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After reading some of these posts, I sense that people see the Complete Heal cleric get as a great gift. But I have never used it, in small groups ( 2 or 3 ) or bigger ( 6). I use the the smaller heal, and I never gain aggro that way, I conserve mana, and I find that people just do not die. It also allows me mana for immobilize if we get adds. And now that I have remedy ( which is nice quicky heal for soloing ) I use it also. Am I missing something here? I have been away from the game for awhile, so any comments would be appreciated.

Judging by your sig you have a 54 cleric. Up to 55 you will only need minor heals my shammy can heal for a max of 2k and has no trouble with the normal gambit of mobs and then...... the Plane of Valor comes into play. Mobs hit for 508 and have lots hof hit points. Tanks get chewed up and spit out left and right. You definately need CH heal if you are healer there in fact you won't really have the chance to use much else but that.

oh yeah and you don't get your 96% rez till 56 so you won't bee popular till then

Irony is, I rarely cheal. Most nights I run with 4 heals loaded:

Heal over Time: Pious Elixir - Increase Hitpoints v2 by 1170 per tick (4 ticks/890 mana)
Quick Heal: Pious Remedy - Increase Hitpoints by 1990 (1.75 seconds/496 mana)
Cheal: Complete Healing - Increase Hitpoints by 7500 (10 seconds/400 mana)
Big Heal: Pious Light - Increase Hitpoints by 3770 (3.75 seconds/740 mana)

Heal over Time is extended by Spelling Casting Reenforcment (+Mastery) and Focus.
Direct heals lots of AA (and crit AA) and Focus.
And Mana Pres V
And Spell Haste V, and 10% Cleric Haste.
So.. nothing costs exactly that, takes exactly that or heals for exactly that.

But.. basically.. in places where MOB damage on the tank is spikey (like Omens-land with all the blasted procs), I lead with Pious Elixir as the tank engages. Any time I see 75%, patch with Quick Heal. Any time I see 50%, patch with Big Heal, any time I see 25% Divine Arbitration.

Maybe cast 1 cheal an hour. 10 Seconds is a long time.. if the Random Number Generator is such that the tank is going down, it could happen really fast.

Most of the time, even in Riftseekers, Acursed Nest, DoDH spell arcs, etc.. I patch once or twice (or none) and we can drop mobs in the time of the (extended) Heal over Time.

Less deaths to "two bad rounds in a row" = more productive time and goodies.

Edit: Spelled out RNG so you don't think I mean Ranger *winks*

Edited, Wed Dec 14 13:11:37 2005 by Felicite

Fel, thanks for that post. Very informative. We are a small guild on Zek, so not sure if we will do some of the harder places in EQ, but nice to have some info so i do not have to rez my party :)

At 65 I find myself using CH less and less.

I always have a HoT up on the tank, and I usually use my larger heal over a Cheal. The reason is casting efficency. If the damage output being dealt to the tank is pretty evenly spread out, I'll Cheal, it's much more mana effiencent.

If we are dealing with a mob that procs, quads, flurries and rampages..then I'll switch to 2k heals.

Seems to change based on the situation.



Cheal is only good when the tank can survive for 10 seconds after the cast. If they are having trouble doing this, then the cleric will have to switch to quiker heals, which means more mana usage and more down time.

For most of the planes, dropping a HoT and using CHeal is sufficient with a decen tank. Might need to throw in a spam heal or two from time to time however.

Edited, Wed Dec 14 13:42:06 2005 by Frakkor

I've found that when I 2 box my 66 warrior and my wife's 65 cleric that I will go through SIGNIFICANTLY less mana if I use CHeal exclusively.

If I forget to get KEI for the cleric, I can still go through a complete Creator DoN mission using CHeal and not have to stop the group for a med break and she never goes below 40 - 50% mana. Granted, she just sits there on her mount and only heals - no stuns, nukes, etc.

When my wife is playing her cleric she will use CHeal on me exclusively and use smaller heals or HoTs for others, if needed and she never asks for a med break unless we are chain pulling.

On a side note, as a MT I prefer the use of well timed Cheals becuase it allows me to beserk and do some impressive damage with Crippling Blows. That's a fine line to walk but with the healer sitting right next to me and being able to see when the spell is going to go off (i.e. I can see her casting bar), it's not as scary as trusting someone across the country or world =)

Just my thoughts...
~Kreigs

... and for the record our toons aren't uber - I only have 9k hp buffed and she has a rather modest 4k-ish mana pool

CHeal is incredibly mana efficient, just not applicable in all zones.

It's one of my favorite spells and it really changes the class when you can finally scribe it.

Very true and a great point.

When MTing a raid, CHeal chains are a the norm ... but there are times when chain heals of the smaller, faster casting heals is absolutely neccesary to keep a tank up and soaking damage becuase of the sheer volume of DPS being put out by a mob.

Then there are other zones/camps where a CHeal is simply overkill, like camping murks in NC - a HoT or one of the smaller heals is all I need for a fight.

Healing is all relative to the situation. Like someone already said - if no one dies, then you're doing your job right =)

~Kriegs

/em revokes Frak's Healer Of The Month award

/evil grin

~Kriegs

Wow, great stuff.../em brain hurts from all the knowledge, should have added more int items to handle all this.

i never used it until around 47 when i was in a hole group...pulled like half the zone on us, and i had to use it like 10 times in 1 fight..but hey..it was fun...we all died, but who cares :-D

During exp grinds (Riftseekers or the Nest) I tend to chain CH's and duck out if the tank is still above 70%. I also chain Yaulp for hours on end, avoiding sitting as much as possible.

I manage my mana closely, and the chain CH's from my experiences keep my mana bar very full for when I NEED to switch to blasting fast heals.

I seldom HoT, with the exception of the aa HoT during the moments of incoming excitement.

<edit> on a side note, I also /stopcast then arb and epic arb very quicky for those moments when say a tank at 65% with 5 secs left on the CH drops to 30% in one round.

Edited, Thu Dec 15 03:16:13 2005 by Jaddrielle