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#27 Jan 21 2004 at 12:12 AM Rating: Decent
I too have noticed this, although a bit less than in the past.

I started playing EQ shortly after Velious, and quit before Luclin. My WORST problems were KSing druids, and whiney rangers (Hence my basic premise that all bullies play druids, and every 6 year old wants to be robin hood and picks a ranger NOTE I'm not insinuating that all druids KS and all rangers beg, just in a year of playing EQ EVERY TIME I WAS KSed it was a Druid....with some variation of the name Drizzt generally. Anyone remember a time when you could heal someones mob? Yup these slimey white wolfs did that too.

Anyway lately I've run into a few good examples of bad play:

I play a warrior. He's a level 60. Not that high.....but it got a bit boring so I started an enchanter, a druid, a monk, a cleric, a necro, a shaman, and a rogue.
With the exception of the rogue I leveled all to 40. Meaning I took 6 characters through the dreaded PC, HHK zones known for in my opinion poor play.

1: While in PC Single players (Wielding Fungis That darn Miraguls orb----I was exstatic when they...can't exactly say nerf....raised the level for the proc----, and generally at LEAST 31% haste items) would take entire bandit camps, and went those went dry this ogre would train dozens of fungal fiends(away from/through the few peeps who camped them, despite there complaints).

2: Additionally I once went to Kurns and was informed by a 65 druid, a 65 cleric, and a 4 bard that they had the ENTIRE ZONE camped. They threatened petitions, etc. Regardless of who you are, I don't believe PLing your friends should preclude the use of an entire zone.....especially one that's lvl 10-20.

3: While in HHK I was in an entirely caster group. We were in desperate need of a tank. A ranger showed up, actually 2 levels higher. I called him down. Our enchanter inspected him and said NO, he's too poorly equipped. He was wearing some named armor, the rest studded leather. There was a time (granted years ago) when this equipment was hardly poor. I'm also a fan of grouping with peeps, rather than leaving them lfg, especially at low levels. Anyway I quickly camped....somewhat disgusted.

3: Tonight in fact I was in a group with an enchanter, who even in my opinion played poorly. I gave him advice, a shaman alt from an uber guild berated him endlessly.

----In the end. Whether you like it or not, Newbs & poor players also pay SOE. Just because we've been in Norrath for years doesn't mean we should trample them. If players continue to berate those who's skills or not up to snuff, or trample newbs, they won't play. And once the new accounts dry up, and the old ones move on, the world of Norrath will as well. This may be a bit premature, but how many GM's are on these days? When does EQ2 come out?

Nafod
#28 Jan 21 2004 at 5:03 AM Rating: Decent
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I do have an opinion on this but Im keeping it to myself as I dont feel like sharing.


Thanks for that. I was feeling kinda uncomfortable until you informed us that you had an opinion on it that you don't feel like sharing.
#29 Jan 21 2004 at 6:35 AM Rating: Decent
Jonwin wrote:
I do have an opinion on this but Im keeping it to myself as I dont feel like sharing.


does the word S-P-A-M tell you something? Please share at least your opinion on that with us.....
#30 Jan 21 2004 at 6:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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#31 Jan 21 2004 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent
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#32 Jan 21 2004 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
Krokan,
We seem to have vastly different experiences in DAOC. I played since the game came out, with a few months time off. I heard the "this is my camp" three times in the whole game. I never asked for permission when I went to a camp (and by camp I mean where mobs spawn - not something you own). I never expected anyone to ask permission of me. To me, its rude to assume you own a camp. There was rarely kill stealing, meaning if I engage a mob, others should not engage unless I ask for help. Things were pleasant. If I wasnt getting enough xp sharing the camp I moved. I imagine others did the same. Granted some XP spots could only support one or two groups, and it would bug me if I got comfortable in an area and others came. But thats life - they had as much right to camp there as I did, so again I either stayed around or moved.
Since items for quests are automatically placed in your inventory if you received the quest (and not if you hadnt), there was never fighting for rare items. The random loot codes also removed alot of camping in specific spots.

These are all big improvements over EQ. I just wish DAOC had the content that EQ does (even half, hehe).

Mal
#33 Jan 21 2004 at 10:20 PM Rating: Good
NafodPwC wrote:


I play a warrior. He's a level 60. Not that high.....but it got a bit boring so I started an enchanter, a druid, a monk, a cleric, a necro, a shaman, and a rogue.
With the exception of the rogue I leveled all to 40. Meaning I took 6 characters through the dreaded PC, HHK zones known for in my opinion poor play.

Nafod


I have just levelled a cleric to 42 during my vacation. Never went within a hundred miles of the places you are talking about.

Why would you go to the very places that breed the behavior that you detest so much?

In all 42 levels I did not strike one bit of argument, camp stealing, kill stealing or any of the matters you raise.

Only once in Kedge Keep did some high levels breeze through and kill the mobs I was hunting, but reasonably understandable, I was pulling the entrance and they were moving through to Estrella, it is obviously safer to clear the swordfish rather than risk training the entire dungeon on yourself. I simply had to wait a few extra minutes for the respawn.

I have to say that my experience in recent times gives me the exact opposite impression, at both the 60's level and the 40's level I am delighted by the wealth of good players I have grouped with.

Edited, Wed Jan 21 22:23:06 2004 by Iluien
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