ok i made an account just to comment on this item...if someone has said this before me im sorry but....well..this is a Death Knight weapon "ZOMFG u nuub DK isnt out yet" yes but its been speculated that this will become a level 80 legendary weapon..but it is mainly a PvP weapon as someone has already said...or is it? its been said DKs (Death Knights) use 2h Weps and are still tanks which means they might be able to obtain this weapon then cleanse it in a quest chain and it will still be usefull for Raids and also PvP so this is Definatly a DK weapon
When becoming a DK u get to choose what type of weapon u want to use, 1h,2h, Swords or Axes, and no they can't use shields with 1h, they are a tank, dps, and caster type class, they can summon a pet like the mage, and shammy, but it only last for 30secs or some time,
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i don't know where you are getting your information from.What you said about a DK getting the choise of a 1h 2h weapon an axe etc,etc is not the truth.The DK get a sword and it is a 2h sword you can not decide otherwise.It is the first quest you get when you first start a DK.If you are going to post something please make sure that you are giving the right info
There's no point of arguing who it belongs to, the wep is pretty much for novelty atm as it's stats and damage are next to nothing compared to 70 epics. However, if the legenday should be introduced in the future and are based on the same claimed stats of the supposed "cleansed ashbringer", then either an arms warrior or ret pally would benefit from it, maybe slightly more towards pally due to the faster attack speed. Either way, arms and ret are pvp specs, and neither help raiding.
omfg... ppl thats nagging bout what class this wpn belongs to is starting to piss me off. COMON!! if u can use 2h swords u probs want this sword, paladin/warrior or whatever. it was a cool sword back @ 60 but now it stinkzz. so stop the fuzz and get on with ur wow
Corrupted Ashbringer Binds when picked up Unique Two HandSword 259-389 DmgSpeed 3.60 (90.0 damage per second) -25 Stamina Durability: 120 / 120 Requires Level 60 Equip: Inflicts the will of the Ashbringer upon the wielder. Equip: Increases your critical strike rating by 28. Equip: Increases your hit rating by 10. Chance on hit: Steals 185 to 215 life from target enemy. "Blade of the Scarlet Highlord"
this is definatly not a war weapon i dont care what spec, its a pallie weap put the "cleansed" ashbringer into a pallies hands 700 holey damage + sanctity aura + crusader strike trust me i dont care how much you say its a war weap definatly high tier pallie item(s)and with a 2hander ive out DPSed all specced wars i just cant out tank them lol ^ ^
ok listen, too all the people that say "warriors can do more dmg bla bla bla" or "morgraine was a paladin so paladins should get it" need too just shutup..noone owns this weapon, iam a warrior, and i would love too get my hands on this, even at lvl 70 just so i could get it upgraded..but its not just a warrior weapon, i have a good friend thats a pally..and he could use it just as much as i could, lore has nothing to do with it!! it bugs me when people say that it does >.<
O.K. All hunters that say this is a hunter weapon, are retarded. It's for anyone that can use 2-H swords, O.K.? It's a game, don't get all mad at eachother because you think it's hunter, pally, or warrior, it's whoever gets it, and that's going to be me at 60!!!
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Level 54 NE warrior Sentinels Shinaz Level 22 Human Warlock Sentinels Henzzi Level 22 Troll hunter Sentinels Shiz Level 22 BE paladin Sentinels Jinthalor
Hey, um... I don't know if any of you know this, but Corrupted Ashbringer has the highest possible base damage out of every level 60 2h epic sword. 259-389. Oh, and call of the Ashbringer? Steals 185 to 215 life from the enemy, and this isn't shown, but it also increases your hit rating by 10. SO, screw Ashkandi, and get in a guild where you can get this blade... 'Tis nuttin' but f*ckin' amazing.
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But is mograine really a paladin? Look at the event in SM, he is wearing deadnaught. imo that suggests this is a warrior sword. and btw, that holy dmg and all elemental dmg like thqat on weapons can't be amplified by spell dmg and such, cuz they arent spells. trust me i tried it with an ice blade hacker which gives frost dmg like ashbringer does holy, no dmg difference. so there, pallys are not better weilders of this sword in that aspect. but really noone knows the final versoin of ashbringer. it could kinda be like atiesh and giv different rewards for different classes, like give a purely dmg dealing version for warriors, and a healing and spell dmg version for pallys. dont see a hunter version likely... possible tho... watever just some ideas id been thinking of
Your idea that mograine is a warrior make a total backshot already. 1.CAN a WARRIOR Bubble(Divine shield) themselves when dangered?? NO! 2. Do warriors want to wipe out ALL the undeads?? NO! since some warriors ARE undeads.
But your idea with different kind of reward depending on class is well needed on this one because fighting over what class it belongs too is just frigging idiotic if oyu ask me.But no one did so I will STHU now
Sigh... As most others already said: All 2h sword-wielding classes can use this, so this weapon is not special designed for any specific class. You make it sound like all warriors can "WTFPAWN everythings with 2 swings". Sorry, but they can't. Ofcourse some can, with the right build, the right gear and the skills needed. What you apparently don't know tho, is that paladins can "WTFPAWN everythings with 2 swings" too. I have (when pvping) one-shot clothies and 2-shot leathers. I've even 2-shot hunters and shammies with my retribution paladin. So please... No class is better than any other. It's how you play it.
Well... I can't imagine that there is _any_ Naxx-raiding-guild that is stupid enough to take MS warriors with them. Everybody should know that MS's DPS is quite ridiculous compared to DW Fury.
So it's neither a warrior's, nor a paladin's, nor a hunter's weapon.
It's just FFA, like every other f*cking 2H-weapon.
The 2 we have gotten have gone to warriors, without any QQing from ret pallies, who are perfectly happy with their might of menethils. MS is a perfectly acceptable dps build in naxx, fights like Sapphiron become easier with it up.
It's funny when people who have never done the encounters for the items and probably never will debate priorities.
BTW Fury-DPS got nerfed to Hell due to Rage Generation under Flurry.
And btw, there is a 4% Meleedamagebuff in the ARMS-Tree
And BTW its okay, because anyone who can hold the sword should be able to roll on it. But what if the Legendary-Version just sux for Hunter? Look at Thunderfury so please...
Well, yes, you're right when it comes to the 4% debuff. But be serious - it's the same as with retribution paladins.
One single arms warrior and one single retribution paladin is enough to place their debuffs on the current target. The warrior delievers the 4% melee-damage-debuff, the paladin brings the 3%-crit-for-all-attacks, the 6% more healing in the retri's group and the f*cking nice Crusader Strike.
So both of them have got a nice support for the rest of the raidgroup but own DPS is quite low in both cases, compared to other DDs.
So there is not a single reason why a MS warrior should get it over a retribution specced paladin. Both classes offer decent DPS and nice debuffs.
But well, I agree with you when it comes to the hunter class. A sword, which offers nothing but a change-on-hit proc (just like CAB) should not walk into a hunter's hand. I see that Ashkandi is not THAT bad for hunters, same with e.g. Zin'Rokh. But a weapon like CAB and TF (without any kind of AP and agility) is NOT made for hunters.
The REAL ashbringer stats aren't there yet, the one on allakhazam was from when the game was released, they're obviously going to upgrade the stats on the legendary.
Real warriors either use 1h+shield (Prot) or dual wield (Fury). MS warriors (Arms) use twohanders, which is better for PVP, but crap for anything else. Palies/hunters? I'm a warrior and I don't care who gets it because it's useless for PVE.
Meh i had to rofl to the guy saying this is a Pally weapon. I guarentee you a Warrior would get this before a Paladin. Pallys use Sulfuras isint that bad enough? Now you gotta go say this is a Pally weapon also. Whats next Thunderfury is a Pally weapon?
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Warrior wep. Not hunter, pally, sham... idc, it's for a warrior. Screw the history, this is for a warrior. STFHU
If I ever see a nonwarrior with this, I will die (same goes for any other high DPS twohander or war dps gear, if u want to dps, get out of cheat mode and play war).
Retard... Paladin weapon, for sure. It's history says paladin all the way. If you dont care about the lore of the game, if you dont respect the lore of the game, just care about the stats and its drops, go play something else. Im sure you'll find enough games with maths and stats all over.
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The Lore says a paladin used it and got owned by his retarded son. Maybe if he didn't spend forever trying to stack up to a single attack with his crap buffs and SoC, he'd just have MS'd the little bastard and lived to see another day.
If pallies and hunters can get Ashkandi (Which was ANDUIN LOTHAR -- WARRIOR's weapon), then go to hell about pallies getting preference on this one. Get a mace or something with +int, and stand behind the real fighters!
Ok #1 the will of the ashbringer is an on equip aura. basicly, unequip it and you are good to go. #2 the quest is started already. but you can only get so far. the son you need to find is in outlands. witch we will be getting to in the expantion. You have to remember tho. this is not a BC weapon so all you can do i inchant it. there are no jewel slots.
In my eyes this is a paladin weapon. reguardless. it was made with pallies in mind. the original user was a pally. and the legendary vertion is all pally stuff.We allso do know know the full stats of the legendary vertion. Also when you go into SM cath with it equipped you get this neat thing where all the Scarlet guys will bow to you and are now your ally's. you go talk to the head guy there and a cut scene starts between him and his father. the highlord. anyway he kills his some and the quest starts. talk to that undead guy in the hidden room to get the next part. after that its into outlands.
And anyway. pallies are finally getting buffed in BC. so I think they made a weapon for us :P
When the quest for the corrupted Ashbringer is completed, the sword is purified and the legendary version 'Ashbringer' is the outcome. The sword is without a doubt a paladin weapon, purely because of the stats, it has plus damage and healing and plus holy damage. The fact that this sword goes to a class other than a paladin like a warrior! which happened in eu outlands server is a joke.
Pally weapon without a doubt? You're just dreaming, no guild will ever let pallies get this (from corrupted ashbringer) over warriors. IMO, just let the DKP do the talking, although a DPS 2h warrior will definitely do more DPS with this.
Its a Paladin weapon. I dont care if it hurts you, and how mouch it does. This sword lore says "paladin" all the way. Stats<Lore, so shut it.
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Its a Paladin weapon. I dont care if it hurts you, and how mouch it does. This sword lore says "paladin" all the way. Stats<Lore, so shut it.
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lore ftl.. if lore would say that all paladins use a Worn Shortsword.. or a Blumb family fishing pole.. would you care then ? dont involve lore because its not for paladins and you would lose on it anyway..! lol
it can be anyones who can wield a 2h sword if the person has higher dkp then the others and outbids everyone else being hunter pally or warrior it will go to that char
and i definetly think this wep is good for a pally in its legendary form because the holy dmg stacks with the pallys holy dmg and aura with raises the holy dmg
Not to be a negative nancy, but how do you know the holy damage stacks? No one has actually tested to see if it does? No, because no one has the upgraded form yet. :P
I'm not saying it won't, but there is always the possibility of it not stacking with holy damage.
I've heard some rumours about this sword, especially this one. Its the opinion of some that when you equip this sword, you get hated reputation with the argent dawn immedietly. Personally i don't see the down side to this unless you've grinding since the dawn of time to get to exalted but i just want to know if anyone can confrim this. Also whats behind bringing this sword to SM (normal) and then killing mograine?
THis is a very good blade that drops off of Mograine in Naxxaramus (yes needs a hard attunement) and has been only seen once by the guild Risen (gratz to the winner of blade) it is needed to get the Legendary Sword Ashbringer which was removed from the game to make this long and lore filled quest line of a story unheard of until now... This blade is taken to Mograine's (NOT SM CATH BOSS) other son...name unknown...where he will refore the blade for you into the legendary...im sure your gonna have to do alot for him before he gives you the strongest blade EVER (atleast with its NEW stats) this makes me want to give up Shammy Dual Wield for Shammy 1h 2h Sword use (besides shammy dual wield is going to suck anus without hit gear which means most shammys at least the smart ones will stay with there 2-handers) if you disagree BURN IN HECK!
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Might want to rethink that. Give up our dual wield if you want to. But try as you might, you'll never use a sword with a Shaman. Its not possible. Shaman cannot use swords.
I wouldn't be too worried about the -25 STA on the sword, even as a warrior... if you can even get this equipped, you've got most/all of the T3 set, and 250 health is a very little amount to pay for being able to swing this bad boy around.
STFU about "_______ WEAPON!!!" If you even have a chance at this weapon, you are in a top end raiding guild that uses DKP and has their own rules to what gear goes to who. Out of the few guilds that can even down the four horsemen, im possitive NONE of them care what you think about who this weapon should go to.
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i don't know where you are getting your information from.What you said about a DK getting the choise of a 1h 2h weapon an axe etc,etc is not the truth.The DK get a sword and it is a 2h sword you can not decide otherwise.It is the first quest you get when you first start a DK.If you are going to post something please make sure that you are giving the right info
Anyways, the correct stats and stuff are:
Corrupted Ashbringer
Binds when picked up
Unique
Two HandSword
259-389 DmgSpeed 3.60
(90.0 damage per second)
-25 Stamina
Durability: 120 / 120
Requires Level 60
Equip: Inflicts the will of the Ashbringer upon the wielder.
Equip: Increases your critical strike rating by 28.
Equip: Increases your hit rating by 10.
Chance on hit: Steals 185 to 215 life from target enemy.
"Blade of the Scarlet Highlord"
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Plegaria - lvl 43 Human Priest, Ahn'Qiraj (Currently retired)
Sneakdrake - lvl 60 Night Elf Rogue, Bloodfeather (Currently retired)
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Rhinox - lvl 22 Orc Warrior, Trollbane (Currently retired)
Moodun, lvl 41 Tauren Druid, Alonsus
Plegaria - lvl 43 Human Priest, Ahn'Qiraj (Currently retired)
Sneakdrake - lvl 60 Night Elf Rogue, Bloodfeather (Currently retired)
Bullzorz - lvl 34 Tauren Shaman, Frostwhisper (Permanently retired)
Rhinox - lvl 22 Orc Warrior, Trollbane (Currently retired)
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Really, everyone who can wear two-hand may wear this Ashbringer.
Moreover tanks have more HP so -250 health is nothing
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2. Do warriors want to wipe out ALL the undeads?? NO! since some warriors ARE undeads.
But your idea with different kind of reward depending on class is well needed on this one because fighting over what class it belongs too is just frigging idiotic if oyu ask me.But no one did so I will STHU now
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Where can i find the @#%^ing Quest @ Outlands >.<
You make it sound like all warriors can "WTFPAWN everythings with 2 swings". Sorry, but they can't. Ofcourse some can, with the right build, the right gear and the skills needed. What you apparently don't know tho, is that paladins can "WTFPAWN everythings with 2 swings" too. I have (when pvping) one-shot clothies and 2-shot leathers. I've even 2-shot hunters and shammies with my retribution paladin.
So please... No class is better than any other. It's how you play it.
Everybody should know that MS's DPS is quite ridiculous compared to DW Fury.
So it's neither a warrior's, nor a paladin's, nor a hunter's weapon.
It's just FFA, like every other f*cking 2H-weapon.
It's funny when people who have never done the encounters for the items and probably never will debate priorities.
Edited, Jan 8th 2007 3:27am by RustyCaps
And btw, there is a 4% Meleedamagebuff in the ARMS-Tree
And BTW its okay, because anyone who can hold the sword should be able to roll on it. But what if the Legendary-Version just sux for Hunter? Look at Thunderfury so please...
But be serious - it's the same as with retribution paladins.
One single arms warrior and one single retribution paladin is enough to place their debuffs on the current target.
The warrior delievers the 4% melee-damage-debuff, the paladin brings the 3%-crit-for-all-attacks, the 6% more healing in the retri's group and the f*cking nice Crusader Strike.
So both of them have got a nice support for the rest of the raidgroup but own DPS is quite low in both cases, compared to other DDs.
So there is not a single reason why a MS warrior should get it over a retribution specced paladin. Both classes offer decent DPS and nice debuffs.
But well, I agree with you when it comes to the hunter class.
A sword, which offers nothing but a change-on-hit proc (just like CAB) should not walk into a hunter's hand.
I see that Ashkandi is not THAT bad for hunters, same with e.g. Zin'Rokh.
But a weapon like CAB and TF (without any kind of AP and agility) is NOT made for hunters.
regular ashbringer or corrupted?
the -25 stam worries me....
but this does so much more damage ..
but the ashbringer has the words nices proc (+700 fore damage, pwnd)
answers on which is better plz
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If I ever see a nonwarrior with this, I will die (same goes for any other high DPS twohander or war dps gear, if u want to dps, get out of cheat mode and play war).
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If you dont care about the lore of the game, if you dont respect the lore of the game, just care about the stats and its drops, go play something else.
Im sure you'll find enough games with maths and stats all over.
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If pallies and hunters can get Ashkandi (Which was ANDUIN LOTHAR -- WARRIOR's weapon), then go to hell about pallies getting preference on this one. Get a mace or something with +int, and stand behind the real fighters!
Edited, Dec 13th 2006 12:52pm by Gestahlt
In my eyes this is a paladin weapon. reguardless. it was made with pallies in mind. the original user was a pally. and the legendary vertion is all pally stuff.We allso do know know the full stats of the legendary vertion. Also when you go into SM cath with it equipped you get this neat thing where all the Scarlet guys will bow to you and are now your ally's. you go talk to the head guy there and a cut scene starts between him and his father. the highlord. anyway he kills his some and the quest starts. talk to that undead guy in the hidden room to get the next part. after that its into outlands.
And anyway. pallies are finally getting buffed in BC. so I think they made a weapon for us :P
Stats<Lore, so shut it.
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But then again, I never did care about the opinion from a elements shammy.
Stats<Lore, so shut it.
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Thank you thats all I wanted to say =D.
it can be anyones who can wield a 2h sword if the person has higher dkp then the others and outbids everyone else being hunter pally or warrior it will go to that char
and i definetly think this wep is good for a pally in its legendary form because the holy dmg stacks with the pallys holy dmg and aura with raises the holy dmg
I'm not saying it won't, but there is always the possibility of it not stacking with holy damage.
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Edited, Nov 7th 2006 at 1:39pm PST by HiToYouTo
Edited, Nov 9th 2006 at 3:52am PST by jarnotjuh
Look again ;)
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It definately pwnz on a hunter.. :P
FFS..
is it a GM weaopn or semothing?
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