Guise of the Devourer
Binds when picked up
HeadLeather
276 Armor
+36 Stamina
+19 Agility
+17 Strength
Requires Level 60 Equip: Increases your dodge rating by 12.
10.41% Chance To Drop. (2,474 in 23,775) Found on 3 creatures in 1 zones (average creature level: 1).This item is found on creatures which usually require more than one group to kill. This item can only be found on specific creatures.
Human female rogue just got this on Sylvanas. No Druids or other Rogues wanted it so I took it on the strength of its Power Rangers looks. Now my eyes match my blue bug.
This can cause to the adavantage to rogues and druids in many ways. Althou i am a rogue i would say mainly feral druid in bear form use !!!! thats just my opinion its nice for sword rogues thou i mean really nice !!!! so theres a side for both !!!!
now THIS would be nice on a feral druid. Although if the feral druid had it or better, it would be nice on a rogue, 17 str and 19 agil, dont forget that rogue are different. They get dmg boost from both sr and agi so this would be pretty nice.
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If jimmy cracked corn, and nobody cares, why does he have a song, and i dont?
Druids taunting Boss/Adds back to tanks from the DPS group can be handy on Sartura. And Druids can be awsome as damage soakers on Huhuran with some NR. Maybe you should actually understand the encounters before you start writing bullsh*t down :)
Go brax! Btw how are you gonna deal dmg when you are dead since no healer will even attempt healing you because of your behaviour?
Doesn't surprise me that a rogue says this, not at all. Have you any tiny idea how much fun it is to let off just a minor rejuvenation or renew and then find three rogues, at least 1 warrior and some casters insta-kill you because you bothered healing somebody in PvP?
Imagine that, or even better try it out, first THEN come back and say what you said.
Well offering you image of this helm on a female NE druid. I am not feral (19p on it), but as our feral druids were not on raid and out of 5 druids I had most points on feral side as well I am often in forms, people were cool with me bididng on it. I have already earned nickname as "Power Chicken" and "Powerranger" - the 1st one must be because I am really a balance ...
Last I heard Rogues like dealing damage. The Bloodfang fairly obviously offers better damage -- not to mention a possible set bonus. If I could get Bloodfang for catform I would.... but alas..
A druid gets the following from the Guise: 250 Armor x 360%+10%(talent) in Bearform! 250 Hitpoints (+5% if Tauren), necessary for Bear. 34 Attack Power (more with Heart of the Wild) in Bear. or 53 Attack Power in Cat.
Why the hell would you obstruct who this was obviously intended for from obtaining it?
I wont even get into how much more badass the Deathdealer Helm is for rogues than this....
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Vyasa - 68 Tauren Druid - Kirin Tor Arcanum - 60 Human Mage - Retired I went to a restaurant and I saw a guy wearing a leather jacket, eating a hamburger, drinking a glass of milk. I said, "Dude, you are a cow. The metamorphosis is complete. Don't fall asleep or I will tip you over."
I love when people blatantly try and correct your math. You do understand it is a percentage increase and the total actual armor gained increases proportionately the greater your total armor is? GTFH.
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Vyasa - 68 Tauren Druid - Kirin Tor Arcanum - 60 Human Mage - Retired I went to a restaurant and I saw a guy wearing a leather jacket, eating a hamburger, drinking a glass of milk. I said, "Dude, you are a cow. The metamorphosis is complete. Don't fall asleep or I will tip you over."
it's actually a 5.06 modifier with thick hide. the 10% is calculated after bear armor, so it's 4.6*1.1 = 5.06, or in the case of this helm, 1284 armor (accounting for agility). definitely the best tanking helm available.
throw an agility arcanum on this thing for even more fun.
They made it ugly to make the druids actually want to go into bearform, which itself is fakking ugly, so i let the druids choose, cockroach or bear with misplaced muscles.
As a rogue myself... this is feral druid and NOTHING else.
As a rogue, i completely agree that this would benefit feral druids far more than it would us. As was stated, the deathdealer's helm from the quests is much better, and so is the bloodfang hood. If you're in a guild that can get this far in aq, then you shouldn't have any problem downing ony for the bf helm, or farming aq for the items needed to get your deathdealer.
Being a bear tank; I can say - this is the best bear head piece currently in the game, hands down. It got insane AC (With talents we get five times the original armor value, in bear form), it got insane stamina, it got +dodge (only way to compensate for lack of parry), and it got both strenght + agility, which is mainly for aggro control but agility also provides some dodge and armor.
This is the ultimate head piece for a bear tank, it's the perfect head slot item. It's as good as it gets, so stop whining about druids and loot, and go get your Bloodfang stuff instead, you tiresome rogues ;)
On a sidenote, rogues shouldn't need very much healing.. I hear they have an ability called first aid, and that it can be used to regain life. Then again, it's just a rumour, I wouldn't know.
I love how now all of the sudden almost any nice leather is for FERAL druids. Go heal me and let me do the dmg. How many druids are needed to tank in AQ. Thought so.
1) I would NEVER heal you, you'd have the most insanely high repair bill on earth, anyone who'd target someone as disrespectful to other classes as you are, is insane.
2) last time I saw an extra 100 armor or so help a rogue was ... never.
3) I've been called on to tank in AQ20 and I've tanked adds in 40 as well to keep the swarmguards and warriors that spawn off twin emps trash from molesting our priests.
I am a feral druid .... and I TANK AND GO KITTY IN ALL END GAME INSTANCES!!!
Hmmm ... yeah ... thought so ...
I have a group of DPS warrs and rogues that fight to get in my group. Not only do I buff up their DMG, I also pop out and ... OMG ... HEAL THEM! But if you were anywhere near me ... I dont care if it meant the difference of us being the first in the world to kill Kel'Thuzad ... and you needed a heal for us to beat him ... I'd tell you to go screw yourself and heal myself instead, and so would my boyfriend's priest.
Besides ... who needs you for a rogue when I have DPS warrs that do more DMG and last a hell of a lot longer!
I am a feral druid .... and I TANK AND GO KITTY IN ALL END GAME INSTANCES!!!
Hmmm ... yeah ... thought so ...
I have a group of DPS warrs and rogues that fight to get in my group. Not only do I buff up their DMG, I also pop out and ... OMG ... HEAL THEM! But if you were anywhere near me ... I dont care if it meant the difference of us being the first in the world to kill Kel'Thuzad ... and you needed a heal for us to beat him ... I'd tell you to go screw yourself and heal myself instead, and so would my boyfriend's priest.
Besides ... who needs you for a rogue when I have DPS warrs that do more DMG and last a hell of a lot longer!
I love how now all of the sudden almost any nice leather is for FERAL druids. Go heal me and let me do the dmg. How many druids are needed to tank in AQ. Thought so.
Druids taunting Boss/Adds back to tanks from the DPS group can be handy on Sartura. And Druids can be awsome as damage soakers on Huhuran with some NR. Maybe you should actually understand the encounters before you start writing bullsh*t down :)
Don't tell anyone, but those green balls druids shoot are actually photon torpedoes. We just use the name "wrath" to make it sound more in tune with nature. Moonfire and starfire too are just Enterprise shooting phasers from orbit. :D
Got this today and I'm a very happy druid ^_^. None of the rogues had any complaints about a me getting this item. One of the priest actually said something like "Oh good the tank got it".
Let the druids have this one, concidering that the Deathdealer's Helm is far better that this for a rogue, and they will get it while the druids gets this one.
Every druid with the slighest respect for his feralness would kill for this one.
I love how now all of the sudden almost any nice leather is for FERAL druids. Go heal me and let me do the dmg. How many druids are needed to tank in AQ. Thought so.
Well Considering the fact that rogues have far better gear. IE their tier 2 off Onyxia...
Look at feral druids.. I've passed on cenarion and Stormrage because its suited for resto / balance druids. Feral Tanks look for 3 things on their gear. High armor, High amount of Stamina, and Agility or dodge %.
Dodge is the only way we can avoid attacks.
Rogues get more AP from agility, not to mention that it gives them Armor, Dodge, and Crit %. Whereas str only gives you 1ap. So how would you justify that this rogue loot?
I am a rogue and don't care if this goes to a feral druid...but...
Get your information right, ESPECIALLY before you go evaluating gear's effectiveness on other classes. Rogues get 1 AP from each point of AGI, no more. We get equal AP from equal amounts of STR and AGI.
wow, those stats are very nice. a ton of stamina and a sizable amount of strength and agility.
i can already tell theres going to be conflict between feral druids and rogues who feel one or the other deserve it more. something tells me hunters will get in the mix too.
Obviously it's not too shabby for either rogues or druids... rogues <3 stamina as well. I just think that Blizz has geared this towards druids based on the insane amount of armor... Dire Bear and thick hide make this... well... it's so good it should be illegal. Just imagine this combined with Malfurion's Blessed Bulwark. LET THE DAMAGE MITIGATION BEGIN!!
Edit: I GOT it, I fekking got it woohoo ,and on the day I got to exhalted also - I love my life.
Edited, Sep 25th 2006 at 9:30am EDT by imradil
Roar, baby, roar!
No one even tried to contend me for it either.
Espically since I had JUST done an amazing job of tanking (not off tanking, MAIN tanking) the Prophet.
Silly rogue. /pat
Druids taunting Boss/Adds back to tanks from the DPS group can be handy on Sartura. And Druids can be awsome as damage soakers on Huhuran with some NR. Maybe you should actually understand the encounters before you start writing bullsh*t down :)
Go brax!
Btw how are you gonna deal dmg when you are dead since no healer will even attempt healing you because of your behaviour?
Perhaps if you took the time and actually helped when your healer was being attacked you'd get said healing. Till the stfu plx <3
Have you any tiny idea how much fun it is to let off just a minor rejuvenation or renew and then find three rogues, at least 1 warrior and some casters insta-kill you because you bothered healing somebody in PvP?
Imagine that, or even better try it out, first THEN come back and say what you said.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6669/wowscrnshot0605060728330kd.jpg
Edited, Sun Jun 4 23:39:26 2006
Was kind of lucky, i was the onlyone who wanted this other than a Trail drood (pwnt!) so i got it :D couldn't have spent my DKP better ^^
250 Armor
+36 Stamina
+19 Agility
+17 Strength
1% Dodge
Bloodfang
183 Armor (-67 Armor, oh noez)
+25 Stamina (-11) (-110 HP)
+27 Agility (+8) (+8 AP)
+19 Strength (+2) (+2 AP)
1% Crit
Last I heard Rogues like dealing damage. The Bloodfang fairly obviously offers better damage -- not to mention a possible set bonus. If I could get Bloodfang for catform I would.... but alas..
A druid gets the following from the Guise:
250 Armor x 360%+10%(talent) in Bearform!
250 Hitpoints (+5% if Tauren), necessary for Bear.
34 Attack Power (more with Heart of the Wild) in Bear.
or 53 Attack Power in Cat.
Why the hell would you obstruct who this was obviously intended for from obtaining it?
I wont even get into how much more badass the Deathdealer Helm is for rogues than this....
Arcanum - 60 Human Mage - Retired
I went to a restaurant and I saw a guy wearing a leather jacket, eating a hamburger, drinking a glass of milk. I said, "Dude, you are a cow. The metamorphosis is complete. Don't fall asleep or I will tip you over."
its 250 + 3.60* 250...
we get 360% bonus AC.. which makes it a 4.6 modifier (or 4.7 specked) and the agility adidionaly grants some armor..
and heart of the wild adds stamina in bear , and str in cat..
so 1175 AC 432 hp in bear (w hotw),
and 57~58 atp in cat
Arcanum - 60 Human Mage - Retired
I went to a restaurant and I saw a guy wearing a leather jacket, eating a hamburger, drinking a glass of milk. I said, "Dude, you are a cow. The metamorphosis is complete. Don't fall asleep or I will tip you over."
throw an agility arcanum on this thing for even more fun.
They made it ugly to make the druids actually want to go into bearform, which itself is fakking ugly, so i let the druids choose, cockroach or bear with misplaced muscles.
As a rogue myself... this is feral druid and NOTHING else.
dodge and stamina is a rogues only defense beside vanish. and it also gives ok stats
best bear head piece currently in the game,
hands down. It got insane AC (With talents
we get five times the original armor value,
in bear form), it got insane stamina, it got
+dodge (only way to compensate for lack of
parry), and it got both strenght + agility,
which is mainly for aggro control but agility
also provides some dodge and armor.
This is the ultimate head piece for a bear tank,
it's the perfect head slot item. It's as good
as it gets, so stop whining about druids and
loot, and go get your Bloodfang stuff instead,
you tiresome rogues ;)
On a sidenote, rogues shouldn't need very much
healing.. I hear they have an ability called
first aid, and that it can be used to regain
life. Then again, it's just a rumour, I wouldn't know.
*grins*
Edited, Mon Apr 17 05:19:37 2006
1) I would NEVER heal you, you'd have the most insanely high repair bill on earth, anyone who'd target someone as disrespectful to other classes as you are, is insane.
2) last time I saw an extra 100 armor or so help a rogue was ... never.
3) I've been called on to tank in AQ20 and I've tanked adds in 40 as well to keep the swarmguards and warriors that spawn off twin emps trash from molesting our priests.
Hope he's stocked up on RC bandages.
I am a feral druid .... and I TANK AND GO KITTY IN ALL END GAME INSTANCES!!!
Hmmm ... yeah ... thought so ...
I have a group of DPS warrs and rogues that fight to get in my group. Not only do I buff up their DMG, I also pop out and ... OMG ... HEAL THEM! But if you were anywhere near me ... I dont care if it meant the difference of us being the first in the world to kill Kel'Thuzad ... and you needed a heal for us to beat him ... I'd tell you to go screw yourself and heal myself instead, and so would my boyfriend's priest.
Besides ... who needs you for a rogue when I have DPS warrs that do more DMG and last a hell of a lot longer!
I am a feral druid .... and I TANK AND GO KITTY IN ALL END GAME INSTANCES!!!
Hmmm ... yeah ... thought so ...
I have a group of DPS warrs and rogues that fight to get in my group. Not only do I buff up their DMG, I also pop out and ... OMG ... HEAL THEM! But if you were anywhere near me ... I dont care if it meant the difference of us being the first in the world to kill Kel'Thuzad ... and you needed a heal for us to beat him ... I'd tell you to go screw yourself and heal myself instead, and so would my boyfriend's priest.
Besides ... who needs you for a rogue when I have DPS warrs that do more DMG and last a hell of a lot longer!
...yet the first one to make me turn off Helm graphics...
OMFG THIS LOOKS UGLYYYYY! So bloody Star Trekish!!!!
Druids taunting Boss/Adds back to tanks from the DPS group can be handy on Sartura. And Druids can be awsome as damage soakers on Huhuran with some NR. Maybe you should actually understand the encounters before you start writing bullsh*t down :)
Type1: Whinges about why druids get any gear that they would mildly suit even though they could get much better
Type2: Asks why there even is feral gear
Type3: Accually doesn't mind that there is some feral gear and acepts it considering there is better for them
Which Type sounds more Mature you tell me
http://www.hangaari.org/MDK/wow/Guise.jpg
Edited, Mon Mar 13 03:56:53 2006
Every druid with the slighest respect for his feralness would kill for this one.
~Skullcrusher~
Look at feral druids.. I've passed on cenarion and Stormrage because its suited for resto / balance druids. Feral Tanks look for 3 things on their gear. High armor, High amount of Stamina, and Agility or dodge %.
Dodge is the only way we can avoid attacks.
Rogues get more AP from agility, not to mention that it gives them Armor, Dodge, and Crit %. Whereas str only gives you 1ap. So how would you justify that this rogue loot?
Because its leather?
Get your information right, ESPECIALLY before you go evaluating gear's effectiveness on other classes. Rogues get 1 AP from each point of AGI, no more. We get equal AP from equal amounts of STR and AGI.
~Gwenndolynn of Suramar.
Thank you.
"Dear Blizz, give us an occasion to have more dmg reduction, since feral/bear specced druids will now reach 20k armor without bigger problems
Regards,
Druid Community"
;)
Warrio (fullAQ) vs Bear (Full AQ). Interesting :)
i can already tell theres going to be conflict between feral druids and rogues who feel one or the other deserve it more. something tells me hunters will get in the mix too.
gogo bears!
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