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#27 Mar 08 2004 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Gbaji:

Yes. Used with brain in bucket at door it could be quite dangerous. Used with a modicum of sense it is fairly safe.

As a cleric I very rarely want to assist the MA. I have a bank of "tank" buttons and pick the relevant ones for the raid. All they do is /target <name>. It is quite sad looking through some of the old ones at the names of people who have left the game. using these I can reacquire a tank very fast. If I need assist then my /assist key does it.
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#28 Mar 08 2004 at 7:24 PM Rating: Good
I have seen more mobs use the shield command than I have MA's. More's the pity.

It seems to be one very much underestimated tool.

Regarding assist.

Iluien has only one assist button, plain and simple /assist [who ever is MA] As he is always DPS only these days he has no need of anything else.

Both Celeni and Aesten have three, plain /assist - for checking mob targets, and used rarely. /assist [who ever is MA] and used for nukes, stuns, snares etc very frequently. And /assist [who ever is Puller] for assist targeting the mobs to be Pacified.

Babastina has been exiled to the Abysmal Sea and no longer remembers anything about hot buttons.
#29 Mar 08 2004 at 7:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Does anyone else find that various targetting methods seem buggy in some zones? There are times when I am mashing my "assist" button, then try F8, with the engaged mob about 2 feet in front of me and I get nothing.

Trying to even see my cursor when there's a lot of movement on my screen is tough enough, let alone trying to click on a mob surrounded by a group/raid.

It's frustrating, to say the least.
#30 Mar 08 2004 at 8:15 PM Rating: Good
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Does anyone else find that various targetting methods seem buggy in some zones? There are times when I am mashing my "assist" button, then try F8, with the engaged mob about 2 feet in front of me and I get nothing.

Trying to even see my cursor when there's a lot of movement on my screen is tough enough, let alone trying to click on a mob surrounded by a group/raid.

It's frustrating, to say the least.



Turn down the graphics you are using. Turn off spell effects. Lower the resolution rate. Reduce the graphics detail level. Turn off the sky. Turn off particle effects. Turn down your clip plane.

Do some or all of these until you reduce your lag to a reasonable rate. If you are getting "cursor float", then you've got too much stuff turned on. This can be disasterous.

Um... Filtering chat messages (with /serverfilter on if that still even exists) will often fix some targeting slowness. All the stuff that involves updates of info from the server to you client use the same "pipe" that your chat channels do. If you're getting hordes of chat, this can cause a delay in things like mob position, health updates, and targetting. This goes double obviously if you're on a slow network connection. Note that in this case, filtering to another chat box doesn't matter. It's the very fact that the data is traveling to your computer that causes the slowness. You have to actually go into your filters and turn them off for you to see a benefit.


You'll have to fiddle with your own settings, and the specifics of each computer and network connection will have different "ideal" settings. You just need to find yours. You should always have crisp mouse movement, and reasonably fast targetting and health update speeds. If you're getting noticable delays in any of that, you need to look at changing something on your client to speed things up.
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#31 Mar 08 2004 at 8:42 PM Rating: Decent
all of what ghaji said + a few other things.

yes there are times the F8 (q for me) will not work properly. it is just buggy that way at times.

one more thing you can do to help pick the target if it is near you (as you stated 2ft away) switch the camera view to overhead. this will alow you to pick with the mouse the exact mob you want to target.
#32 Mar 08 2004 at 10:51 PM Rating: Good
As Singdal said switching to overhead camera can be an excellent quick fix to video overload.

The other method that I use more often when healing (as opposed to CC) is simply punch PageDown untill I'm looking at my feet.

As healer I do not need the cursor to target, (even in multigroup situations), but staring at my feet instantly frees the cursor so that I can use my favourite "left hand punching key board" "right hand fumbling mouse" technique.

However in reality when healing or nuking there is no need to use the mouse cursor at all.

With properly set up hot buttons to assist and target you can heal anyone in your group and nuke anything that someone in your group is attacking.

When called upon to patch heal people in another raid group I make up targeting buttons with their names on them, then all you have to do is cycle through them to monitor health.

WARNING.

The only problem with habitualy staring at your feet, is getting left behind when the group moves. There are some group leaders who seem to be very forgetful about calling when to move up.

I once had a MA die because of this. After using a large amount of mana to deal with some adds one time, I was sitting medding and still happened to be looking at the ground. Next thing I see is the MA health falling at a fast rate. I jump up to heal to find I'm all alone.

I then ran madly around in circles trying to find everyone while watching the MA's health bar drain and turn purple. Eventually someone got my message that I wasn't there to heal, but it was too late.

#33 Mar 09 2004 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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You should always have crisp mouse movement
I do actually. It's not that the cursor isn't moving. It's that with say, 4 or 5 people, their pets, and the mob(s) all moving around on my screen it just takes me a while to see where it is. I need new glasses so my vision isn't optimal at the moment.

My spell effects are off most of the time, my computer is fast as is my connection. The only places I have noticable lag is in the bazaar and PoK when it's crowded.

I'm a sucker for eye candy, so if I have to ruin the already so- so visuals of the game to make it play properly Smiley: mad

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll do a bit of tweaking and see if it helps.

Edited, Tue Mar 9 10:56:31 2004 by Yanari
#34 Mar 09 2004 at 2:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Couple comments to add to the thread, and answer a few things brought up.

Someone mentioned that hitting attack will not target anything. A while back, though, in a patch, sony made the default attack key also default to targetting the nearest mob. Lot of people found out the hard way, when trying to attack changed their targets. I changed that in my set-up as soon as I found out about it.

/shield Can be very useful when used right. However, since it's rarely needed, hitting /shield hasn't become reflex like hitting taunt. It can save the cleric or chanter's life (if they are close enough...which unfortunately, they're usually not. Most of the time I've had need of this skill is when we've had an add) And yes, /shield <name> does work. In my mid-30's to mid-40's there was a cleric I grouped with a lot, who liked to melee and pretend he was a paladin. I hotkeyed a shield with his name on it. :lol: I've also seen it used when there were two warriors in the group (rare) and cleric was oom, and second warrior couldn't get aggro fast enough...second warrior /shields MT, which saves him enough damage to finish out the fight.
#35 Mar 09 2004 at 5:12 PM Rating: Decent
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It's not that the cursor isn't moving. It's that with say, 4 or 5 people, their pets, and the mob(s) all moving around on my screen it just takes me a while to see where it is.


I have the same problem. A more readily visible mouse cursor would seem to be the fix. Does anyone know of a way to change the color of the cursor to perhaps a neon green or other stand-out color?
#36 Mar 10 2004 at 3:25 AM Rating: Decent
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I've seen a couple UI's that have a more noticeable cursor. Maybe eqinterface.com has a way to change out JUST the cursor of your current UI?

Except for the 'chanter and possibly the tank, most targetting can be done without the mouse (via /assist, or the F-keys for casting on group members), which saves a ton of time and aggravation. I personally can't figure out how a chanter manages to individually target all the mobs that need to be mezzed, and bow to the reflexes of all the good chanters out there who can do it.
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