Preliminary Update Model ResultsFollow

We still use NIN tanks for a few rare fights (prefer PLD/NIN or PLD/RDM or no tank at all these days). Shortly after the new WHM JAs and spells came out, one of our NIN tanks discovered that the mini-stoneskin effect allowed him to cast his shadows nearly uninterrupted. He became addicted to it. I wasn't allowed to switch to Misery for Esuna, oh no. I *had* to use Solace 100% of the time and constantly spam cure IIs on him to keep him in a constant state of Stoneskin.

It became a running joke until he quit the game a few months ago. "WHERE'S MY STONESKIN *****CATWHO?!"

I'm still not quire sure whether I miss him or not.

Edit: Watch the new COR abilities be a job ability on a 5 minute recast that cuts the recast time for your next Phantom Roll in half, or something silly along those lines.

Edited, Jun 11th 2010 1:07am by catwho

Really looking forward to seeing some of these new BLU spells in action. Also, curious to see what that unknown ability does.

As for SCH's Libra ability, I remember hearing the devs mention SCH getting an ability or spell that would let them check party member's enmity levels; think this could be said ability?

Edited, Jun 11th 2010 1:50am by Zaeon

Mob mentality and wolfpacks kinda kill that logic.



Some people will complain about anything honestly.

Nah. Where there's smoke, there's fire. There's a reason the mob formed to begin with. You may not think it's a good reason. But there's a reason.

I saw these the other day (these actually been in the DAT file for awhile I think)

But as far as effect.....any possible idea what they'd do?

Obvisoually the last 3 are wind,earth and aqua based
But i never heard ignis....
[Edit]
Well according to this....ignis is fire.....
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ignis
Where's lightning and ice? :O
Edited, Jun 11th 2010 11:59am by Darkzeru

Edited, Jun 11th 2010 12:03pm by Darkzeru

Maybe a solid reason at the start, after that, it's more often lingering cruelty rather than rational dissent. It's like a politician caught sleeping around once--the stigma will follow him around afterward.

Like they all were DRK or DRG and not THF or NIN and were happy as raindrops that they are now wanted for merit parties! YAY! So when they see posts that self-justify their own believes, they press a button.

Or they all believe that CoP is still too genuinely hard. When they posts that self-justify their belief, guess which button they are pressing? And vice versa.

Uchitoru is absolutely right. There is a mob mentality on these forums. CoP changing thread was evident of it. Everyone who was in one camp got rated up, everyone else down. (Others than me within 5 seconds of posting.)

Best thing I learned was from Rog - don't care about it and say what you want. The vast majority of useful information I've seen on these forums doesn't come from Sages or Gurus. In fact, I assume anyone who is a Sage/Guru has no life and a ratebot to keep the one thing they hold dearest in life, e.g., the color of their name on an internet gaming fan forum, consistent.

Orrrrr...they get that by simply just putting up helpful information in a respectful manner that people deem as worthy of a rate up. As long as you post information in a well crafted and respectful way, there is no reason for someone to rate you down. I know I got my Guru status by posting useful information over in the Warrior forums (which they are very nice about rating people up for helping them out). I never posted to get Guru status, it just happened. Am I happy that people liked what I posted and thought I was polite and respectful while I did it? For sure.

Now thats not to say that people who are not Sage/Guru can not give just as good or better information. Rog is probably the number 1 guy to go to for any Rdm soloing (actually, I will say he has to be #1), but some people don't like the manner in which he posts and how blunt he can be. They may also hold a grudge against him for cheating. This will stick for as long as he posts. Unfortunately there is nothing he can do about it. Personally, he has helped me out numberous times with questions I have had and has done so in a very polite and respectful manner so I hold him in high regards. People have different personalities, and while some try to cater to the masses, others dont care and will post however they deem fit. And to be honest, thats perfectly fine. Just dont be upset when you get rated down as what you have posted may have rubbed the masses (aka "The Circle Jerk Crowd", aka "Every poster except for the people yelling about the circle jerk crowd") the wrong way.

Oh by the way, I have a full time job and 2 kids. Posting here in not my life (as you can see by my post count over 3+ years). Sorry, that qoute just kinda irritated me.

Edited, Jun 11th 2010 1:45pm by KWileyStyle

Doing a quick check of useful information I doubt your statement. I'm pretty sure people like rog are the exception because I'm having a harder time thinking of anyone else but rog that gives great info and has default karma. This is laregly contrasted by people like milich, tummie, kinematic, and melphina (to name a few) who give great info and yet have 'good' karma.

Also wouldn't post count be a better attribute to someone that cares about an internet forum? I'm not saying it does, but it would be a stronger argument than your sad attempt.

Oh, I don't know. I get rated down like mad since I tend to say things that I feel need to be said. But because of that whole CoP guide thing I'm sage4life.

Actually i'm not scholar because when i had ~1k posts kao nuked my karma to subscholar. Also having 17k posts makes it kind of hard for people to increase my karma.