 2010 2:48pm by xypin
Finuve wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Arcari wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Palides wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Palides wrote:
It is not garbage. Just because a job doesn't hold the no. 1 damage slot does not make it garbage. I guess middle of the pack DD = garbage to you.
Nah, Dual Wield adding extra hit etc.
Arcari wrote:
Finuve wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Arcari wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Palides wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Palides wrote:
It is not garbage. Just because a job doesn't hold the no. 1 damage slot does not make it garbage. I guess middle of the pack DD = garbage to you.
Nah, Dual Wield adding extra hit etc.
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And what dagger would they be using, Blau or is there something better? So add in the Acc gear+food for using a B ranked weapon(unless doing specific REALLY LOW eva mobs like Worms or they used Merits of course) then find their +Haste where available.
Now compare that to a fully geared Sam with A+ weapon and merits. ZOMG You might do more dmg per WS, but they will WS 3-5x for your every 1 unless you use a REALLY bad offhand in which case your straight up DoT will be so abysmal the WS's won't make up for it?
Now compare that to a fully geared Sam with A+ weapon and merits. ZOMG You might do more dmg per WS, but they will WS 3-5x for your every 1 unless you use a REALLY bad offhand in which case your straight up DoT will be so abysmal the WS's won't make up for it?
You don't know what you're talking about. Options over Blau Dolch are Clement Skean and Twilight Dagger. The B rank argument has lost relevance due to growth rates being the same over the past 15 levels as A rated skills, especially if you factor in something like Razed Ruins atma. Most front lining Red Mages that know what the heck they are doing offhand something like Joyeuse or a double or multi-attacking Khanda. You also seem to neglect Enspell I, which is calculated in accuracy and potency on cast instead of on hit like the II line, and still takes effect on ALL hits.
Dinishte wrote:
Wonder Gem rdmcandie wrote:
Palides wrote:
Wonder Gem rdmcandie wrote:
Pretty sure a RDM can out DD a sam, just saying.
If the RDM has Chant du Cygne perhaps, which again, you would compare to a SAM with Fudo, and again no.
Evisceration + RR says hello
And what dagger would they be using, Blau or is there something better? So add in the Acc gear+food for using a B ranked weapon(unless doing specific REALLY LOW eva mobs like Worms or they used Merits of course) then find their +Haste where available.
Now compare that to a fully geared Sam with A+ weapon and merits. ZOMG You might do more dmg per WS, but they will WS 3-5x for your every 1 unless you use a REALLY bad offhand in which case your straight up DoT will be so abysmal the WS's won't make up for it?
LOLwat. RDM gets the equivalent of an A- weapon simply by using Composure. Can cap ACC with Pizza +1 (maybe without I don't play and have only other posters info to go on), can get well over 500ATK, can get 25% gear haste, has a combined delay with dagger/sword of 168 (with no outside buffs 132 with BRD songs). Will AVG 2.5 Hits per attack round, has up to 28 DMG added on to every weapon strike during the TP phase. (essentially 61+63 = 124D weapon) a 6 hit critable WS.
(considered with Blau/Joy)
Even without CDC I bet a RDM out DD's a SAM. Just saying.
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They really ought to add Aftermaths to older Relic Weapons, just sayin'. Or just plain modify the WS to not suck.
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Dinishte wrote:
Maybe if any of you had half he intellect of a bread loaf you'd recognize THIS IS NOT THE ONLY THING ROG HAS EVER SAID. I'd say more than 50% of his posts are nothing but insulting, offensive, ignorant, or straight out WRONG.
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normal people who may not live in their parent's basement unemployed and useless.
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Sam has plenty of place in Abyssea. Guess what? Until they change FFXI into a paying job that gives people cash for being online, I think they should still have fun. Sam might actually be *gasp* fun.
lol I love Rog.
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Dinishte wrote:
In over 100 Abyssea parties, I've seen -zero- burns of any kind.
What kind of Abyssea parties are you doing that don't at least tp burn?
Dinishte wrote:
spcwill wrote:
Saying someone should be banned for posting something you don't personally agree with is probably the most childish line to ever be used on the internet. He has on view point on the issue, you have another. Regardless of the topic, you make yourself sound stupid when you say that people of oppsing viewpoints must be banned. Throw in the name calling and I see more reason why you should be banned than he in this thread.
I normally ignore stupid posts but this amuses me. The most childish thing, EVER to be said on the WHOLE INTERNET? Really? Your exaggeration skills are mighty.
Maybe if any of you had half he intellect of a bread loaf you'd recognize THIS IS NOT THE ONLY THING ROG HAS EVER SAID. I'd say more than 50% of his posts are nothing but insulting, offensive, ignorant, or straight out WRONG.
"You're an idiot." being an entire post in some cases. Wow. What a contributing post! Nothing but a direct flame, insulting someone's intellect without in any way following up with WHY he thinks they are.
Anyone who read it as "THIS POST ONLY IS WHY" I apologize to, I figured people would consider the poster. Saying "everyone who isn't god is garbage" has no purpose on a forum filled with normal people who may not live in their parent's basement unemployed and useless.
Yes, things that sound something like, "Your wrong, I'm right...you go die now!!!" has very little competition for the most childish things ever said award.
I have seen many of Rog's "You're an idiot" responses. While they have a jerk-ish sound about them, I have seen times when the person he responded to was doing something in a less productive or even a counter productive manner. From his perspective, he see's the guy as an idiot for wasting time, energy and rescources. That is his opinion and he is entitled to it. In some cases he is right, in others he is rude. Until it becomes a rule that on Zam everything must be sunshine and rainbows, I would defend anyones right to be crass. Also, in most cases(not all, but most) the reason someone is an idiot is self apparent. I have probably rated Rog down more than I have rated him up over the years, but 99% of the things he said was deserving of neither or so left them alone. If you find so many of his posts filled with such hate as you say, rate them down and move on. Replying over and over only gives him infamy.
That being said, I am of the opinion that we should all try to play nice with each other. If someone who you are interacting with isn't playing nice, then stop playing with them. By replying and continuing to play with that person, you will only serve to irritate the both parties as well as passerby's.
Kadarax wrote:
Dinishte wrote:
In over 100 Abyssea parties, I've seen -zero- burns of any kind.
What kind of Abyssea parties are you doing that don't at least tp burn?
A burn typically defined by using solely one form of damage. Physical damage/ weaponskills. Tp burn. Magic damage only. Mana or blm burn. Astral flow? Summoner burn. Abyssea parties are general versed enough to include various forms of damage.
In all early abyssea parties ive been in we have taken "turns" burning where you would have BLU's BLM's SCH's RDM's magic burning for a bit, then Melee DD TP burning for a bit. As abyysea became more evolved and shortly before I left this changed to, 3-4 nukers (usually a couple BLMs with a RDM, or a mix of SCH's BLMs with a RDM etc) Killing on their own, and a group of melee killing on their own. From what I gather this has evolved even further to 1-2 melee and 1-2 BLMs with support (rdm usually for BLM's and WHM with melee) killing things with AoE.
Ive yet to see or hear about free for all killing, whether or not your ally consists of a variety or not, you are still Burning mobs off one way or the other to get specific lights. Heck I used to nuke mamools on RDM, with 3DD's a Cor and a BRD. Just because I nuked to help kill things faster didn't change the fact we were a TP burn. (that is until I decided to just melee for more damage too lolT3 nukes)
Ive yet to see or hear about free for all killing, whether or not your ally consists of a variety or not, you are still Burning mobs off one way or the other to get specific lights. Heck I used to nuke mamools on RDM, with 3DD's a Cor and a BRD. Just because I nuked to help kill things faster didn't change the fact we were a TP burn. (that is until I decided to just melee for more damage too lolT3 nukes)
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blowfin wrote:
Fynlar wrote:
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The SAM forums will tell him the same thing if there are people in there with any sense it's filled with unnecessary elitism.
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You know what's funny? He actually went and asked in the SAM forums and they told him that Amano loses by a wide margin too. So are you calling everyone the SAM forums elitists now? Because it sure looks that way.
Edited, Dec 16th 2010 7:37pm by blowfin
Saying that Amano loses by a wide margin is not elitism, it's an accurate comparison of two items. Masa is clearly the better of the two. Amano isn't even the second best option, though it is still one of the hardest upgrade paths. Saying it is not worth it to upgrade Amano isn't elitist either if you are suggesting an easier/better alternative.
Saying "Amano is garbage" is Rog's attempt to give good advice. It just falls short of providing the actual good advice. Given enough prodding, you usually find Rog's snide posts are actually based on some truth, but it will take several more posts to get the useful info out of him. My suggestion to post on the SAM forums was for the OP to get down to the useful info without having to get into a Rogument to do it.
Saying "Sam without masamune is garbage as well" is elitist drivel.
I apologize if my previous post inadvertently triggered a Rogument of its own.
Well if speaking the truth is elitest sign me up!.
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Wonder Gem rdmcandie wrote:
Well if speaking the truth is elitest sign me up!.
Already did.
Palides wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Palides wrote:
It is not garbage. Just because a job doesn't hold the no. 1 damage slot does not make it garbage. I guess middle of the pack DD = garbage to you.
Maybe Mjolner. If the WHM has relic, then obviously the SAM can have Fudo, which would mean no.
WHM/NIN with a TP Bonus Makhila +2 and KC offhand with RR and Stout Arm atmas spamming Hexa Strike would certainly outdamage a fudo SAM.
Not saying that this is a good idea, just that it would outdamage a fudo SAM. But then even a THF can outdamage a fudo SAM so that's not saying much.
Dinishte wrote:
Wonder Gem rdmcandie wrote:
Palides wrote:
Wonder Gem rdmcandie wrote:
Pretty sure a RDM can out DD a sam, just saying.
If the RDM has Chant du Cygne perhaps, which again, you would compare to a SAM with Fudo, and again no.
Evisceration + RR says hello
And what dagger would they be using, Blau or is there something better?
Mandau?
Edited, Dec 17th 2010 3:37am by Lobivopis
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I thought of it first:
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
RamseySylph wrote:
They really ought to add Aftermaths to older Relic Weapons, just sayin'. Or just plain modify the WS to not suck.
They do have aftermaths, they just kinda suck compared to double damage proc.
What they should do is add "WS damage +30%" and increase the hidden "occasionally deals additional damage" effect to 33% by level 90 (relics have a 10% "additional damage" proc) Also change the ones that have additional effects to have something useful like the H2H and GS have. It's stupid that Spharai gets "Enhances Counter effect II, III and IV" while everything with an additional effect has it at the same proc rate and potency at lvl 90 that they had at lvl 75.
The 2H weapons should get some ATT and the 1H weapons should get some ACC.
Edited, Dec 17th 2010 5:44am by Lobivopis
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I thought of it first:
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#75REDACTED,
Posted: Dec 17 2010 at 4:42 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Really? Mandau is magically not a relic anymore? Oh right.. it is and we're comparing to NON RELIC.
Dinishte wrote:
Lobivopis wrote:
WHM/NIN with a TP Bonus Makhila +2 and KC offhand with RR and Stout Arm atmas spamming Hexa Strike would certainly outdamage a fudo SAM.
Not saying that this is a good idea, just that it would outdamage a fudo SAM. But then even a THF can outdamage a fudo SAM so that's not saying much.
Not saying that this is a good idea, just that it would outdamage a fudo SAM. But then even a THF can outdamage a fudo SAM so that's not saying much.
Really? You do realize with the cost of a Kraken Club you could EASILY buy help for like, 10 Empy weaps?
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