pic please

i think we need alamo's input on this.

so plz alamo, if u are out there, respond and free us druids from the oppression of others.


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Screenshot of the End of Dreams

so at all, priests should better go on grand marshalls warhammer, still better with 135 healing and 6mana/5secs and let druids take this nice mace

So many flaws in so many arguments. *Sigh*

First off, there's better items for situational uses for both Priest and Druid. There's no denying that. I think what everyone's arguing over is this weapon's "All In One" factor, added with the fact that it's a 1h weapon. With that cleared up, I don't see how anyone can say Druids SHOULDN'T have priority on this item.

As I stated, it's the "All In One" factor. Priest want it because it's the highest +Spell Damage on a 1h Weapon. That doesn't mean it's the best weapon for a Shadow Specced Priest - it means it's the best they can get with one hand. But wait! There's a +Healing Spells bonus on it as well! DUAL USEAGE! So lets take all this into consideration, and look at why Priest want it:

- Highest +Spell Damage for a 1h Mace.
- Healing bonus atributes allowing for multiple functionality.
- Additional stats (5mana/5sec, Stamina, Intellect) also provide helpful bonuses.

Okay, now that that's been discussed, we can move on to Druid. As with Priest, Druids have access to multiple weapons that can provide better benefits in situational useage. Again though, it's all-in-one here! That's the name of the game. With the recent 2.0 Patch, Balance Druid is now a more viable option than ever before. I'd say the +Spell Damage more than qualifies as being useful here. The +Healing is a no brainer as well, what with all the healing Druids have to do. Finally, we have the +Attack Power that's only avaliable to Druids in a shapeshifted form. So lets look at all the benefits this weapon provides for a Druid:

- Spell Damage bonus for the large number of both nature and arcane spells avaliable to Druids.
- Healing bonus for, uh, healing.
- Large Attack Power bonus that are ONLY accessable in Shapeshifted forms.
- Additional stats - all of which provide useful bonuses for Druids.

Now, looking at the "All in one" factor, it's clear to see Druid makes more use of this weapon. Any other factor at this point is a nonissue. Seriously. It DOESN'T matter. Since there IS a better weapon for every aspect the End of Dreams provides stats for, the ONLY reason to have it is because of it's multiple functionality, and with THAT in consideration Druids win simply because they can put it to better use. End of story.

I keep hearing all these statements by people saying, "There's better weapons for Druids." as if there's not for Priest. Another boss in the SAME Raid drops the Brimstone Staff that grants you +113 Spell Damage/Healing Bonus AS WELL as an additional +14 to your spell's critical strike rating, +16 to your spell's hit rating, and +31 Stamina +30 Intellect, and a base DPS of 60.9. THAT is what you Priest should be drooling over. Not a damn 1-handed Mace that provides an attack bonus to a function you can't even preform.

I say this to you: If Druid can simply "get a better weapon than this", so can a Priest. That argument is flawed, presents no logic at all, and is simply some poor excuse fabricated by a Priest to obtain this.

A few other things I'd like to point out as well, just to discredit these pathic arguments a bit more. There seemed to be quite a few people pointing out how little a Druid would be making "full" functionality of this weapon. "Druid is subpar DPS." Well there sunshine, I don't exactly see Shadow Priest topping the DPS charts in Raids, while a number of Druids have been able to out-DPS well geared Rogues. Not always the case, I know. But then again, a lot of people suck at this game - Especially a job as complicated as Druid (Well, complicated when compared to the likes of Rogues and Mages). It's easy to see see why every Druid isn't capable of massive DPS.

However, the truth is, 90% of Druids and Priest alike will be healing in raids, making that the only "true" 100% useful stat on this item. The rest will be used on occassion in Raids (Moonfire blast, Priest DPS on occassion, etc.), but not constantly. That makes this mostly a PvP item, and that's where it really shines, and puts Druid No.1 on the list for this item.

Yes you CAN switch weapons in a fight, but in the heat of battle, are you really going to say, "Hey, I'd better unequipped my +STR/Stam/AP Staff for my +Healing Staff when I shift out to cure myself so it'll have a more potent effect on me." No. No you're not, and you know it (Okay, so maybe a few crazy PvP'ers will). Let alone, switch between 4 different weapons everytime you assume a certain form. This weapon covers all the bases, and it does a REALLY good job at it. Not the best, but in terms of functionality, this weapon provides damn good help in all situations.

Even if a Druid isn't specced a certain way, they're still going to find these attributes helpful. You don't have to be Balance Specced in Moonkin Form to find the ~95 Damage to your Moonfires helpful. What about us Druids forced to spec Resto for the sake of our Guilds? Should our DPS/melee capabilities fall flat because we weren't allowed to spec Feral? Well, the additional +AP now helps us make up for that. It's little things like that you Priest aren't aware of, and want to screw us out of because you want a 1h DPS weapon for Shadow Spec.

In closing, I'd just like to point out something on a more personal note. Druids already have a lot of crap. Seriously. My 60 Rogue has his normal armor. Aside from it, he has a handful of NR and FR gear for raiding, as well as a few extra pieces to help mix and match his gear depending on the situation. Overall, I'd say he has 2 1/2, possibly 3 sets of gear (in terms of the amount of pieces).

My Druid has no less than 6. We have the healing set for raids - possibly numerous pieces for the same slot. Then we have a PvP set. Additionally, we have pieces geared for tanking, DPS, casting/dmg, and hybrid gear. Not entirely full sets for all of those, but a number of pieces for those purposes. Not to mention the FR/NR gear we have to get as well. The sheer number of things we have to obtain is ridiculous.

I know, I know . . . It comes with the territory. You know what Druids like though? We like those few pieces of gear we get that are ACTUALLY effective hybrid pieces. This is one of those few items. Call me greedy if you will, but it'd be nice to finally not to have to carry around half a bag full of various weapons for a situation I may or may not encounter at that time. But hey, Priest need their 1h DPS Maces, right!?!

p.s. With Patch 2.0, all aspects of the Druid got a major boost, making this weapon even more effect for all their forms.

Im not gonna right an essay about this... it's a DRUID item.

Can some one explain to me why people keep trying to view this as a healing weapon. It is not a healing weapon. Its a dps weapon. Comparing this with sartura's might to the augur staff from AQ is dumb. The Augur staff is +healing only, not +dmg/healing. If you want to compare something to the Augur staff compare the mace from Faerlina, +161 healing on that mace, thats a healing mace. This one is not made for that, it simply isnt, quit trying to say it is.

First thing is first though. Hunters I swear I'll start hunting all of you down if you don't stop acting like idiots when it comes to weapons you CANNOT USE!

Okay. I've read over a hundred posts on here and alot of them saying feral druids suck and can't tank/dps or that the 305SP to feral combat forms doesn't mean sh*t. Time to get pimp slapped.

Okay on page three some dumb ass said warriors can out survive bear druids LOL. Here's my response to that incase no one goes back and reads for a good laugh.

"Wait let me get this right. You're talking about combat survivability? Dude you @#%^ing n00b. I shouldn't even give you the honor of this bu...*back hands you*Bitch stfu. I've seen a lvl 30 druid take down a lvl 40 warrior in a duel. Hard to charge or intercept when you're rooted. OMG warriors have no way out! Unless you're a gnome LOL.((Gnome love)) Ohh wait lets just make this better. Bash since I'm a feral druid that's five or six secdons to Keep you stunned to shift and heal or I can *gasps* Bash you root you run the @#%^ away out of charge or intercept range in travel form heal up with HoT spells moonfire you once Nail you hard with Starfire Which OMG warriors never get arcane resistance. Then back to bear form. Wait OMG better yet @#%^ the bull sh*t I'll just use Frienzied Regeneration and turn my rage into a massive ammount of health every second. Warriors can't do that.*gasps*OMG I'm out of rage. My current feral tree left me five points so I put them in Furor. I'll just do a rapid shift to caster then back to bear form. Easy rage. Then top it off with Demoralising roar to reduce the damage you do then enrage to add more rage putting damage back on par. Holy @#%^. Can warriors do any of this? Nope you have to give up health to gain easy rage. Damn you're just screwed if a good feral druid wants to maul your ass. I hope a druid eats you for breakfast lunch and dinner. Shut your mouth before I send you to the n00b home for the "gifted" players."

(edit) for those of you I know are going to bitch at me about the legendary staff beign nearly impossible to get, SHOVE IT! Look further on and see what a feral druid has to do for good feral sets. WHICH STILL HAVE HEALING AND SPELL BENIFITS!
As for Priests needing healing items. I play a priest. Gues what. We get MASSIVE items that do over 100+ healing. And if you're holy lets throw a bonus on there for spirit instead of healing and get a better boost than a pissant 55. That's if you keep your spirit high. If not change to shadow and shut up. Even shadow priests get better staves. Starting with OMG Benidiction/Anethema. Then there is a staff in BWL and OMG the legendary staff that OMFG shaman can use TOO from Naxx. So you want to bitch about priest healing gear blow off. There's better staves than this mace And believe me no druid/shaman/Paladin/Mage/Warlock is going to contest you for the Eye of Divinity.

For you Paladins. OMG I love you NOaladins. Just another secondary healing bitch class. Stick to what you're good at. Standing there and casting varius buffs. Yeah once in a green moon((more rare than a blue)) a GREAT player comes along and makes a paladin that should be worth of the title HERO in the WC game series. To those paladins I give you the utmost respect and gratitude for a job well done*bows respectfuly to those VERY select few*

Okay. Now heres where I drop the Bull sh*t and start coming to the Point. Feral is not just a PvP tree. It's THE survival tree for druids who Solo or don't want to play the healing bitch. You say to ignore the AP boost of this mace and I say pull your head out of your ass so you can breath Richard Cranium((Richard head if You don't catch the meaning)). Do you have any damned clue what hell feral druids have to go through for GOOD feral epic gear. First there are the items from Cenarion Circle rep. The Unending life set which OMG doubles as feral/Caster gear. OMG! The AQ hammer is great but a pipe dream at best. Then there is the Hammer of Beasial Furry. Luckily I'm on an RP server so if we beat the horde to the green dragons Sweet. But still a bitch because of the low Spawn rate. I've only seen Emeris ONCE since the release of the Dragons of Nightmare. Then there are the five Brood of Nozdormu items. WoW hope you have a few months to contribute to that slow climb or are the only person in your guild hitting BWL that is worried aobut the BoN gear. Other wise yeah. Long road to travel. Then lastly and most sadly the PvP gear. A joke at best. Hardly worth being called EPIC. And the MANY MANY hours of farming horde just frankly isn't worth it.

In short for you priest shaman and paladin wanting this mace step aside and let us druids through. We're tired of being steered in one direction. LET US HAVE OUR GEAR! Ohh also this mace isn't just for PvP.

Edited, Oct 9th 2006 at 2:27pm PDT by KaldoreiDruidOakshadow

fo sho homies pally mace, i got the trio on my pally, severence, this +dmg mace, and c'thun healing mace, click my username for profile if u want

tards think its good to give druids prio on pvp items vs people who would need for pve? pfft think again

Paladins, Priests and Shamans who are allowed to have this mace over a Druid who wants it is just stupid...

I have the first in my guild and server, and the top guilds that kill Grob give Druids priority of this weapon over other mace classes.

I use it for healing with Sartura's Might (and as part of my feral kit too, having almost 300+ healing and 1300AP isn't bad right?) - cos hell, less than 5% drop of Scepter of the False Prophet off C'thun is too far off to wait for :)

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^^ me

... how... how can ppl not see this as a druid first drop?! its going to shamans and priests? for what?! get a goddamn different weapon to increas your healing if you REALLY need it. that 305 atk power is for DRUIDS!

god, and people wonder why its so hard to find druids nowadays.

I guess this is a triple bladed druid weapon. +Damage for moonkin. +Healing for resto. AP for ferals. It's nice seeing Blizzard give druids some love. They have been long overdue.

this is so silly it's not even funny.

Everyone else sees the druidity of this weapon too! This is a new and exciting feeling!
No retards claiming it's obviously paladin only, or obviously, say, Warlock only! hahaha mace + warlock = no.


NEW AND EXITING! O man, feral droods = not lol anymore?

OMGWTFBBQ what if druid damage approaches rowg?! IMAGINE LE POZZIBILTIEZ
such as... a druid... in cat form... hurting something... instead of backup healing. INCREIBLE!

seroiusly thou.

KUDOS TO EVERYONE, GOOD JOB. LET'S MAKE SURE NO SORRY DUMBASS RUINS THIS THREAD.

THIS IS A DROOD WEAPON KLOL?

As previous people have said before, this IS a druid priority weapon.

If you compare it to the Blessed Qiraji Augur Staff, the equips are practically the same.

The End of Dreams
Binds when picked up
Unique
One-Hand Mace
44 - 120 Damage Speed 1.90
(43.2 damage per second)
+18 Intellect
+18 Stamina
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 95.
Equip: +305 Attack Power in Cat, Bear, and Dire Bear forms only.
Equip: Restores 7 mana per 5 sec.

combined with
Sartura's Might
Binds when picked up
Held In Hand Miscellaneous
+6 Intellect
+6 Stamina
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 51.
Equip: Restores 5 mana per 5 sec.

brings you to 146 healing and 12 MP5

with
Blessed Qiraji Augur Staff
Binds when picked up
Unique
Two-Hand Staff
132 - 227 Damage Speed 3.00
(59.8 damage per second)
+24 Intellect
+23 Stamina
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 143.
Equip: Restores 15 mana per 5 sec.

so if you are in line to get an Augur staff (regalia), instead of waiting through all the priests, just go for EoD, granted it is druid priority in your guild.


Edited, Jul 24th 2006 at 7:35pm EDT by ahconfusedshoe