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#1 Nov 26 2005 at 12:45 AM Rating: Decent
I don't like grinding. (Who does?) I don't like taking partial groups unless we're out for a specific item for wearing or a quest. It's as slow as ever (except for the LDoN peak months) for sitting around 6 hours and getting nothing on LFG. (Not counting the one DoD group that ignored my "No DoD" tagline, talked me into buying it, and ended up getting me a nice item.) So I'm stuck either soloing, which I can't seem to do without finding some fearable animal for XP, farming giants for cash, or tradeskills that take drop-only components or more components than I can spare money to undertake.

What would you guys who have been around for the past few expansions suggest I do before I switch back from All Access to Planetside only? :) (The only expansion I don't have currently is DoN.)
#2 Nov 30 2005 at 3:45 PM Rating: Decent
I've been on a couple times hunting groups since I originally posted this - the only thing that found me a group was an OOC conversation about how hard it is to put together full groups anymore. What is it with the state of the game that LFG is useless and OOC is effective again? (Or am I going about this the wrong way, should leave my mostly defunct guild of four years, and find a new guild?)
#3 Nov 30 2005 at 7:28 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't like grinding.

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I don't like taking partial groups unless we're out for a specific item for wearing or a quest.

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What is it with the state of the game that LFG is useless and OOC is effective again? (Or am I going about this the wrong way, should leave my mostly defunct guild of four years, and find a new guild?)


Everquest may not be the game for you. I am not being sarcastic. Everquest is a grind and the population is low enough that many people play more than one account because there are no groups.

Unless you are in a stable guild, Everquest is not a new or returning player-friendly game.
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#4 Nov 30 2005 at 8:21 PM Rating: Decent
If your Magelo is reasonably up to date, I'd consider either getting DoD, grinding cash or even de-levelling ... seems 60+ (hell, 45+ .. some folks are about that clued-in) rangers are expected to have eq, am3 and an elemental bow. Not kidding, half the groups I've been in from 46-58 thought I needed to learn about "rangers + bows."
#5 Nov 30 2005 at 9:50 PM Rating: Decent

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I've been on a couple times hunting groups since I originally posted this - the only thing that found me a group was an OOC conversation about how hard it is to put together full groups anymore. What is it with the state of the game that LFG is useless and OOC is effective again? (Or am I going about this the wrong way, should leave my mostly defunct guild of four years, and find a new guild?)


.. unfortunately this is the current state of the game. The casual population is gone so the casual group is gone. The only thing you can do is join a family guild. When people start groups they always start in guild first.

DoDh is easy xp and easy groups. I really dont like them and apparently you dont either but its a way to atleast get something done.


As a previos poster said eq may not be the game for you. In its current state it is mostly about raiding and that is most of the population that is left. Being able to log on and get something done in the style and location that you choose is why WoW has 5 times as many players as eq and may be a better situation for you.


Good Luck.
#6 Nov 30 2005 at 9:55 PM Rating: Decent
As far as soloing this would take a little work. Ranger soloing at its best involves bow kiting. First you need to stop tsing and spend your plat on a planar bow. Also stop leveling and start working your bow aa's.

Once you have a decent bow and eq/am3 there are alot of places you can go to root/shoot. Remember eq is not a solo game and unless you are one of the classes that specializes in soloing your xp return will usually be extremely poor.

#7 Dec 01 2005 at 2:01 AM Rating: Decent
I'm thinking I'll have to find a new guild, then. My Magelo profile is way out of date, and almost all of that gear has been upgraded. I bought a ton of stuff with my leftover cash to get my gear up to date, and I have every expansion other than DoN. I've already seen the XP I get for DoD, so those groups will be a priority when I can find groups at all.

I'll have to find a guide on ranger soloing, then, unless it really is as simple as root+bow. Would you recommend DoD or regular grinding for churing out the archery AAs?

And for random useless information, I've played since two weeks into retail, so I'm pretty sure EQ is a right game for me, there just aren't any right players for me. :) That also means I have all the veteran rewards - anything special I can do with those other than doubling my experience just in time to die and recovering my corpse and XP just before logging off for about the length of that timer? :)

And... WoW? No thanks. I actually liked SWG (pre-NGE) better than WoW, and I never could find good groups in that game. I'd go back to AO first, even. (Yes, I've played or betaed pretty much every game in the genre. You can guess why I come back to EQ. :) ) I had the same problem finding groups in WoW, and I tended not to get very high level before becoming bored with a character. (And that's not to be confused with systems where only the top level means anything - I tend not to like PvP, and I'd pick Planetside over DAoC any day. :) )

Edited, Thu Dec 1 02:05:01 2005 by CLU
#8 Dec 01 2005 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
I think finding a new family guild is a good idea.
#9 Dec 01 2005 at 1:44 PM Rating: Decent
Run the dbl exp and steadfast servant together. Half hour each and every night, I'd go for AAs. The servant should keep you alive. Invest ih HoT elixirs if needed. Remeber you have staunch and expedient recovery, bind in GH, etc. etc.

Hopefully you got your HP to 5K with the new gear. You were also under AC'd and your atk was low.

I'd consider doing Noc/Ukun/Kyv in DS to get to the point you could do the Tier 1 armor quest. Personally, I've only done the leather, but the armor is pretty good and family guild doable with ease.

Grinding is pretty much a fact of life in EQ untill you get true raid gear.
#10 Dec 01 2005 at 8:51 PM Rating: Decent
"Grinding is pretty much a fact of life in EQ untill you get true raid gear."

I got a few levels just from LDoNs, and I never considered that grinding. Nothing along those lines of "entertaining" is good XP anymore?
#11 Dec 02 2005 at 6:47 AM Rating: Decent
DoN missions are good (not great, not risk-free, but good imo) xp and about as entertaining as LDoNs ... until you hit 'creator burnout', try to find folks that are interested in doing a variety of em.
#12 Dec 02 2005 at 6:37 PM Rating: Decent
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"Grinding is pretty much a fact of life in EQ untill you get true raid gear."


..... actually grinding is a fact of life after getting raid gear.
#13 Dec 03 2005 at 5:58 AM Rating: Decent
All depends on what you consider grinding. If you only consider it grinding if you're sitting at one camp and not if you're crawling through a zone (ldon, don, etc), there are plenty of non-grind ways to go.

Edited, Sat Dec 3 15:19:18 2005 by Brewnoe
#14 Dec 03 2005 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Everquest may not be the game for you. I am not being sarcastic. Everquest is a grind and the population is low enough that many people play more than one account because there are no groups.


I disagree with this, 100%. There are plenty of groups out there. The populations are not low at all, in fact, they are quite stable, especially with the server merge.

As a 65 ranger, which is a good DPS class, he can get a group quickly. Just make sure you have EQ, AM3 and a good bow.
#15 Dec 04 2005 at 9:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I disagree with this, 100%. There are plenty of groups out there. The populations are not low at all, in fact, they are quite stable, especially with the server merge.


.. I guess every server is different. It has been my experience that any groups you build outside of your guild these days are both vary rare and usually pretty crappy.
#16 Dec 06 2005 at 8:34 AM Rating: Excellent
Since you've mentioned that you hate grinding, soloing as a 65+ Ranger is a mistake. It can be done, and works o.k. at times for AA's (forget about trying to make the regular exp bar move), but you'll get experience much faster in groups. As has been mentioned, do nothing else until you have your base archery AA's. Even at 62, before I had all of them, I had difficulty getting groups. At 65 you'd be the bottom of the barrel when selecting group members.

The best thing I ever did was to join a casual raiding guild. It might take a while, but if you start grouping and keep your eyes open, you'll find one eventually.

It might sound obvious to some, but the key to enjoying EQ is finding people you enjoy playing with and that have similar schedules. Otherwise, you might as well just stick to single-player RPGs.

Edited, Tue Dec 6 08:38:54 2005 by Gladestrider
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