Hope Bearer Helm

Merchant Sell Price: 19g 75s 49c
Merchant Buy Price: 3g 95s 9c
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Item Level: 100

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Hope Bearer Helm
Binds when picked up
HeadPlate
827 Armor
+30 Strength
+19 Stamina
+23 Agility
red  Red Socket
yellow  Yellow Socket
blue  Blue Socket
Socket Bonus: +2 mana per 5 sec.
Requires Level 65
Equip: Improves hit rating by 13.


Helm des Hoffnungsträgers Yelmo de portador de esperanza Heaume du porteur d'espoir 희망의 전도사 투구 希望使者头盔 希望持有者頭盔
Updated: 2009-11-18 16:54:20 by:

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10.70% Chance To Drop. (58 in 542)
Found on 2 creatures in 1 zones (average creature level: 66).This item can only be found on specific creatures.

Auchenai Crypts (7.75% - Hide)

NameLevelDrop RateDrop %
Shirrak the Dead Watcher61 - 71 Elite56of 37414.97%
Shirrak the Dead Watcher61 - 71 Elite2of 3740.53%


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Posted: Dec 10th 2007 11:45pm | Edited: Dec 10th 2007 11:51pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Warriors, lets get one thing straight and I mean one thing.

YOU DON'T NEED THIS! So much better sh*t for you that would give you better socket bonuses than this. Yes I know it doesn't give int+ and the mana regen is pathetic. But this is the thing, Paladins before Warriors when it comes to needing on this. Warriors looks stupid with this too!

As a 64 Ret Pally I don't go needing on stuff for fury or arms warriors because I know what I need for my job. On the side I have healing/tanking gear for when I have to run lower level instances for friends or act as back up healer. So I will occassionally ask for items that should go to a healer, but that's if the priest, shaman, druid, etc. doesn't need them.

So guys take it into consideration what your class "does" before looking at the "stats" of an item. Fury warriors = dps Arm warriors = burst damage
Ret paladins = DPS Melee/Spell DPS, so I think Ret Paladins have a priority over this.

Edited, Dec 11th 2007 7:51am by Dorojin
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Posted: Jun 21st 2008 11:32am | Edited: Jun 21st 2008 11:34am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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last time i checked dps warriors need hit rating, strength, stamina, agility. It is just as good for a dps warrior as a ret pally if not better. And about the look? Theres a function to turn helm off. I just got this on my fury warrior and its awesome. O and as to what my class does? It does damage. And you no waht the purpose of stats are? To raise the amount of damage you do. I saw no real viable argument in your post.

Edited, Jun 21st 2008 2:34pm by omgwtfpwnsauce
Same old excuse
Posted: Nov 30th 2007 11:13pm | Edited: Nov 30th 2007 11:22pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I give up, paladins get everything. They don't even have to be ret to get any warrior gear so wtf. Warrior haters I say. Even the Paladin DEFENSE set is better then the warriors. I mean damn INT with high defense alongside all warrior mods? Oh well the pres of blizz is a paladin what can we say. Nerf us more will ya? Oh and while you're at it add INT into the rest of the warrior gear.

I mean 2 Mana points in 5 seconds is HARDLY even freaking useful enough for a RET paladin. YOu're better off with something that has INT cause ret or not you always end up doing something holy or magical based dps. Man warriors are good end game but the blues before the raid items SUCK and you all know it.

Edited, Dec 1st 2007 12:16am by fistoflegend

Edited, Dec 1st 2007 12:22am by fistoflegend
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Posted: Jun 13th 2007 8:30am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I may get this on my WARRIOR because it gives no intellect. but gives great stamina and agility and spirit, witch us warriors need
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Level 54 NE warrior Sentinels Shinaz
Level 22 Human Warlock Sentinels Henzzi
Level 22 Troll hunter Sentinels Shiz
Level 22 BE paladin Sentinels Jinthalor


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Posted: May 18th 2007 8:43am | Edited: May 18th 2007 8:46am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Sigh. So tired of Warriors getting their panties in a knot because Paladin's are saying now what they've been told for ages "Oh! No no no! That doesn't have an Int or Mana bonus on it, that's not for you!".

You're right. Both Fury and Retribution Paladins have a right to roll on this. And I'm happy to see you wouldnt be flying into a rage over losing a roll on it. But let's be honest... you'd have no more right to be angry about losing a roll on this item to a Paladin than you would another Fury Warrior.

lern2playfair

Edited, May 18th 2007 11:46am by chione
fury and ret both
Posted: Apr 19th 2007 10:40pm | Edited: Apr 19th 2007 10:42pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I hate all you pallys for saying this is "pally only" gear

F*** you
im a 66 fury warrior and this thing stood out to me
the sockets are an added bonus and the sh*ttastic 2m/5s is BS
i would roll need on this if i had a group for it and if a pally won well i would be angry but i wouldnt be like screaming bloody murder
it is a GREAT fury helm and a GREAT ret pally helm thats all there is to say about it no tinking otherwise

and if u bring up the socket bonus i will cut ur head off and feed it to a core hound



btw my sig is wrong i havent been on the site in weeks and been lvling fast*

Edited, Apr 20th 2007 1:42am by alfafox
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fury and ret both
Posted: Jun 3rd 2007 3:00pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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This helm goes with a pseudo-set that looks like the lightforge armor, only blue. Therefore, it's obviously intended for paladins (the 2 mana just proves that), but there's nothing wrong with a warrior rolling need if he's going to use it.

As far as I'm concerned anybody can roll for anything as long as they're actually going to use it, not including disenchanting, of course.
good helm
Posted: Apr 17th 2007 10:47am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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great ret pally helm i wouldnt mind it but if a warrior is in group i would gladdly roll against him=D
Blizz's Love
Posted: Apr 16th 2007 4:42am | Edited: Apr 16th 2007 4:44am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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As an holy paladin, one of the two true pally sub-class (sorry but NO respect for Crétadin, you want to deepeeS. reroll hunter, rogue, warrior, etc) I prefer Helm of Infinite Visions -> http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=29937&locale=enUS;source=live or Helm of Natural Purity -> http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=25530&locale=enUS;source=live over this helm. I'll glady pass for any warrior that need it and be happy to shard it. No need of a blue version of Ronald McDonald helm. Socket you say? Yeah sure... Anyway Blizzard seem to had forgoten Paladins between lv20-58 but we got a sh*tload of gears after that. Some quests have 2 set of mail or 2 set of leather but no plate... Don't laugh at a warrior that wear Light-Touched Breastplate or pseudo-paladin gears, not cause they over-roll a pally, just they can't find anythign good right now. Beside I stand with Pasamis opinion. also to finish... if you want to argue, do it in a mature manner.

Edited, Apr 16th 2007 7:44am by Leilya
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Blizz's Love
Posted: Jun 3rd 2007 5:49pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Ummm... the only two paladin specs are holy and ret, not holy and prot. Try finding a protection paladin. I'm a retribution paladin, and I get 2/3 the dps of a mage or hunter, plus I off-tank. That's a pretty nice deal. Instead of having 3 total dps classes, you sacrifice just a little dps to help out the tank. How is this a bad idea? Even if ret weren't any use in instances, it's still the best PvP spec period. And of course you wouldnt want this helm. It's not for holy paladins. The whole pseudo-set that it goes with is ret paladin gear.
whatever
Posted: Apr 2nd 2007 1:54pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Tanking/DPS helm. Warrior or Pally could use.

62 Pally tank myself.
I'll pass
Posted: Feb 13th 2007 10:51am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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That mana regen bonus may be nice, but if there's a warrior in my party I'll pass and let him have it. As a holy spec pally, I want intelligence bonus in my armor. This helmet is for ret-pally and warrior, not for me.
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62PLD||31WAR - Ragnarok - Rank 6 (retired)
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Posted: Feb 4th 2007 8:06am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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http://www.yourdoom.org/items/hopebearerhelm.jpg

I would of gave to a paladin but there were none in my group.
Warrior? Pfft
Posted: Feb 4th 2007 2:39am | Edited: Feb 4th 2007 3:04am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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This is a Ret Paladin helm. If I saw a Warrior out roll a Paladin for this, he'd be blacklisted immediately.

EDIT: To below poster, it's a blue version on the Lightforge Helm. Obvious it was made with Paladins in mind :)

Links to the rest of the "Blue Lightforge Set", all but Bracers.

Truth Bearer Shoulderguards: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=24457&locale=enUS;source=live

Light-Touched Breastplate: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=24021&locale=enUS;source=live

Faith Bearer’s Gauntlets: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=25942&locale=enUS;source=live

Studded Girgle of Virtue: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=24458&locale=enUS;source=live

Azureplate Greaves: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=24364&locale=enUS;source=live

Uther's Ceremonial Warboots: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=27420&locale=enUS;source=live

Edited, Feb 4th 2007 2:04am by Maulgak
Posting from Oregon
Warrior? Pfft
Posted: Feb 14th 2007 9:34pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Retribution paladins are the most useless piece of sh*t in the entire game. What good is 2mp/5 gonna do? Poor mana regen for poor mana pool, GG.
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Knightmare: Gnome Warrior lvl 70
Leithold: Dwarf Paladin lvl 70
Darktsunami: Night Elf Priest lvl 70
Shadowshift: Night Elf Rogue lvl 70
Lorentz: Gnome Mage lvl 70
Glen: Dwarf Hunter lvl 70
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Warrior? Pfft
Posted: Feb 13th 2007 8:17am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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L O L Only thing that benefits a pally over a warrior is the damn socket bonus. Made for a ret pally or not, this has great states for either side. And its just a f***ing blue man, take it easy. People are trying to level. They don't have time for goofs like you. If its better than what you got and you can use it, use it! If this was end game sh*t I would say differently but its not, its just some blue in some dungeon. I can't believe you'd blacklist someone over something like this. If it had some more reassuring pally states maybe but still thats just a dick move man. Have some common sense L O L

I also dont understand why you are crying about this anyways. Warriors have to deal with pallies needing on their stuff all the time. If the pally really needed it I wouldn't care if he rolled. I see protection pallies wanting tanking gear all the time now since BC came out. Big deal, they are using it. End of story. There is obviously a class perference on every item but other classes can still use it. And also, pallies have SO much new gear its ridiculous. I cant believe you are QQing about this.

Just one more thing, lets take a second look at the helm shall we... take out the 2mana per 5secs BOOM fury helm FTW
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HaLo 70 exFury Warrior - Windrunner


DPS is easy because my class is overpowered.
Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them.
Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
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Warrior? Pfft
Posted: Feb 4th 2007 8:39am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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While you're drowning us in links, why don't you link an equivalent blue helm that warriors could use at this level that can be obtained via quest or instance drop. Oh right, there aren't any.
Warrior? Pfft
Posted: Feb 6th 2007 12:39am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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So, Warriors kept getting mad at Paladins rolling on "Warrior gear", and now that there's some Paly lovin gear Warriors want to claim that too? gg
Posting from Oregon
Warrior? Pfft
Posted: Feb 8th 2007 6:00pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Thats because, even tho there are now MUCH more options for pali's for gear, they still feel the need to roll on EVERY SINGLE piece of plate avalible.

Legplates of the bold, I tanked the entire instance, Pali wins em.

Yes, If i see this drop, I too will roll for it, Because desoite the socket bonus, It would make a fine helm(helm grphics off, of course)
Warrior? Pfft
Posted: Feb 8th 2007 12:11am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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It's good for either. Blacklisting a warrior for rolling on this is dumb because at this level they have no alternatives really. I have always been of the opinion that if you can make good use of an item (supports your build, helps you solo) that a player should roll on it so don't try to paint that BS on me.

The only QQ I make is over stupid crap like hunters rolling on Hellreaver or warlocks rolling on tanking items with high stamina or dumb stuff like that.
Warrior? Pfft
Posted: Feb 24th 2007 1:47am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I agree, that is true.
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Leithold: Dwarf Paladin lvl 70
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Shadowshift: Night Elf Rogue lvl 70
Lorentz: Gnome Mage lvl 70
Glen: Dwarf Hunter lvl 70
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How could blizzard possibly gear the set bonus on this helm towards a paladin? I got this on my warrior and I love it.
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lol
Posted: Feb 1st 2007 8:17pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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OMG MANA REGEN PALLY HELM!!!
Agreed
Posted: Jan 31st 2007 9:03am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Agreed.
i agree
Posted: Jan 25th 2007 9:27am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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2 mana per 5 isnt even worth talking about, +12 str from 3x 4str reds would maket this the best helm around for a warrior for quite some time. (or 3x +6 sta)
Posting from NW Ohio
Mana regen?
Posted: Jan 22nd 2007 12:43pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I don't care about the socket bonus. As a warrior, I would still roll on this even if there is a paladin in the group.
Mana regen?
Posted: Feb 8th 2007 2:15am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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There was once a single rogue in a UBRS run... In this wonderfull run, the rogue hitted NEED and won the Lightforge Shoulders on roll over 2 palys... one of the paly's was actually better equiped, so he didnt rolled, but the other paly screamed in pain when he saw his should going to the rogue...
The raid leader became very upset and just before drakk changed to master looter... Drakk eventually died, and no wonder, he dropped the shadowcraft chestpiece... The rogue was hapy and jumping around for his new aquisition... and he had no other rogues in the group... The master looter decided that the riped off paly would have his sweet revenge now, and gave him the shadowcraft tunic. He jumped back, saluted the master looter AND SHARDED IT right in the face of the vile ninja rogue...

The lesson, there's no excuse to NEED over other classes... Play with pride, fairplay and no vile atitudes against others. They will love ya and invite ya back, else you might eventually piss off so many people that you might find that good players who know of your ninja accolade's dont want to play with ya anymore, and then, all there's left, are the all mighty PUG's.
Posting from Portugal
Mana regen?
Posted: Feb 13th 2007 8:57am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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k first off rogue and pally doesnt compare to a warrior and pally situation, warrior can actually use this
second i want you pallies to tell me exactly why you wouldn't let a warrior roll for this. and if you say that stupid socket bonus ill slap you...

kthxsbie
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HaLo 70 exFury Warrior - Windrunner


DPS is easy because my class is overpowered.
Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them.
Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
Posting from Windrunner
Mana regen?
Posted: Feb 13th 2007 2:33pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Man, in the groups I play in my server (Malfurion US), usually an item is rolled by class priority, that means that if a paly item drops, paly's have first choice, warriors have second. If the paly wants it, paly takes it, if the paly doesnt want it, warrior is free to take it, none wants it, we roll for item/shard.

Theres no reason to roll for it against a paly who needs it. You know, eventually the situation for another item might happen, I really dont believe you will like to be outrolled by a paly or any other class on a warrior item, may it be swords or whatever. Most warriors think paly's only use maces and stuff like that. Paly's were the most outcasted class when it came down to rolls. Come on, you have a nicer warrior helm available, or didnt you knew that ?!
Posting from Portugal
Mana regen?
Posted: Feb 14th 2007 9:45am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I know how prioity works. I've been in a guild for about a year that is built on prioity. But saying THIS helm should ONLY go to pallies first is just retarded. You pallies saying this item is just for paladins should really have a good look at it. Look at the states. Minus the pathetic socket bonus its the perfect fury helm. Yes it is a great ret pally helm but still a nice fury helm. EQUALLY good for both classes. If this had some more reasurring pally states like intel or spirit I wouldnt touch this 50foot pole.

Also read my post above casue what im saying to you is basically that and im not about to retype all that.

Either
A. You are a troll
B. You do not know how a warrior works
C. You are an idiot
D. All of the above
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HaLo 70 exFury Warrior - Windrunner


DPS is easy because my class is overpowered.
Dealing with nerfs is easy because I always get them.
Tanking is easy because everyone already hates me. >:(
Posting from Windrunner
Mana regen?
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tard
Posting from Portugal
Mana regen?
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There are easier ways to tell people you're a prick ya know!
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