I win yesterday, and is a very nice upgrade than onslaught. Is a good item because you can balance with other items to win some AP, and lose som Agilty. Is necesary to upgrade, and more important for a warrior DPS.
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"The chill, to him who breathed it, drew / Down with his blood, till all his heart was cold."
"The Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I FIGHT!
People are talking about pure DPS. For example, Titanic Leggings are better than Conq. for pure dps (one more hit), but Conq Legguards own Titanic in all other aspects (dodge, armor, stamina). Most people think that for a rule of thumb 20 attack power = one crit, it's a toss up.
I'm not really sure if this is an upgrade from Onslaught Girdle or not..
As for PvE, damage will always (in most cases atleast) come before stamina, since we all wanna own the dmg-meters, right?
So this is a fight between 20 agility (pure 1% crit) or 10 str (20 AP). At a certain point you reach a cap on your crit. Especially as dual wield warrior you will sometime end on a crit-rate saying 40-50% when raiding. Will more actually be needed then? You have to notice that attack power continues into an unending scale, which means you will always increase your dmg with more attack power. Crit-% will cap at a certain point. When we talk crit-rate on e.g. 45%, will it make any big difference if it's 46%? Not that 20 attack power adds tremendius additional damage, but in general you should choose AP in front of agility, when it comes to your future gear (if you got alot of crit already ofc)
This is a thought when you got end-game gear atleast. If you have 20-30% crit when you are raiding, this belt is a most atleast.
I actually prefer the onslaught over this for 2 reasons: One, it's not so insanely better that I would spend more DKP on another belt, and two, which is easier to obtain? Yeah exactly.
Since Flurry applies to 3 hits, more than 33% crit for a fury warrior is a waste. You want to proc Flurry once in 3 hits in order to maintain Flurry (obviously some luck is involved).
Since Flurry applies to 3 hits, more than 33% crit for a fury warrior is a waste. You want to proc Flurry once in 3 hits in order to maintain Flurry (obviously some luck is involved).
Don't forget that, you know, when you crit you do more damage...
I agree that this belt is better then onslaugt... But it aint insanely much... its as mentioned befor 1crit 1 dodge 110 hp better.. but 20 ap lower...
Some people may preffer the ap tho.. and onslaught is almost as good for dmg in pve.. in pvp the dodge, and hp helps more. My guild still at Anub... gettin him very soon..
Actually, it's really not THAT much better than onslaught but personally I like that decision.
First of all WoW is doing the Diablo II "faster, bigger, better" thing right now, and I can only congratulate Blizz for slowing down the ridiculous "upgrade spiral" but also, when having a clear look at it I like it better than onslaught.
One can argue if 1% crit does differ from 20 AP (shouldn't be any difference in damage) but the 1% dodge & 100 hp extra, yeah, I believe its worth spending points on it, though not too much.
I tend to agree with you. Unfortunately, you probably wrote this without seeing the drops from Sapphiron and Kel'Thuzad. =\
Scroll to the very bottom for loot links - none of it is confirmed post-PTR, but it's enough to make me hope these two guys prove as tough as Ouro and C'Thun did.
Yea it's clearly a sidegrade and not an upgrade, depending on your build you may choose not to have this instead of onslaught, it's 20 less AP for 1% extra crit , 1% extra dodge and 110 extra health.
You guys are saying thank god for an upgrade for onslaught girdle. I'm just wishing to get Onslaught Girdle off rag. maybe it will be 6 months or so till i get this =/ maybe
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All Hellscream charactors lvl 70 warrior-Ivorywarrior
"The Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I FIGHT!
1 Crit + 1 Dodge + 10 Sta vs. 10 Str
This thing owns Onslaught Girdle hardcore. Definitely a nice upgrade.
As for PvE, damage will always (in most cases atleast) come before stamina, since we all wanna own the dmg-meters, right?
So this is a fight between 20 agility (pure 1% crit) or 10 str (20 AP). At a certain point you reach a cap on your crit. Especially as dual wield warrior you will sometime end on a crit-rate saying 40-50% when raiding. Will more actually be needed then? You have to notice that attack power continues into an unending scale, which means you will always increase your dmg with more attack power. Crit-% will cap at a certain point. When we talk crit-rate on e.g. 45%, will it make any big difference if it's 46%? Not that 20 attack power adds tremendius additional damage, but in general you should choose AP in front of agility, when it comes to your future gear (if you got alot of crit already ofc)
This is a thought when you got end-game gear atleast. If you have 20-30% crit when you are raiding, this belt is a most atleast.
Edited, Jul 9th 2006 at 8:13pm EDT by Bassefar
Don't forget that, you know, when you crit you do more damage...
as mentioned befor 1crit 1 dodge 110 hp better.. but 20 ap lower...
Some people may preffer the ap tho.. and onslaught is almost as good for dmg in pve.. in pvp the dodge, and hp helps more. My guild still at Anub... gettin him very soon..
First of all WoW is doing the Diablo II "faster, bigger, better" thing right now, and I can only congratulate Blizz for slowing down the ridiculous "upgrade spiral" but also, when having a clear look at it I like it better than onslaught.
One can argue if 1% crit does differ from 20 AP (shouldn't be any difference in damage) but the 1% dodge & 100 hp extra, yeah, I believe its worth spending points on it, though not too much.
Scroll to the very bottom for loot links - none of it is confirmed post-PTR, but it's enough to make me hope these two guys prove as tough as Ouro and C'Thun did.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Kel%27Thuzad
http://www.wowwiki.com/Sapphiron
Edited, Jun 27th 2006 at 5:39pm EDT by SinspaW
lvl 70 warrior-Ivorywarrior
http://eu.wowarmory.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Tarjin
Mentor has 10 extra stam and 20 extra agility, and you lose 10 str.
Still worth it.
~EN
An upgrade of Onslaught girdle
/mourn
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