Ruin
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Rank 1 Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Destruction spells by 20%.
Effect 1:Apply Aura: Add % Modifier
Value: 20
SkillDestructionSchoolPhysical
RangeSelf OnlyCast TimeInstant
Global CooldownNone/Unaffected
Last Updated:2009-08-04 12:53:41

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must have, period
Posted: Mar 13th 2007 8:15am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
NickNite
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if you are desctructin basing your lock, don't think twice about getting this talent. If you don't notice the crit increase yet, you will start to. I can vrey nearly keep up with a same lvl fire mage I run with thanks to this baby. Conflagrate always crits around 630 for me, and I crited Shadow Burn 726 the other day, and I'm a lvl 42. Just push the button. You won't regret it. And no, it doesn't multiply your dmg by 2, as I thought. It basically doubles what your crit dmg would be. For instance, if your SB normally does 100 dmg, and you crit for 150, if you had Ruin it would crit for 200, because you critted for an extra 50 dmg, and 50x2 = 100, and 100+100=200. Easy enough to figure out, but i'm sure the formula is much more complicated than that. All i know is it's worth it.
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ruin ftw
Posted: Jun 17th 2006 12:42am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
Narciscuss
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Crit with soulfire at 1750 at level 51 ^^ and my SB crits at 950 and I dont even have SM yet :P
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Deflector Pwn
Posted: Oct 22nd 2005 2:21pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
aziala
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yeah you think like me But

when i shot shadowbolt in duel my opponent have Shadow Deflector (?) and i atack myself for about 2500 dmg ;) 2/3 of my life ;)
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Don't understand
Posted: Aug 23rd 2005 5:35am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
danjahokkie
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I was eagerly awaiting to get this talent. When I got it, I didn't notice a single thing differnet about my crits. I had teh impressions, that...wihtout Ruin, and I crit for 1000 dmg, that with Ruin, i would crit for 2000. Apparnetly it only reflects the bonus of it. Meaning if my standard SB hits for 600, and I crit for 900, I get an extra 300 dmg added, since thats a 100% increase of teh crit bonus. I guess, since my armor is still in transition from Affliction based, to Destruction based, I haven't seen anything.

My SB rank 8 would hit for 640-700 dmg regular. and crit for 1400 max. since I completely redid my talents, I am missing the +20% shadow dmg and increase crit chance on them also. Seeing as how, at end game, everything is more group based than solo based...I reworked my tree to be more teamwork-y. Improved Imp/Healthstones/ RainOfFire, Hellfire Stun. (which by the way, isn't worth it...the 26% chance to stun, never happens.)
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RE: Don't understand
Posted: Feb 27th 2006 7:50am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
yayayaay
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At the moment I have 31 talents in affliction, including 5 talent points in Shadow Mastery, which gives +10% shadow damage of life drained.
I plan to respec to 21-9-21, so I'll abandon Shadow Mastery and get Devestation (+5 crit chance) and Ruin (double crit damage) instead.
The guy above says that when he did the same (right?), he actually did less damage on average.

So I did the math. Details:
x = damage, a= crit chance
(1-a)*1.1 + a*2.2 = (1-1.05*a) + 3(1.05*a)
1.1 + 1.1*a = 1 + 2.1*a
a = 0.1

What does this mean? In order to get efficiency from Devestation+Ruin instead of Shadow Mastery, you need to have a crit chance of 10%.
I think most Warlocks will have this.

Correct me if I made some mistake.
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RE: Don't understand
Posted: Apr 9th 2006 10:08am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
yayayaay
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To add something to my previous post: you can have both SM and Ruin. :) Very popular talent build.
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950 Crit
Posted: Aug 15th 2005 6:04am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
bilen
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Done 950 crit with Immolate, all talents in destruction, so far no crits with Soulfire, but waiting eagerly for it....

Muhahahahaha
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1600hp crits
Posted: Jul 8th 2005 6:54pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
cypherpunkd
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Ruin and Shadowburn are the two big things to shoot for in the destruction tree. Everything else I put in Affliction (beside 2 points for the improved healthstone and 5 points for Demonic Embrace for the 15% stam boost). I get soulfire crits for about 1600hp each. VERY nice opening hit on a target
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1600hp crits
Posted: Mar 28th 2007 3:17am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
NickNite
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same here. I'm, at the moment, a lvl 50 des lock, and my soulfire max critted for 2016, avg of 1600-1700 a crit. I don't care if it takes up a soulshard. I odn't use it on anything I can't quick cast a drain soul to get the shard back. Bottom line: if you're a destrucion lock and don't get Ruin, you were dropped on your head too many times as a kid and should sue your parents.
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POwer
Posted: Apr 24th 2005 11:58am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
BluDemon
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This is the most important and powerful talent in the Destruction Tree...
600 points of damage with a rank 5 Shadow Bolt...I can barely imagine a Soulfire's critic-strike
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