Alumni wrote:
I vote NO Moogle in the Dunes, Selbina, or Mhaura. I like having to work for whatever I get in game. I don't want the game any easier than it currently is (which is pretty darned easy), thank you.
I really don't consider running from Dunes to Sandy to be a challenge, unless you count the challenge of not falling asleep. I find the run to Sandy to be pretty boring.
Alumni wrote:
What most of you who are complaining about the 'run to the dunes', etc., should do, imho, is one or more of the following:
It's the run back that's the problem. I just take a teleport there, so it's a short run to Dunes, but a long run back.
Alumni wrote:
a) Start in Windy so you will learn to be more resourceful and prepared when you venture out in the wilds. One learns to do that if you are from Windy because we value our 'privacy' and have chosen to locate further from the main killing fields, so to speak.
Prepared how? I like to do different things in game rather than park myself in an xp zone until I level my way out of it. I don't like being "stuck" somewhere. I can't usually warp home from dunes because with the rampant death in dunes parties I need to set my homepoint in Selbina.
Alumni wrote:
b) Come prepared - you KNOW you will be there for a bunch of levels so bring those spells, bring that new equipment, bring extra food and drink (or supplies to make them), arrange things to use your mule to AH stuff (or farm for long enough before you go that you don't need to check that with this character every day)
That excludes me from deciding to level a lower level job there for the night because I feel like it. I have to commit to several nights there on that job to do that. I'd rather be free to level my 14 BRD one night and my 58 BST the next.
Alumni wrote:
c) Level up to 15 solo in your home zones before you go to the dunes (makes it a one or two night trip at the most then).
Why make it any slower than it needs to be? The levels go faster in a party and are more interesting than slaughtering 50 million (slight exageration) DC mobs.
Alumni wrote:
d) Go to a different zone to level through those levels where the dunes has become the 'only place to be'. There are MANY more zones out there - get out of your shell and explore, be a true adventurer!
I can spend 40 minutes running back to town from Dunes or 2-3 hours trying to get enough people for a party in an alternative zone. I don't think there are as many people leveling lower jobs as there used to be (still a lot, just not quite as much), so it is more necessary for them to concentrate in a few areas to make party formation faster.
Alumni wrote:
e) Level up your main and get your choco license. Level up the job that needs to go to the dunes to 15 and then choco there. One way is therefore pretty fast, cheap, simple and safe (except for Windy folks who have to take the boat but we are a tough lot and can handle the extra difficulty!)
How do you get back? It takes level 20 to take the outpost warp home, so unless I park there until I hit 20, that's not an option. I'd warp back, but I like to set my HP in Selbina 'cause otherwise it's such a pain when people die. Closest choco is Dem/Holla but requires level 20 again.
Alumni wrote:
You can do it, all by yourself, kupo! :)
The trip there is fine, level 15 chocos from starting cities or teleport are fine options. The trip back takes a long time for no particular reason. I'd like to see a teleport or choco that was useful for getting from dunes to a major city that was accessible no later than level 15.
I actually think the isolation encourages PLs. People don't want to set their HP in Selbina because it takes so long to run back and you lose the warp option, np, the PL can raise you. The run back doesn't hurt the PLs 'cause they can just warp back to Jeuno. Oh, I need new armor now that I leveled, hey, buddy, can you bring me some, o btw, since you are here and bored, you want to PL my party for a bit.
The isolation certainly discourages me from leveling lower level jobs. I like to get on and then decide what I feel like doing for the night. I usually log off in a city so that no matter what I feel like doing next, I'm not too far away. The run back knocks out a lot of time. If I also have to mule equipment for that job, I'm most likely not going to level it.