I guess Verant/SOE can kiss my A*SFollow

since you decided to ignore me last weekand this is MY thread (which means i don't own it but aprx. 25% are my posts INCLUDING the starting one) you agreed to something you know NOTHING about - VERY WELL DONE! *ROFL*

Otherwise your just a bigmouth who /ignores only to take it back next day.

choose wise *grin*

If you observe from inside one of the crashing cars -be my guest :)

PS: It begins really to make my day that everytime I prove something you guys react with some helpless babble.

Isn't there at least a dedicated female EQ-player out there who shows some class&quality in arguing?

I think I have yet to see you "prove" anything. You have a lot of opinions of varying qualities. You are fond of stating them and then going rabid on anyone who disagrees. Your ability to carry a rational argument is not evident by any of your performances on this board.

On this thread you have found another game with a different TS sytem than EQ. It is aimed at a different target audience. If it seems to suit you more than the EQ tradeskills then fine. It certainly "proves" nothing about the validity or otherwise of the EQ tradeskill system.

In fact as has already been said it doen't really sound like a tradeskill system at all but you'd have to play it to find out.

well is it me or is every online blizzard game i hyave played and i played alot have a heck load of hackers cheating makeing chars the highest lvl and haveing so good of gear that u cant die will i think that they just trying to make there name good because most of there games i played are ment for hackers loomat diablo and warcraft my firends have so many hack tools for them its not funny what are they gonna try and do when the hackers come and start hacking the game to make it treable ino they make new oatchs but i have seen new tools that can work even with the new patchso i stick with eq cause at lest they trying harder with hackers the blizzard is.



ps. i no i spell bad

"In real life" if I was making a sword and screwed up I can remelt the metal and try again, I wouldn't lose 5 pounds of steel into a black hole because I made a mistake. "In real life" if I tear a piece of cloth, I can use the cloth for a smaller section of what I'm sewing.

That was one of the few things DAoC got right, if you fail attempting to make something you may lose a piece or two of raw material, not the whole pile.

Dunno, but I guess i had something figured out today.

It's that kind of "I love this b***h - I hate this b***h" relationship, right? ;)

Edited, Thu Jan 29 13:41:12 2004 by Leiany

...as my hubby and me had a bit too much wine at dine (pun intended) I'd rather say EQ has formidablegear quests and a trades-kill system *LOL*

good night....nighty night.... ;)

[quote][/quote]"In real life" if I was making a sword and screwed up I can remelt the metal and try again, I wouldn't lose 5 pounds of steel into a black hole because I made a mistake. "In real life" if I tear a piece of cloth, I can use the cloth for a smaller section of what I'm sewing.

That was one of the few things DAoC got right, if you fail attempting to make something you may lose a piece or two of raw material, not the whole pile.




a valid point and totally true but my point was that it shouldnt work every time no matter what and yes in real life you could reuse what got messed up but in eq if you never lost parts on a fail then a skill level one person could get the stuff for a 250 trivial and keep trying until he eventual made it
only having to get the ingredients once
again that seems way too easy

which is still ridiculous, isn't it?
that is nothing but a LIE - I never said that, neither directly nor indirectly. I was complaining that skilling up involves endless farming.
Please don't lie again. OK, you post without reading the whole thread, thats excusable. But you didn't even read the OPENING post I guess - at least you didn't look at the link otherwise you'd noticed:
"As a weaponsmith, you maintain a stock of iron ore and grinding stones (needed to polish and sharpen the weapon to a fine razor's edge). You take a quick trip to the forge to smelt the iron ore and coal into steel bars."Hell - there are even SCREENSHOTS showing that!
So it's EQ where you are too dumb for extracting our own ore - in WoW youhave to!

Better research next time please.....


Edited, Fri Jan 30 06:00:20 2004 by Leiany

Endless quantities of basic things are sure a must for Vendors.

But Iliked for instance the quest where you had to give the Vendor unrefined ore to make him stock high quality ore for you to buy at last :)

I won't even get into the buy/sell rates at NPC merchants. Obviously they're not based on any sort of reality since there's no way for them to accurately follow a player based economy. Weapons_Merchant_02 in Freeport isn't going to say "Crap! People are selling Zrathxil forged cutlasses for 10pp! I better lower my Axe prices from 15pp to 6pp!" NPC merchants primarily serve for "flavor" in town (i.e. Boomba the Big), to dispense stock stuff (rations, peridots, bags, etc) and to give out plat for "worthless" things like rat whiskers and beetle legs that drop in lieu of money. I suppose they also provide a quick way to dump equipment for cash though PC prices are nearly always better (with some exceptions -- the only thing that keeps some Kunark armor pieces priced at 400pp+ is because merchants will give 398pp for them).

Anyway, you can already make Shaded Rockhopper Hide armor which is essentially fancy leather with a Trivial in the 30's. After that, you can make studded leather, reinforced leather, etc.

You seem to think that if an item is sold, it should be able to be player fabricated. I disagree, so long as there's something close enough. No, you can't make an "Arrow", but you can make Class 1 Field tipped wooden arrows for less money and with a low trivial. Why would you want to make an "Arrow" under those circumstances? Why would you want to craft a "Hunting Bow" instead of a rough hickory hemp stringed bow? You can't make "Steel Plate", but fine steel is higher quality anyway and comes directly after banded and ornate chain. I mean, they could have added a "Steel Plate" set in between and bumped up the fine steel trivial rates, but that doesn't serve any real useful function except to force people to create even more armor variants, which you complain are all useless anyway given available mob drops.

The Steel Sword/Ornate Blood Sword argument is more one of mudflation than a flaw in tradeskills. On the other hand, no one is forcing you to make longswords. Hell, they're not even a normal skillpath. If you're saying that low end tradeskills aren't especially valuable, I'd agree (less making components for high end tradeskills -- threads, padding, etc). But that's an issue about rate of mob drops, plat sinks, server age, etc.

Well...at least you are sober today I assume from that elegant and nearly typo-free sentences you constructed. *lol*

How you are gonna outlast me if you show up every 2 days (with only 1 of it being sober at best) and then rant in an unoriginal retarded way as if you were getting badly paid for doing so?

Some posts in the last 48 hours made me snarl, some made me laugh...yours just make me *yawn*

But if you got really nothing better to do than trying to get my attention with quotes from the C-movies you seem to collect - be my guest :)))

As i don't belive you can stay sober over a period of more than 6 hours you probably write all this mindless babble in the rare hours you can get a grip on the KB in advance - and that's why they all are out of context and uninteresting.

Sorry that you don't get enough of my attention for more than these few lines - while you sacrificed 2 or 3 of your precious and rare sober hours to put a whole page together - you just don't deserve more...