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#77 Jan 29 2004 at 6:41 PM Rating: Default
better kick the dog instead ;)
#78 Jan 29 2004 at 7:07 PM Rating: Good
Hmm, well as any one who has read my posts over the past couple of years would know I am a "mature" male, who by coincidence as much as anything ended up with a couple of female characters. One of whom is now at a highish level.

I have a good ingame friend (also somewhat aged) who, due to some guild bulletin board posts, I happen to know looks remarkabely like Gerry Garcia. (If you know what Gerry Garcia of Greatful Dead fame looked like in his later years.)

He has recently taken to calling me "hun" (in game of course), I have to admit it startled me the first time, had me wondering if he had somehow forgotten who I was, or was pulling my leg perhaps.

Now I just chuckle and bat my eyelashes at him.
#79 Jan 29 2004 at 10:03 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah. Um... Guys. It's called "roleplaying". As in "playing a role". It's not really much of an accomplishment if the role you play is always exactly like you. You aren't a druid, or cleric, or necromancer in real life, right? Why the hell should you be restricted to playing only the same sex? The whole point of roleplaying is to be something other then what you are...

I guess I've been playing RPGs for so long, that I don't even think about it. I have tons of characters, both male and female. I chose the sex of the character based on the personality I want to play. Same applies to EQ.

In general, the only people who get worried about such things are those who are so uptight about their own sexuality that they are afraid they might slip and reveal something. If you're that uncomfortable about yourself that you're afraid that if it turns out that the female character in EQ you were flirting with is played by a man you might worry that you are "gay" or got "cooties" or some other silliness, then the problem is with you, not the people who are actually roleplaying.


I just generally feel that those who bluster on about "I'm a manly man", and make a big deal about anything even slightly feminine or "gay" around them are probably those who are most insecure or unsure about themselves. If you really were comfortable about your own sexuality, you wouldn't be bothered by any actions taken in a roleplaying game, no matter how "gay" they seem. Heck. I've roleplayed gay characters before. It's a hell of a lot of fun actually...


I guess I'm just trying to say: Lighten up. It's a game. It's sad enough that the world is full of prejudiced and bigoted people. Why on earth deliberately bring that crap into a game? That's just dumb...
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#80 Jan 29 2004 at 10:06 PM Rating: Decent
dtrosen wrote:
I dont mind or care if a guy "rolls/plays" a female character - its when they "ROLEPLAY" the character as female.. thats just a bit off .. If I hear one more female character call me "Hun" or emote a kiss after I heal them im gonna kick my cat!

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If you have problems with players who RP their characters, then suck it up and move on. If you see a male character try to court with a female character--or vice versa--then don't fret about it. It's called RP'ing!
#81 Jan 29 2004 at 10:08 PM Rating: Decent
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You're right. I don't agree with what I call "hate speech" and I will encourage people to stop it.

It's not because I don't understand it. It's because I do.
#82 Jan 29 2004 at 10:18 PM Rating: Good
Yanari wrote:
You're right. I don't agree with what I call "hate speech" and I will encourage people to stop it.

It's not because I don't understand it. It's because I do.


I don't like the "hate speech" either. In fact, it's not encouraged in the Soldiers of Tunare guild in Terris-Thule.
#83 Jan 30 2004 at 12:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Due to this conversation thread I recently started a new character, who happens to be a female monk. I name her Erynn (after Farscape's Aaron Suun (sp)). Why does every female character have to be role-played as a eye batting, wilting flower. I loved the character in Farscape, and although hardly a role model, thought this type of personality would be really fun to play.

Just out of curiousity, do any RL female player role-play this type of a character?
#84 Jan 30 2004 at 2:59 AM Rating: Good
Aeleni, who is not often spoken of within the Fearnought family is as hard as nails.

Some might even say a veritable nut cracker Smiley: smile

Whereas Celeni has become moderately famous for her healing ways, Aeleni would rather crack you across the back of the head with her Staff of the Earthcrafter.

Typical redhead in fact.Smiley: smile
#85 Jan 30 2004 at 3:29 AM Rating: Decent
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I am a female and I play male characters.

Why you might ask?

Well, my first 2 toons are female. One a Human Warrior and the other a Wood Elf Druid.

The reason I quit making female toons is that I quite frankly got sick and tired of getting "pick up" tells. It is so bad that I can't be in PoK with my Druid for more then 5 minutes without someone sending me one. I, quite frankly, got tired of having to respond that I am probably old enough to be these guys mom and that I am not interested.

I do not have this problem with my male toons. On the whole that makes playing much more enjoyable for me.

BTW, I do tell people that it is a female behind the mouse.
#86 Jan 30 2004 at 6:10 AM Rating: Default
Valzarius Defender of Justice wrote:
Just out of curiousity, do any RL female player role-play this type of a character?


Since my most used hotbutton was a social makro that did for people who inspected me:
"Hey what are YOU staring at?"
/snarl

AND I acted on FV as I do here - I was seldom called "hun", "sweetheart" or hugged *lol*

Compared to that the roleplay of RL males playing a female toon is called "gay" quite often I played my gal certainly very "lesbian" *lol*

But with RL females no one minds what they do - funny though.
#87 Jan 30 2004 at 7:18 PM Rating: Decent
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I just saw this from Vaanan
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Sorry for offending you all


Apology accepted.
#88 Feb 02 2004 at 2:41 AM Rating: Default
Yanari wrote:
I just saw this from Vaanan
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Sorry for offending you all


Apology accepted.


My apology does not mean I changed my opinion about the subject in question.Smiley: grin

My apology was intended to help us move on from this subject on to more interesting things about EQ. Personally, people who are gay and insist on being treated as a minority group are highly offensive. Being gay is not something you can't change. It is a lifestyle choice. Being black or hispanic is something that cannot be changed. I left a guild because a young person was making disparaging comments about hispanics because I said "Hola" in guild chat. My spouse happens to be both hispanic and black. So after cautioning this person several times about his nasty hateful speech, I took great offense at this little person's comments and left the guild. I felt if there were people like that in this particular guild, then I wanted no part of it. While leaving the guild might seem a little extreme to some, you had to have been there to see what exactly was said. Highly offensive things were said in guild chat. Many officers were present and none said anything in guild chat to discourage the speech.
My point is that I am not the biggot that some seem to think. I just think that gays are quite mixed up and to be pitied.

As I have said before, my main is a 50th level female Paladin, I am male. I'm not gay, I just like to roleplay different characters. Most of my other toons are male, because that is what I had in mind for them when I made the character. It's just that simple. I enjoy roleplaying, and the bigger the challenge, the better for me.

So here is my most recent post on this subject, I am sure I will get flamed on this post as well. At least I am not calling people all sorts of nasty names like Leiany's buddy Zaphado was.Smiley: yikes
Just kidding, Leiany about Zaphado being your buddy.

Edited, Mon Feb 2 07:42:03 2004 by Vaanan
#89 Feb 02 2004 at 3:39 AM Rating: Default
Vaanan wrote:
Just kidding, Leiany about Zaphado being your buddy.
Actually I got no idea at the moment who zaphado is *grin*
#90 Feb 02 2004 at 8:18 AM Rating: Decent
does playing as male/female have any effect on the gameplay itself? e.g. fewer hitpoints/lower max strength for females traded off with more mana/faster recovery rate/more stamina maybe???
#91 Feb 02 2004 at 10:12 AM Rating: Default
NO - and for gods sake it never will!
#92 Feb 02 2004 at 10:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Vaanan wrote:


Being gay is not something you can't change. It is a lifestyle choice.


Although I disagree with Vaanan, as a gay male, I will give him several points for being extremely adult and professional in expressing his viewpoints. It is a common societal misperception that being homosexual is a lifestyle choice, an act that a person consciously makes. For the record being homosexual is genetic and can normally be traced within the family tree. It is also not uncommon that it skips a generation.

This forum is about EQ and this subject matter has been pretty well talked to death. Time to get on with other matters.... I would invite Vaanan and any other interested parties to do a little library research on the subject. You seem to be a highly intellegent and introspective individual. Some of the research may surprise you.
#93 Feb 02 2004 at 2:07 PM Rating: Default
Leiany wrote:
Vaanan wrote:
Just kidding, Leiany about Zaphado being your buddy.
Actually I got no idea at the moment who zaphado is *grin*


Zaphado was the kid in the post called OMG READ THIS!! who claimed that as a shaman he was better than all the tanks he had ever seen, and he was asking questions about playing his shaman. When he received answers to his questions, he became quite abusive to the people who answered him.

Post edited by request.
Edited, Mon Feb 2 14:09:47 2004 by Vaanan

Edited, Wed Feb 4 17:45:35 2004 by Vaanan

Edited, Wed Feb 4 22:35:26 2004 by Vaanan

Edited, Wed Feb 4 22:36:50 2004 by Vaanan
#94 Feb 02 2004 at 2:16 PM Rating: Default
Thx Vanaan

Edited, Tue Feb 10 02:23:40 2004 by Leiany
#95 Feb 02 2004 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
I haven't played the game at all so I don't know most of the things you can do in it. How much of the stuff like dancing and kissing other characters is part of the game? (i.e. programmed in by the designers as animations.) and how much of it has arisen by convention among gamers? Like the emoticons in text?

Was this level of interaction there at the beginning of everquest? Or did it come in during the various expansions of EQ?
#96 Feb 02 2004 at 9:07 PM Rating: Default

Smiley: smile

Edited, as requested.



Edited, Wed Feb 4 22:37:32 2004 by Vaanan
#97 Feb 03 2004 at 4:28 AM Rating: Default
please do :)
#98 Feb 03 2004 at 4:31 AM Rating: Default
desomahony wrote:
I haven't played the game at all so I don't know most of the things you can do in it.
Get a copy and start playing -otherwise you'd be just like a catholic priest doing a study on the sexuality of married couples *lol*
#99 Feb 03 2004 at 7:22 PM Rating: Decent
dunno about that. You should see some of the things catholic priests have gotten up to over the last couple of years where I live :)
#100 Feb 03 2004 at 7:29 PM Rating: Default
please do take this personal and stop answering in such a retarded fashion. If you haven't got more to counter my arguments than this kind of there's-always-an-exception-to-the-rule ******** you better return to doing research on "Bob the Builder".

BTW I don't care in what a perverted corner of the world you live and what your fellow creeps there do in their spare time.
#101 Feb 03 2004 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
i 2box, 1 account is all male toons, the other female. it is nice to have them paired off that way, like nature intended, male with female.
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