Sami, ON, Cal, and any resident board Uber players =)Follow

as you may have read in the weekend update, We (Shards of Chaos) attempted Manaetic Behemoth with 65 or so players and got wiped....

Can you share Strats on how you all killed his bugger with fewer people? i would like some revenge on this SoB.....

He seems harder than he is. That said, I really hate that encounter, and basically don't touch it with a 20 foot pole unless I have no choice at all.

Anyways, I'm sure you know how to spawn him- I organize groups to be durable versus AE's moreso than straight assault groups. There's not collision detection with the walls, so note that there's no benefit from people trying to duck or anything, the only difference in getting hit by AE's is range. BUT, his range is short, it's very possible to be casting while staying outside his AE's.

There's 2 different ways to handle spiders. One is have a couple smart bards train them all. I don't like that method because I don't like depending on any one person. Personally, I had a few enchanters on either door leading into his room just chain color stunning. The spiders aren't resistant really, and a few enchanters can lock them up pretty easily and make sure none enter and 5k you all, just provided it doesn't go on very long.

Manaetic behemoth -randomly- choses one AE to be his ae for the fight on a recycle, and one ae that will be PROC'D. The difference is significant. This means one AE will go off a couple times whenever he swings, and another is just gonna be on a minute cycle or so. This makes the behemoth fight VERY random, as you can get a DoT that is chain proc'd and just raw damage, or you could get -silence- chain proc'd, or even gas vent as an interrupt or something. Basically you should really buff all resists, but plan that clerics inside the room would be silenced/interrupted. For that reason, I think it's pretty moronic to charge with all your casters. AE ranges are mostly 100ish, so if you have clerics with extended range items, just stand outside range and dump supernal remedies. His melee is nothing. You can just dump remedies and easily keep up with ae's and his melee with a few clerics. On the other hand, if the clerics charge, chances are they are just all gonna die right off the bat, will be total chaos, and behemoth will run around ganking people with low health aggro. HOLD PEOPLE BACK. Keep clerics far outside AE, dumping remedies, keep wizards back, just getting targets, and melee rush and use offensive discs right off. Have a warrior that goes first use fortitude, to give you a few seconds to latch onto him, then evasive after (some procs fire on misses/da's, this is not one of them). Same with a second tank sucking up rampage. Behemoth has no health, so really as long as you control the fight, he just isn't that dangerous. If you don't control it, then his AE's get a chance to devestate you, and you'll all die. Just don't put yourself in a position where he will move around a lot, charging randomly, etc.

CC is the key to success. if you have good CC then he is a cake walk.

ive been on raids with as little of 30 ppl and taken him out. in fact thats how my nec got his poi flag.

then last raid i was on we had 72ppl and had a full wipe and took close to 4hrs time. big waist of time as ppl just did not listen to enstructions.

hahahahhaha...they good for somethin then i guess?

This guy would still be a pain without the spiders. 4 enchanters could literally hold them down forever. 2 could probably do it for a long, long time. I've personally never been 4k'd by a spider and my record agains the guy is probably 5 wins 10 losses. Like Calimyr said, the sheer randomness and the lack of collisions makes this guy as difficult as he is.

30 elemental/time people might not have a problem, but if you actually need the flag, bring 70.

the key to this raid if you have all the above (the CC, the resist buffs, the DPS and the AoE heals) is discipline. the reason so many open MB raids fail is cause theres always somone who does something stupid. i have done this guy 4 times, 3 times with open raid and once with guild. the first failure was because someone had a pet up which agroed MB when he used his AoE and brought MB running right into all the casters. the second time everyone jumped in before assist was called and the third time we killed him but someone trained the gnome hand in guy who promptly died so we couldnt get the flag. the fourth time i raided him with the guild i am currently trialing for and we took him down easily cause the guys in the guild were all disciplined and did as they were told, the MT got good agro before calling assist and everyone waited for assist to be called before jumping in.

I don't think there's a maybe about that particular trick- they mispath and poof, and 'Using a pathing error to your advantage' isn't a big grey area to a lot of GMs.