Drake Fang Talisman

Merchant Sell Price: 36g 46s 41c
Merchant Buy Price: 9g 11s 60c
Item Level: 75

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Drake Fang Talisman
Binds when picked up
TrinketMiscellaneous
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases attack power by 56. 
Equip: Increases your hit rating by 20. 
Equip: Increases your dodge rating by 12. 


Drachenzahntalisman Dije de colmillo de draco Talisman croc-de-drake 비룡이빨 부적 龙牙饰物 龍牙咒符
Updated: 2009-08-04 17:11:38 by: ellofen


16.39% Chance To Drop. (2,605 in 15,891)
Found on 1 creatures in 1 zones.This item is found on creatures which usually require more than one group to kill.
This item can only be found on specific creatures.

Blackwing Lair (16.39% - Hide)

NameLevelDrop RateDrop %
Ebonroc?? Elite2,605of 15,89116.39%


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Posted: Jan 9th 2007 7:52am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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This item is really great for warriors, rogues, hunters and now shammies too. Hell even feral druids can put it to good use. However, since it is such a spectacular DPS trinket (even in comparison with loot from AQ and Naxx), classes who do DPS in pve probably get priority. ;p

But it isn't to say that if you are a druid or a shaman that you can't have one, im sure dkp is the final determinant anyhow. ;p
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Shamans FTW
Posted: Dec 21st 2006 1:48pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Duel wielding shaman here and this is a beast of a trinket for us since the hit% is so good. My guild gave shamans priority on this little beauty,
Shamans FTW
Posted: Jan 5th 2007 8:27pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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My guild gave shamans priority on this little beauty


Your guild is terrible then.
Hunter Viewpoint (from a non-greedy one ;p)
Posted: Dec 3rd 2006 10:55am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Excellent item for a hunter.

Key items to note with similar stats would be:
*Royal Seal of Royal Seal of Eldre'Thalas (our class trinket from book quest)
**Stats: 48 RAP, 10 FR

*Hand of Justice (just nice for the AP)
**Stats: 20 AP, Chance on melee hit to gain an extra attack.

*Blackhands Breadth
**Stats: +Two Percent chance to Crit.

*Drake Fang Talisman
**Stats: 56 AP, Improves chance to hit by 2%, Increases chance to Dodge by 1%.

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It is my personal belief that Rogues should not have -higher- prio on this item over a hunter. Both classes can benefit from this trinket in a huge way.

I imagine 90 percent of the hunters who get this will wear either it + class trinket, or it + blackhands breadth. Either combo is fantastic.

--> also, quick overview of hunter statistics
Hunters need Ranged ACC, Ranged ATT, and Crit to be effective as possible in end-game raids.
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Hunter Viewpoint (from a non-greedy one ;p)
Posted: May 17th 2007 6:06pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Err, do you see the dodge you @#%^tard? Rogues are a melee class, hunters isn't. Go home.
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+hit
Posted: Nov 28th 2006 11:12am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I would like to point out that +hit doesnt affect feral druids
+hit
Posted: Dec 13th 2006 2:35pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Well the +hit does affect a druid in form, before it was only the +hit on weapons that didnt affect but after this patch im pretty sure it even affect shifted druids
Weee!!
Posted: Nov 26th 2006 4:43pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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got this today =D second ebonroc kill!! im one happy rogue ... hunters got kinda pissed tho (rogue pri)
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Posted: Nov 24th 2006 9:24pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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i got 2 of these :) on priv realm
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Rogue
Posted: Nov 21st 2006 6:35pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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this is hands down the best rogue triket in the game. Fury warriors and hunters go away.
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after the patch
Posted: Dec 13th 2006 12:07pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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this is a pretty damn excellent item for hunters. now that we have to focus on getting +AP instead of agility, this is a great lil trinket. esp for pvp. im not saying fury and rogues shouldnt get it, but i think its a huge toss up.
Hi.
Posted: Nov 13th 2006 1:15pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Hunters and MS Warriors who take this over rogues and dw warriors are selfish. Hunter have MUCH more AP than rogues and their % to hit caps much lower than rogues and warriors.
Drop rate absolutely sucks....
Posted: Oct 5th 2006 5:56am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Now cleared BWL more than 32 times and only seen this drop once - the very first time.
I'm sure Ebonroc hates me as it only seems to drop for my guild when I'm not on the raid. :(
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Posted: Sep 30th 2006 11:52am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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IMO this is a warrior / rogue trinket.. not a hunter trinket.

56 attack power means a lot less to a warrior / hunter than it does a rogue,

a chance to dodge and 2 to hit is a lot more useful for a rogue or warrior than for a hunter

Im not saying this is bad for hunters, im just saying warriors and rogues can get a lot more from it
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Posted: Oct 18th 2006 8:43pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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What the hell are you talking about, 56 attack power doesn't mean as much to a Warrior as it does to a Rogue? Warriors, who get the vast majority of their damage from white damage, and most of the rest from Bloodthirst (d'you know what BT is?) and Whirlwind (weapon damage) and Overpower? Other than Execute, Heroic Strike, and Cleave, AP is the biggest factor on EVERY SINGLE THING A DPS WARRIOR DOES.
hehe
Posted: Sep 27th 2006 6:57am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I am a hunter and I got this our last BWL clear. The one before this went to a hunter as well and the next two times it drops it will go to hunters as well. We don't have priority on it, it is open to all classes with DKP, we just have a lot of it, and that is how it works. Quit arguing over who can use it the most. Rogues, hunters and warriors all drool over this trinket. Let DKP decide and be happy when it is your turn :D
yeah
Posted: Sep 24th 2006 12:47pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I got thit today, and I´m a rogue, I got so freaking happy it´s insane
cheers
yea
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Yes yes, I got it as guild-first while being a MS warrior, simply a matter of DKP and that I'm stubborn. But as the man below me already stated, I don't maximize the use of it, the +2 hit are much more welcome on the dual wielders but even I can miss, so it's not like all stats aren't being utilised.
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yea
Posted: Sep 21st 2006 2:39am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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amagah scheal me, u stole it from me u coon!
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Good stuff
Posted: Aug 25th 2006 6:46pm | Edited: Aug 25th 2006 6:47pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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This is a pretty common drop for my guild. Usually drops about 1/4 of the time. Kicks butt on my fury warrior. I think rogues and fury warriors should get this before an MS warrior does. The may do good burst damage, but I've never seen one top a fury on the damage meter or even come close to fury damage.

Edited, Aug 25th 2006 at 6:47pm EDT by Arttemistwo
warrior rogue
Posted: Aug 9th 2006 7:53pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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rogue or warrior trinket, as a druid i would take this for my pvp set but only if no1 else wanted it
Quiet
Posted: Jul 7th 2006 1:12pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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An awful lot of arguing over what class this should go to for an item that has the second highest drop rate off this particular boss. Go argue about something like quick strike ring which ive seen twice in about 6+ months of mc.

But seriously though every raid is different and allows different rules you trying to force others how loot should be handled is just ridiculas. If you dont like the way your raid does it yell at them instead. Grats to all the Happy Feral druids and DPS Warrions that have this. Grats to all Rogues and Hunters that have this too it helps us all the same. Screw off anyone that is pissed off at other classes because they lost the bid on this item.
nice
Posted: Jul 1st 2006 12:58am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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only problem is, in my guild at least, the very few times (2) we've had this trinket drop, hunters went all out and hijack it for insanely high DKPs; yeah, i know, if you got the points to purchase it, you've won it..
Posting from Montreal, Canada
nor rogues, warriors, paladins or huntertrinket
Posted: Jun 29th 2006 11:59am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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clearly a magetrinket, the % hit is awesome so our spells get less resisted also is the attackpower nice when we have to go melee on spellbinders in bwl.
drop rate...
Posted: Jun 15th 2006 3:00pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I have done over 30 bwl clears and have seen this drop twice :(
100% drop
Posted: Jun 11th 2006 1:53am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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if u want this thing come join my guild on Laughing Skull...its the only thing ebonroc ever fricken drops
tanking
Posted: Jun 9th 2006 10:16am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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This is actually a tanking item :D if u dont agree, think about the stats again ;)
tanking
Posted: Aug 20th 2006 11:13pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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LOL YOU F***ING NOOB !

Go get http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=19431 and STFU..
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Rogue here, just got it
Posted: Mar 16th 2006 11:46pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Just got it off Ebonroc.. Warrior wanted it aswell but I had more dkp so got lucky; as I also got Cloak of Firemaw (50 AP 12 Stam) 30 min before that. <3 the AP boost :)
I'm a warrior...
Posted: Mar 2nd 2006 6:50am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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And I'd bid for this, little chance of getting to BWL for me but if I had the chance I'd bid on it.
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Feral druids
Posted: Feb 28th 2006 12:18am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Quote:
(You being feral I would recommend alot of spirit
and maybe some mana/tick so you little mana pool
regens better)


Feral druids have a talent that gives them +20% mana in caster form. This means that no resto druid will have more mana than an evenly geared feral druid. What did you mean, exactly?
RE: Feral druids
Posted: May 13th 2006 1:32am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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maybe he's referring to feral gear having less int? no idea
lol
Posted: Feb 17th 2006 10:08am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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taunting in BWL? :P 'x is immune'

btw, nice of you to go feral, but when u pop to
casterform to heal you should get yourself a nice
staff, u can switch weapons in combat so you can
get a good staff and switch it when needed.

(You being feral I would recommend alot of spirit
and maybe some mana/tick so you little mana pool
regens better)
RE: lol
Posted: Mar 5th 2006 8:36pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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(You being feral I would recommend alot of spirit and maybe some mana/tick so you little mana pool regens better)


Tell that to my friend, a feral druid who had 8.5k mana unbuffed before he got any epics.
RE: lol
Posted: Nov 24th 2006 12:07pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I call BS on Blue Leather/cloth which can hit 8.5k Unbuffed.

Even if you go apesh*t and enchant your blue wep with 22 int, and every other slot with + int or + mana, no way in hell you can hit 8.5k unbuffed.

Most T3 priest, Mages, Druids, Locks barely hit 8-9k unbuffed and we are talking some of the best geared toons in the game vs your super friend with no epics.
RE: lol
Posted: Jul 7th 2006 12:49pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I think he means for the weapon the you are gonna switch to when you switch to caster in combat. I don't know his post doesn't make alot of since and he doesn't understand ferals all that well me thinks.
RE: lol
Posted: Feb 20th 2006 2:45am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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certain bosses in bwl can be taunted, and need to be *example- ebonroc (yeah that's who drops this item) if you don't have offtanks taunting him from hitting the main tank, you won't kill him*

you probably shouldn't comment on things you don't know about, but that's just my opinion

feel free to be stupid and laugh at others because you don't know any better

Edited, Mon Feb 20 00:56:09 2006
lurw it!
Posted: Feb 17th 2006 9:22am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Did get that when it dropped for us for the 2nd time. First drop went to one of our DPS Warriors, 2nd drop - to me, feral druid :-) And I absolutely love it.

And yes.. my guild is great. They accept be being feral and I have equal rights to bid on anything I want as rogues/warriors/hunters. I tend to pass on healing gear drops though. Fine with me. I love being feral and I raid as feral. First time we downed Nefarion I was feral whole fight (in feral gear ofc). I've offtanked Phase1 adds, DPSed Neffie and offtanked Infernals/20% zerg. Ofc. When we had Priest Call I was popping caster to support healing with even as little as 3k mana I had.

I've tanked Vaelastrasz (MT1 and MT4), tanked Broodlord Lashlayer, taunttanked Ebonroc. This all is doable for ferals. Only obstacle are people with limited imagination...

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lurw it!
Posted: Aug 17th 2006 11:56am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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u should be shot in the head many many times if u got it over a rogue...
physical combat
Posted: Jan 30th 2006 6:46pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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"Shawnakova" was right. It's for every physical combat class.

The only limitation in addition to this that I'd accept as justified was a limitation to players that actually do a lot of damage in the raid.
This would exclude resto-druids, resto-shamans, paladins, maintanks (which should wear tank stuff).
beserker stance
Posted: Jan 30th 2006 2:28am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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warriors in beserker stance have reduced agro, its passive, we dont have to hit vanish or feint its always on in beserker.
RE: beserker stance
Posted: Feb 18th 2006 6:07pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
Yes, so do rogues. We have a 20% deduction on normal threat generation, same deal.. But when you're pumping out massive dps it's simply not enough, evidenced by the Fury warriors constantly pulling agro and dying, where the rogues do not.
y warriors shouldnt have it?
Posted: Dec 30th 2005 8:37pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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no idea, i would want it myself aswell if i was a warrior for nice dps output.

but! warriors arent supposed to do dps in pve are they? meat shield.
dps warriors(fury or w/e) who outdmg rogues are bad warriors since rogues got skills like vanish/feignt. warriors dont have anything so will end up in them having aggro = they die or need loads of healing.

but hey thats for pve

in pvp it would rock for all melee (and hunter) classes
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y warriors shouldnt have it?
Posted: Jul 7th 2006 12:57pm | Edited: Jul 7th 2006 1:15pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Warriors arent supposed to do damage in pve? /boggle Most raids consist of 1 warrior MT aka meat shield and then an OT or 2 for some fights. There are limited fights that do need all the warriors in the raid to tank, but other than these fights what are those warriors that are not MT OT supposed to do dmg like a feral druid in resto gear? Rogues in plate FTW!

Edited, Jul 7th 2006 at 1:16pm EDT by DonOctavio
RE: y warriors shouldnt have it?
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dps warriors(fury or w/e) who outdmg rogues are bad warriors since rogues got skills like vanish/feignt. warriors dont have anything so will end up in them having aggro = they die or need loads of healing.


Thing is you see, warriors have this thing called 'plate'. It stops them from dying in two seconds when they get hit.
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lol fury warriors are useless. even with a 2h weapon i out dmg most rogues with my fury build. FUry owns
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Y would you 2H in fury build? Fury needs faster weap to build rage -> Arms build to weild 2H for huge damage.
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there are some fast 2H weapons, and 2h Fury out-dps Arms-warrior anytime.

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It mostly depends if you are able to get a good amount of attack power and +hit chance to make it worth one of the things, its not only about weapon and weapon speeds
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eyy
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This is a rouge-trinket
Burn in hell druids.

It is a rouge trinket and give it to my shaman.
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RE: eyy
Posted: Dec 27th 2005 12:40pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Oops. double posted.

Edited, Tue Dec 27 10:43:09 2005
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RE: eyy
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I've never heard of this "rouge" class. Are they coming in the patch?

I hope to stick this with my Blackhand's Breadth for my trinket slots.
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greed
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Fury warriors DPS like an all green rogue in raids. Fury warriors are a waste of space. two hand MS warriors can do more dmg and don't waste huge upgrades to ROGUES. stop being selfish warriors. you've got several epic trinkets styleen's impeding scarab, onyxia blood. stick to tanking and leave the DPS to the classes that are supposed to. Rogues get ZERO worthwhile epic trinkets endgame other than this and the 'okay' new cooldown trinket that adds uber poison proc rate...which isn't that special.
not to mention the warrior specific trinket...
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greed
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Try raiding sometime. Fury warriors hit MUCH MUCH harder than rogues ever will when geared properly. I've never seen a rogue hit 1500 DPS in a raid, while I have seen multiple fury warriors do it. Rogues are in raids for their stuns, and early on for their fairly high melee dps. Later on when fury warriors get geared they blow rogues out of the water for dps. Go past ZG and find out.
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RE: greed
Posted: May 14th 2006 11:25am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Sounds a bit like someone lost this to a fury war, huh? Anyways, If blizz didnt want rogues to dps as well, they would not have put the fury tree in there. Im sick of people saying fury wars are just wannabe rogues. They are a great addition into any raid, and I would be glad to have them in mine. Case closed.
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RE: greed
Posted: Nov 8th 2005 6:28am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Hmm, isn't it you who's greedy by saying that it's rogue only?

Anyway, fury warriors can outdps MS warriors with ease on raids (with comparable gear). MS gives high burst damage, which is more usefull for PvP.
RE: greed
Posted: Nov 7th 2005 10:10am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Moot point really. It's got a high drop rate so anyone that wants it will get it soon enough.

Posting from Toronto
RE: greed
Posted: Oct 23rd 2005 3:22pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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so hit and AP doesn't help MS warrior?
DKP ftw if a DW warrior want to use his dkp for this its his choice IMO.
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This item ist also Perfect for Dualwield Warriors like me.
blah
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A fury warriors wet dream now that the +hit cap is being removed, omg.
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LOL
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U all forgot bout druids... Loads of feral druids drools at this one and if it dropped for me i would clearly roll on it since it rulez with my cat form!!!!
sdg
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lol
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rogue!
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3x as good as any trinket in the game
and i'm glad i have it
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nice
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rogue.

undeadglory - destromath
not just rogue/warrior
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Hope you don't mind the karma bomb considering you:

A) Posted something stupid,
B) Posted something in direct conflict with the interest of a class you claim to have played to 51, and
C) Quad-posted it.


This is a rogue/hunter trinket first, if you have to pick specific classes. Warriors would get decent use out of it as well, but more warriors would be looking for more tank-oriented stuff, and that 1% dodge doesn't count as tank-oriented.
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RE: not just rogue/warrior
Posted: Sep 9th 2005 8:30am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Us warriors like to PvP aswell as having to take all the pain for you leather fewls.

56 AP add 15.2damage per hit on average for an AR user. All warriors will be after this aswell as rogues/hunters
RE: not just rogue/warrior
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Still ignoring the DPS warriors out there. I don't give a crap about the +dodge I want the attack power and +hit%, and yes... I am a warrior.
RE: not just rogue/warrior
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When you as a DPS warrior has achieved ~5-6-7% chance to hit from items, you should not get more, at that point chance to crit and Attack Power gives better overall damage
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RE: not just rogue/warrior
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+4% hit is good enough if you're not going to do anything else than hit level 60 non-elites. But for real pve, against elites level 63+, you need at least +8-9%, preferably +15-20%.

And it's not a question of AP vs +hit or +crit. Melee needs them all.
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RE: not just rogue/warrior
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For PvE dps you want atleast +15% hit.
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RE: not just rogue/warrior
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still the best trinket for dps-warriors since it has the highest boost to AP.


rogue /warrior
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Rogue warrior trinket

and god damit its good


/lvl 60 rogue lvl 51 hunter
rogue /warrior
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Rogue warrior trinket

and god damit its good


/lvl 60 rogue lvl 51 hunter
rogue /warrior
Posted: Aug 25th 2005 4:22pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Rogue warrior trinket

and god damit its good


/lvl 60 rogue lvl 51 hunter
rogue /warrior
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Rogue warrior trinket

and god damit its good


/lvl 60 rogue lvl 51 hunter
For hunters
Posted: Aug 24th 2005 7:41am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Hunter or rogue trinket

Edited, Wed Aug 24 07:48:17 2005
looks sexy too me
Posted: Aug 23rd 2005 10:18pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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This is a trinket for anyone who uses Melee attacks, if you do not agree then begone u peasent
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umm..
Posted: Aug 23rd 2005 7:10pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Hunter trinket
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Posted: Aug 17th 2005 1:06am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Don't plus to hit bonuses cap out at a certain point though, 4% or something?
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Posted: Aug 18th 2005 9:04am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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If that were true, they wouldnt have the rogue talent that gave +5 to hit....
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Posted: Aug 19th 2005 4:41pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Its true (I am a level 60 rogue).

The way it works is that melee attacks have a 5% chance to miss. Dual wield has an additional 19% penalty that you can never get rid of. So, with dual wield, you have a 24% chance to miss, and it can never go lower then 19% chance to miss due to the dual wield penalty, so you have an effective cap of +5% to hit. However, more then 5% to hit is needed to get to the 19% minimum miss rate against creatures that are above level 60 or have greater than 300 defense. Note that not very much more +hit% is needed for these creatures as the miss rate goes up by only a small amount per level.

This makes the rogue talent that boosts hit percentages of opening moves worthless if you have precision, which is the talent you mentioned that gives rogues 5% increased chance to hit.

Dodges and parries are a completly seperate thing, so you can (and almost all rogues will) have 100% chance to hit with your opening moves, yet they can still be parried or dodged.

Hope this clears things up.
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Level 60 rogue, Mannoroth (Alliance)
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Posted: Sep 8th 2005 7:36pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Well almost correct..

Yes, you can't improve the normal melee attacks, so you will always stay at 20-25% miss no mather how much extra +hit you got.

But +7% hit is needed to never miss a backstab or another ability (Ofc not incl. dodges/parries as you said). Not even with 5% or 6% isn't 100% enough - 7% is the number..

And thank God to this imba trinket (A guidie got it tonight) - if you can't make this replacing Royal'Seldras or Blackhand's Breadth trinket, well then thats your problem - this is the best and really(and only?) imba Rogue trinket ingame so far!

Edited, Thu Sep 8 19:42:35 2005
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Posted: Aug 29th 2005 3:50pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Close. One minor point though -- it isn't possible to get a 100% hit rate. It caps at something around 98 or 99 percent. (People argue over which.)

I play a hunter, so I don't just have talents that cover this difference - albeit 1.7 is adding a talent for 3% chance to hit - so I have to make up the difference in gear. But with 3% in the giantstalker set alone, it's not exactly a big deal.
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agreed
Posted: Aug 16th 2005 6:40pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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agreed. a very nice trinket for a warrior,rogue, or paladin
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RE: agreed
Posted: Aug 21st 2005 4:55pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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that's retarded. It's not a paladin trinket. They'd be bottom list for this, paladins need plate (sometimes mail, hehe) that adds +healing and such forth.
RE: agreed
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we have 2 rank 14 pallys on the server i'm on and belive me if there specced right they hit harder than most
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