Gem of Trapped Innocents

Merchant Sell Price: 41g 11s 11c
Merchant Buy Price: 10g 27s 77c
Item Level: 92

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Gem of Trapped Innocents
Binds when picked up
NeckMiscellaneous
+9 Stamina
+7 Intellect
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases spell power by 15. 
Equip: Increases your critical strike rating by 28. 


Edelstein der gefangenen Unschuld Gema de Inocentes atrapados Gemme des innocents enchaînés 무고한 영혼의 보석 无辜囚徒宝石
Updated: 2009-08-09 02:48:38 by: GwenEira




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better for pally
Posted: Dec 22nd 2006 11:40pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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being a mage, I would not mind it going to a paladin. amulet of vek is not that bad whereas paladins would dance in joy for hours after getting this
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Not for palas oder or holy priests
Posted: Dec 5th 2006 6:20am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Heh..you CANNOT use it as a paladin..why?
Well...it's a gem of _trapped innocents_! A paladin never ever would keep them caged, he would free them, thus destroying the item..ahahaha..palas must be good, fools! :P :P :P
Hot for Paladins
Posted: Oct 30th 2006 1:46am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Definitely a pally necklace!

Illumination paladins benefit the most from spell crit :P
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Posted: Oct 16th 2006 12:52pm | Edited: Oct 16th 2006 12:59pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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This is somewhat of a side grade to the Amulet of Vek'nilash as other's have mentioned, but pretty far superior to the Choker of the Firelord and here's why:

What you need to be interested in is how much +1% Spellcrit essentially is to +X Spelldamage for yourself: and this will differ from person to person.

This calculation is going to be slightly different depending on what your spell of choice & talent spec actually is. If as a Mage you are spec'd Fire and primarily tossing out Fireballs, its going to be different than if you are spec'd Frost and primarily tossing out Frostbolts. Similar mechanics apply for Warlocks and Shadowbolts. What you really want to watch is how much your average spell effect is hitting for non-crit. From that you can figure out about how much you would in rough equivalence between Spellcrit and Spelldamage.

The lower your average effect is hitting for, the less you will be getting out of +Spellcrit% comparatively. So when you start out, and have very little +Spelldamage gear, +Spelldamage is likely going to be granting you a fairly significant bonus compared to +Spellcrit%. Due to this, it is conceivable that for someone who is brand new to raiding and doesn't have a lot of +Spelldamage gear yet, the Choker of the Firelord might be a more significant upgrade than even the Gem of Trapped Innocents (yes, the Choker will probably be available to them a whole lot sooner than the Gem anyway, so this works out well) but over time this will change if you continue to upgrade your gear.

+Spellcrit% scales whereas +Spelldamage does not. In fact as you start adding in more and more +Spelldamage gear to your items, eventually some of the +Spellcrit% items you may have replaced earlier on can become more valuable to you than the lower end +Spelldamage gear you have.

A good example of something like this might be the Briarwood Reed vs the Eye of the Beast. When you start out in Raiding, particularly as a Mage if you are Frost Spec'd for MC & BWL, you will get far more bonus out of the Reed than the Eye - though you may end up using both together for a while. As you continue on however, your average effects may eventually balance out the two items in terms of damage value to you, and as you progress even further, the Eye may eventually outweigh the Reed in terms of their value to you - assuming you haven't found something better in the mean time to replace one of them.

But something of note here is that if you are in a guild dropping Kel'thuzad, you are probably already on the higher end of the damage spectrum. You're probably going to end up getting a larger bonus from the additional +Spellcrit% than the corresponding difference in +Spelldamage between something like the Amulet of Vek'nilash and the Gem of Trapped Innocents making the Gem more valuable in terms of damage slightly, with the difference becomming more and more pronounced as you upgrade your gear to the highest end (and probably further in expansions assuming something better for this slot doesn't become available to you).

This is only comparing +Spellcrit% and +Spelldamage of course in terms of normal damage, not +Spellhit%, and doesn't account for other strategies like Fire Mages keeping Ignites rolling etc...

Hope some of this rambling might be helpful to some of you...







Edited, Oct 16th 2006 at 12:59pm PDT by Valcronde
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Top End Neck Pieces
Posted: Nov 9th 2006 1:24am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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How do you kill... one with no life.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2006 10:42pm | Edited: Dec 5th 2006 9:09am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Doalje wrote:
How do you kill... one with no life.


Boars... Sixty-five million three hundred and forty thousand two hundred and eighty five of them... which should take seven weeks five days thirteen hours and twenty minutes giving yourself three hours a night to sleep. And maybe some super sword off Kel'thuzad.

Edited, Dec 5th 2006 11:11am by Valcronde
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Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, so let me simply add that it's my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.
wtf?
Posted: Oct 7th 2006 10:55pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Uh...

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=18814

And this drops off KT


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tards
Posted: Sep 20th 2006 5:16pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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best neck for pvp/fire mage. hands down.
no wai
Posted: Sep 18th 2006 11:36pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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vek'nilash is superior for locks imo, hit>crit so 1 more % of crit doesn't compensate for 12 spelldmg imo
Sup
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Test
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sh*t browser!

Edited, Sep 19th 2006 at 7:16am EDT by Madsenffs
spam
Posted: Sep 18th 2006 5:58am | Edited: Sep 19th 2006 4:10am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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ooo shiny

Edited, Sep 19th 2006 at 7:10am EDT by Madsenffs
sup
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why hello there sidegrade
sup
Posted: Sep 18th 2006 5:31am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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for mages and warlocks, name a neck that comes close to this one?
sup
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This neck is better, but only a little better then choker of the fire lord or Amulet of Vek'nilash, so even as a warlock I have to admit that the biggest upgrade is to pallies.
sup
Posted: Sep 18th 2006 5:56am | Edited: Sep 19th 2006 4:09am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I'd say Amulet of Vek'nilash is pretty close.

Edited, Sep 19th 2006 at 7:16am EDT by Madsenffs

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