Heavy Dark Iron Ring

Merchant Sell Price: 21g 34s 56c
Merchant Buy Price: 5g 33s 64c
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Item Level: 66

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Heavy Dark Iron Ring
Binds when picked up
FingerMiscellaneous
110 Armor
+20 Stamina
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases defense rating by 8. 


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Updated: 2009-11-18 21:31:07 by: overyonder


2.23% Chance To Drop. (4,126 in 184,718)
Found on 4 creatures in 1 zones (average creature level: 63).This item is found on creatures which usually require more than one group to kill.
This item can only be found on specific creatures.

Molten Core (2.23% - Hide)

NameLevelDrop RateDrop %
Gehennas63 Elite1,455of 43,0713.38%
Sulfuron Harbinger63 Elite741of 32,9572.25%
Lucifron63 Elite1,128of 60,9621.85%
Shazzrah63 Elite802of 47,7281.68%

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"druid stuff"
Posted: Feb 8th 2007 2:39am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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(Mediocre) high armor stuff like this is a waste on warriors.

This ring is 110 armor, 20 sta and 8 def for a warrior
This ring is 550ish armor, 20 sta and 8 def for a bear.
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Posted: Jan 10th 2007 8:15am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Pretty amazing tanking stats for being an MC drop. Good ring into much harder raid content for a warrior . Also great for druid bear form/WSG flag gear, without a doubt. Druids benefit more then ever from +armor in light of the recent Dire Bear changes in 2.0.3 (imo, a buff to armor in bear form was the absolute last thing that druids needed, though).
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What benefit the guild?
Posted: Oct 27th 2006 7:37am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Horde druid @ Chromaggus

Do any of you really think I would bid on this to wear all the time? I have fire res gear, nature res gear, healing gear _AND_ tank gear.

99% of the time I heal. The only time I go bear is when the tanks @#%^ up - and I have to taunt a mob and drag it back to the tanks. In healing gear I got 7k armor which is not alot. I cant tank in healing gear.

However; when we do Zul'Gurub or AQ20 we take alts and casual gamers with us - often meaning we lack a tank. So instead of having an arms/fury warrior tank they are quite happy with a druid doing it, so they can do what they like most. In tanking gear I got 12k armor and around 6k hp. 332 defence and 16% dodge. Mana pool is 3300. I cant heal in tank gear.

A druid in healing gear with this ring would be screenshotted and laughed at on the guild forum :P

So - NO, a pure resto druid would not get this. He wouldn't want to spend DKP on it either. A partly feral druid will be encouraged to bid. A full feral druid would be expected to bid. MTs would be asked first if they got crap rings, though. The arms/fury warriors would surely save their DKP.

Druids dont have last stand, but frenzied regeneration is real handy with AoE-taunt. We dont parry or block so we depend on the higher armor and more dodge.

Tanked so far: Garr, Golemag add, Core Hounds, All bosses in ZG except Hakkar (is a pain since you're immune to sheeping when in bear form which is sad when you get MC'd), Anubisaths at the start of AQ40 and near Ossirian in AQ20. And every spellbinder in BWL. And ofc the five man instances.

I got 0/15/36 (thats 15 in feral and 36 resto for you non-druids ;)

But then again, I'm in a guild which has an 18 year age requirement...
Posting from Oslo, Norway
What benefit the guild?
Posted: Nov 19th 2006 6:04pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Well said. :)
Posting from Destromath US
tanks first
Posted: Oct 15th 2006 10:26pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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imo any and all tanks (be they warriors, druids, wl's, priests, or pets) should get first dibs.

o, and int ads spell crit, not just mana, so life tap is good and all but the int will add crit.

now before u all start flaming me, i m only a 60 warrior so far, i hope to have a 60 of all classes so i can clarify some of these arguments with a well rounded and balanced view. Also, like some have said, you need to see from both viewpoints, if your a warrior you will most likely be biasd towards warriors, same for any class.

Also, i have seen druids be as, if not more effective tanks than some warriors.
rawr
Posted: Oct 1st 2006 10:40am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Yes, it still drops

Yes, I rolled on it.

Yes, I got it

Yes, I am a druid


To all those who think this ring "belongs" to a certain class. Reroll Everquest or start playing the game to it's fullest extent.

Sure, it's a *nice* ring, but face it. Warriors will replace this VERY quickly. Warlocks will replace this VERY quickly. Druids won't replace this for a new ring cos there simply isn't that many rings with +sta AND +AR... and for those who have never had the opportunity or NEED to tank as a drood.. +AR and +STA are a godsend.

Flame/whine/bitch all you like. I win at Internet.
Save your DKP
Posted: Sep 9th 2006 8:07am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=22680

Band of Resolution
Binds when picked up
Unique
Finger Miscellaneous
+18 Stamina
Equip: Increased Defense +5.

Save your DKP warriors.
Save DKP
Posted: Sep 9th 2006 8:04am | Edited: Sep 14th 2006 12:19pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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double post

Edited, Sep 14th 2006 at 12:19pm EDT by Voodela
/laugh
Posted: Aug 14th 2006 1:01pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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If this went to a 'tank' feral druid over a tank, I would be pissed.
Once all the tanks have one, go ahead and give it to a druid. I don't care.
Posting from Canada
/laugh
Posted: Sep 4th 2006 6:07pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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If this went to a 'tank' feral druid over a tank, I would be pissed.
Once all the tanks have one, go ahead and give it to a druid. I don't care.


Nice trolling. You mean "once all the warrior tanks have one, go ahead and give it to the rest of the tanks". I'm surprised guilds still let warriors have it, the stats are superior for a druid. You can go to zg if you want a decent set of tank rings.
dr00d
Posted: May 11th 2006 4:07am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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There are two kind of feral druids at least (cats e.g. always have omen o.c., bears often don't), so stop judging like they all were the same.


Or the PvE feral druids(like me), that KNOW how to tank, and know that Omen of Clarity is one of the best abilities for tanking. like the 10% more dmg(Natural Weapons) = more aggro.

I haven't got the ring yet, since it only dropped one time for us :(
And went to a warrior with more DKP than me :)
As mentioned all over again...
Posted: May 10th 2006 6:29pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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... First the two or three Maintanks, then the druid bears. 506 (517 with Thick Hide) armor is just unbeatable and there aren't many (leather) items which come with lots of stamina and a lot of armor at the same time (argue with the rouges at this point). A druid can reach 15k (unbuffed) and is quite close to the 75% cap with that (73% if I remember correctly). Playing a druid tank is a matter of style and no "reroll your character" or similar sh*t. So let us get this ring after the mts and shut up. Feral bears are not pvp and they are just useful. First battle tanking an add, second battle healing your party. It's all about being a more flexible raid.
Yet I wouldn't give this to a druid who hasn't skilled thick hide - be a bear by heart or forget it. A druid who is feral because he loves to own rogues on a battleground doesn't deserve this ring. There are two kind of feral druids at least (cats e.g. always have omen o.c., bears often don't), so stop judging like they all were the same.
Tank only
Posted: May 9th 2006 1:16pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Main tank should definitely have priority.. above that, it should be between the warriors and druids.

For a full feral, its actually 240 HP; remember, heart of the wild gives a 20% stamina increase.

So, in all reality..the stats are...

for a warrior,
110ac
200hp
+5def

for a full feral druid in DB+thick hide:
561ac
240hp
+5def
Tank only
Posted: Oct 21st 2006 9:38am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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If you're a tank, then you should have points in your +armor skills.
Even tactical off tanks and tactical MTs will have this skill.
If your guild has a druid for a MT or OT, then this ring goes to the drui.

If not, the MT and OT should be first in line.
Still in game?
Posted: Apr 7th 2006 10:37am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Yeah it still drops, we didn't see one since before christmas and then last weekends MC run saw 2 drop ;) (One went to me *cheer*)
RE: Still in game?
Posted: May 5th 2006 2:25pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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...I guess my guild is either extremely lucky, or extremely unlucky... We get so many of these that almost all our warriors have one, and several of our feral Druids have them, and we just started MC around last Christmas.

Lucky that we get a ton of these.

Unlucky that we dont' get much else...and that I'm a healer...

Edited, Fri May 5 14:27:01 2006
Posting from Tejas
Still in game?
Posted: Mar 31st 2006 2:47pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Did they take the ring out of the game or something? No fcking drop for us since 28/8/05.. :/
Posting from Germany
Hihi
Posted: Feb 23rd 2006 5:57pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Tanks (Druids, Warriors, depends on your guild), Warlocks, sometimes Shamans/Paladins can put them to pretty good use.

Sad it drops so rarely...
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no
Posted: Feb 9th 2006 10:06pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Warlocks can use this... :D
Posting from Stockholm, Sweden
warriors and then druids
Posted: Jan 30th 2006 11:01pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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When all warriors have it , druids should get it as it is useless to other classes.

The only exeption on this is when you have a druid as 2nd or even 3rd main tank and there are quite a few guilds like that out there.

I'll be getting this one as a druid because all warriors have it by now and i'm an offtank when we would lack warriors.
Posting from keerbergen
>.<
Posted: Jan 21st 2006 3:05pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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okey, druid druid druid, 110 nothing! but in bear its around 400 it atleast something! and stamina = who doesnt want that? defence who want ppl critting at them ;) prolly really good for tankers but I think its for druid in first hand. but I havent got any -.- our guild have got 2 and the tankers did "steal" them >.<
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Wow
Posted: Jan 15th 2006 9:39pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Shamans tanking in MC? GG
Priest NEED
Posted: Dec 20th 2005 12:01am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Im a priest going for armor spec, +3k armor 4 the win.
And this ring will be mine if our 3 MT's got it!!! 2 to go.
After that it's mine. The armor together with 20sta is really good.
For people who say WTF, holy armor priests survivability is waaaaay higher then that of people going +sta/+res.
=D
Posted: Dec 12th 2005 3:17pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I'm a druid and I own this.

Was soooo excited to get it.

And yes, I tank more often than many of our warriors.

It's not like I "ninja'ed" it either, officers decided it was appropriate.
Update to my post
Posted: Nov 20th 2005 2:28am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I'm a 0/30/21 Tank-Resto druid and serve my guild well by healing with 8K mana and tanking with 10K+ armor when we don't have enough warriors in MC. Rag is down, and I have his Dragon's Blood Cape. I have also acquired a Medallion of Steadfast Might. Now all I need is this ring. It'll happen eventually, so all of you warriors can bite me =P

How'd I get my loot? I waited for my turn, behind the MT, and behind every other warrior who happened to be on the same run as me.
Imho..
Posted: Nov 19th 2005 7:00pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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This is clearly a tanking ring and should go to classes that can tank. Which are imho Warriors, Druids, Paladins and Shamans.
Posting from The Netherlands
Imho..
Posted: Aug 9th 2006 9:24am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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In MC and beyond, only warriors and druids should EVER have to tank.
Belthezar
Posted: Nov 7th 2005 1:42pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Would everyone please stop flaming each other about who the ring is best for and what one class can use best. It's a nice ring, it's perfect for tanking, it's nice for druids and paladins, it's also nice for warlocks obsessed with high hps rather than mana since they can lifetap. We use a druid sometimes to Offtank Domo's adds in MC, yes it can be done, sometimes we have to use paladins to offtank one of Garr's adds. But the point is when one of these drops everyone in our guild automatically knows that the tanks have first dibs, since it benefits us the most.
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Posted: Nov 7th 2005 7:30am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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"imo" you're all a bunch of closeminded nazimonkeys. Thank "u" for "ur" time.
This Ring
Posted: Oct 18th 2005 9:22am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Ok I lead our guild raid into MC. Here is my thought on it. Warriors will always have first priority on this. It is an excellent ring, and a warrior will more or less equip this ring and never take it off. A druid cannot say that. A druid can tank decently in mc (we have one tank a dog in the dog packs before mag when we're short warriors), but for the most part you do not want a druid tanking or you're gonna be in trouble. And if things go bad and a druid goes bear form to try to tank, 95% of the time he's dead before people realize he's trying to tank it. With that being said, after the warriors get them, its pretty much a ffa after that, because no one class can put the ring to use head and shoulders above anyone else after a Warrior.

It's sorta like the druids wanting Core Leather Gloves, or Shaman wanting Talisman. Yes you can use it.....but others will use it better, and mc is about progressing as a raid. So let the items go to whichever class can put them to best use in MC.

And as for a Warlock wanting this....if you want to waste your dkp go for it I guess.
Posting from The Big I-A
RE: This Ring
Posted: May 9th 2006 1:28pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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And if things go bad and a druid goes bear form to try to tank, 95% of the time he's dead before people realize he's trying to tank it.


If things go bad, that means 9/10 the druid is in caster gear.. of course he's going to go down quickly.

But better an oom, battle res'd burned, bear dying then a primary healer.
RE: This Ring
Posted: Jan 9th 2006 5:36am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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A warlock should go for it?
Warlocks would waste 66% of this ring.

Edited, Thu Jan 26 03:40:59 2006
idiotic warriors?
Posted: Oct 3rd 2005 2:43am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I think so. I have no problem with warriors bidding on this ring. I have no problem with it going to the MT first. However, why in the world would a warrior automatically receive this ring just because he's a warrior? I don't know a single fury/arms warrior, rogue, hunter, or shaman who'd want more armor or defense rather than better stats for offensive purposes. THAT is a waste in my opinion. As for the warlock argument, there are rings that are MUCH easier to obtain that give you almost the same amount of stamina (because let's face it, you don't need the armor or defense either). The only people who could possibly use this ring is a prot spec'd warrior or a feral druid who uses bear form the majority of the time. Just because most classes are classified into tank/healer/dps, there IS such a thing as hybrid. 1.8 will show everyone.

It's 506 armor (for the druids who have stated that it's less than this, either learn math all over again, or find out more about your class because you...embarass us) for druids and it is true that the defense is only 1/3 as effective as it is for warriors. Any other statement other than the previous statement is just a plain uninformed and biased opinion, or wrong.

All the warriors who attempt to justify why druids wouldn't want this or shouldn't get it, EVER, try out a few more classes before you think you know it all. Unlike you, our "primary" stat is not pre-determined until we choose the path we want to lead. I know it's hard to imagine being a class that actually has to decide for themselves what stat they want to focus on dependent on talents, but try to grasp that concept.

And before warriors flame me, I would never roll on this ring because I don't plan on tanking, or want to, nor do I plan to play primarily in bear form. Feral cat druids don't want this either.

Edited, Mon Oct 3 03:02:23 2005
I would like to invite all the druids...
Posted: Sep 30th 2005 1:50pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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...who have posted in this thread to STFU.

This is an uber rare MC drop that immediately goes straight to your MT, and then down the line to all the Prot spec warriors.

Step back before we light your branches on fire.

-MainTankMike
Posting from Philadelphia, PA
Common Sense is hard on the brain....
Posted: Sep 27th 2005 11:59pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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It was mentioned earlier that druids can tank in MC.... I just tend to think that if your druid is tanking you have one of 4 problems:

1) The druid didn't do a very good job healing to begin with.

2) Your guild needs to recruit some more warriors.

3) All your tanks are dead and coulda used that ring perhaps to help them stay alive.

4) You have a druid with warrioritice, and you should reroll a melee class.

As for all the classes. Think of item application. What % of the time will you actually be using all the benifits of this ring? Here let me help you... dont want to strain a brain cell.

warriors - no dmg chance at range, no assist from range, can only be any good in the scrap.
Usage: 100% of the time

Pallys - mainly short range, only time not in the scrap is when healing so we will say pallys could use this ring quite well also.

Shamys - I've never played a shamy so im not the best to speak on it... but ive killed a lot of them so i would say they need more armor, more stamina, and more defense :)

rouges - also always in the scrap but are geared for dodging and not taking dmg rather than lasting while taking dmg. Armor and Defense help but will still be cut down pretty fast in the scrap. Seems like a waste.

hunters - rarely in melee, fights mainly with a bow or gun, but has melee as the fall back and they do not have the dodge and escape abilities of the rouge perhaps it is needed as much as rouge.

Druids - for the love of god you don't even know how to work a sword what the hell are you thinking trying to tank?! In my experience the bear tank is a last ditch effort. If your druid is getting beaten on then your tank isnt doing his job... but for the sake of differnt opinions ill put druids next on my ring list.

Warlocks - I understand the converting HP to MP part of it. But WLs will only be using half of this rings abilities at any one time. If your warlock is being beaten on, the tank is doing something wrong. Other rings add to stamina, and if you would get one that added a little INY along with the STA, maybe you wouldnt have to drain so much health.

Mages - I swear to god.... if i ever see a mage with this ring i will switch factions just so i can hunt your @$$
RE: Common Sense is hard on the brain....
Posted: Apr 11th 2006 7:18am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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I'd say the only reason you think that bear-tanks are useless is because the only bear-tanks you'ver ever seen wore wildheart or cenarion.
Is the druid a geardependant class? Yes.
Try putting a warrior as a main-tank with a two-hander and crit/ag gear. Sure he will probably tank better than a druid in crap-gear but still, he won't be a longlasting tank.
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RE: Common Sense is hard on the brain....
Posted: May 21st 2006 2:21pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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don't think it matters, but once in onyxia our MT died and our dmg dealer fury warrior(which only dmg gear on) stepped in still with his crow of destruction on the head and manadge to tank her from the beggining of phase3 til the end :) (rly awesome!) so it can be done!

about the ring: warrior will probably use this untill they get some AQ rep rings or whatever, which means along time for the regular MC guild. I have no problem that a druid perhaps wants it for tanking but a tanking warrior should have some prio and fury warriors don't rly need it not even for a tanking gear imo, wasted dkp for a serious player.
RE: Common Sense is hard on the brain....
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don't think it matters, but once in onyxia our MT died and our dmg dealer fury warrior(which only dmg gear on) stepped in still with his crow of destruction on the head and manadge to tank her from the beggining of phase3 til the end :) (rly awesome!) so it can be done!

about the ring: warrior will probably use this untill they get some AQ rep rings or whatever, which means along time for the regular MC guild. I have no problem that a druid perhaps wants it for tanking but a tanking warrior should have some prio and fury warriors don't rly need it not even for a tanking gear imo, wasted dkp for a serious player.
RE: Common Sense is hard on the brain....
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Agathule, your a moron.
RE: Common Sense is hard on the brain....
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Try to think again before posting such stupid crap ... I doubt anyone is saying that Druids can replace the warrior as a main tank, but we have used Shammies and or Druids to offtank mobs at Garr, Sulfuron and Domo when we lacked a warrior as offtank.

I am currently at 11k AC in Bear form, which equals 66% damage reduction ... thats about the same as a warrior with defense stance has, although I dont have his nifty tricks like Last Stand and Block chance and so on. Tanking does work for offtanking lesser meanies in MC like I mentioned above and if youre just one tank short (which can happen even if you have 10 warriors in the guild) you would rather go home and not do it instead of using a Druid / Shammie?

I would never dream of truly tanking a real boss in MC, but offtanking anything else works fine.
A note...
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Sorry to say, but this drop is quite common. I have seen it drop around 10 times in a six month period. It is a tank ring and compliments the Myrmidon's Signet very nicely.
to all the idiots
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1 druids if you ever get this ring then tell me i would be glade to hear the dumb guild who lets a druid get this

2 if your guild clears mc weekly this will drop about every 100 runs

3 since it is rare not many will drop (about 3 in 1 year) if my math is true then an druid wont ever get this if he thinks his tanks should get first.

4 your guild will never let you use this

5 learn to play your class and don't go OMFGBBQ MICKE TISNON GORGEFORMAN GRILL! if its "purp" and you think that makes it good for all classes then go play in the freeway.

6 there are a lot of greedy people out there that don't know how to play their class and like to roll because they can "USE"

7 if your guild has half a mind they would have booted you already

8 many of the druids that posted will never see mc because they would want this as a "PVP toy"

9 this ring for druids only adds one thign besids ac for druids(they can't parry or block)

10 warlocks would get this after all mele classes have it.

11 all the epic geared druids on any server (they already have xp in mc) think this ring is crap over a intel/spirit ring.

K thx go hit your comp with a bat and destroy your account.

-60 warrior off tank of LOTH stonemaul

ps: logic hurts if your dumb : /

Edited, Thu Sep 29 00:39:35 2005
RE: to all the idiots
Posted: Jan 9th 2006 6:18am | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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Im always amazed on how well some people who never have played ANY kind of druid above lvl 4 simply has the only solution for playing that class.

If youre in a decently sane guild and you are the MT you will get this first. Stop @#%^ing worrying, are you that insecure? Maybe its your panties thats too tight?

"11 all the epic geared druids on any server (they already have xp in mc) think this ring is crap over a intel/spirit ring. "

If youre gonna MAKE sh*t UP, then please at least try to make it believable. First of all, you dont know all epic geared druids on all servers... and even if you did, there are feral druids, like Wilddevil R14 EU-Bloodhoof, who would disagree.

"9 this ring for druids only adds one thign besids ac for druids(they can't parry or block) "

Actually the only thing this ring doesnt add for druid is parry and block. (You see how I twisted that around with just words? Im sneaky)
Of course you dont mention the fact that we get ALOT more armor than any other class from it. Stamina is also lovely.
AND WHILE WERE ON THAT SUBJECT

"10 warlocks would get this after all mele classes have it. "

So you'd think a warlock would use this for ANYTHING but 20 stamina?

"5 learn to play your class and don't go OMFGBBQ MICKE TISNON GORGEFORMAN GRILL! if its "purp" and you think that makes it good for all classes then go play in the freeway. "

I have no idea what you said in the middle there, but playin on the freeway does sound like a good solution to your problem. Stop telling other classes that they only can do this or that. (Remember that guy that always keeps screaming HEAL!!!!111 You dont see healers going "TAANNK!!!1111 do you? and its not because 'tanks' never @#%^ up... trust me on that...
Finally it isnt good for all classes. But it defenitely is excellent for druids (if they ever go into bearform).

"6 there are a lot of greedy people out there that don't know how to play their class and like to roll because they can "USE" "

First of all. Why the @#%^ does tanking warriors EVER get to bid/roll on 2h:ers? Youre tanking with a 2h:er? Any warrior bidding on a 2h:er while tanking is asking for a druid to roll on a feral suitable item while healing.

Master loot + DKP = MC going guild
Stop that rolling crap... I have no idea what kind of system you use but it sound like CRAP.

"7 if your guild has half a mind they would have booted you already "
No, because after all - both I and them are sane.


"ps: logic hurts if your dumb : /"
Good. Obviously you would know...




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RE: to all the idiots
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sweetiepie wrote:


"10 warlocks would get this after all mele classes have it. "

So you'd think a warlock would use this for ANYTHING but 20 stamina?


Just to clarify, this ring now owns for Demonology Warlocks.

(Yes, I see how old his post it -_-)

I'm personally working on finding the "perfect hybrid" to get optimum amount of all of my stats...

I've done so for everything so far... except rings!

I don't know what to do for my rings, like get this and a Ring of the Fallen God?

That'd be hybrid-ish... right?
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RE: to all the idiots
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MT first, yes, then warriors AND druids!

506 armor in bearform, 200hp, +0,2% chance to dodge and NOT getting a crit on u.
this is the best bearform ring, and druids who use bearform are not melee-class-wannabies, thats how druids play! int/spi is not the stats druids want, rather AC/HP/spell dmg/heal boost. (and spell crit chance? whatha!? all druids who has the eye of the beast should reroll asap)

yea, learning ur class is good, learning OTHER CLASSES is also good, u have never played a druid, have you? and Warlocks could probably use it for the HP, but druids have more use for it, since its THE BEST DRUID RING THERE IS!!!

you are a dumbass if u say druids have no use for this ring! but MT should of cos have it since he needs it more. but after MT, druids should have the chance too since there is no better ring for a druid, i mean a real druid! no balance druid should ever use this ring.
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If anyone gets this before the MT's gets it that guild should be banished to the hall of shame
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I'd say anyone is eligible for this ring that can and will fight at a melee range(Hell I'd even let a hunter go for it before casters). After that then let the casters fight for it if it is what they desire. But Tanks should get this first and foremost and there should be no argument about that. They do keep you alive after all: ).
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No, the group keeps itself alive.

Tanks soak the damage but they cant do that indefenitely without healing.
Thats why you need someone healing to STAY alive. Also tanks cant tank and do proper DPS so they need the damage dealers to kill the beast and STAY alive.

Obviously there are finer points to this, but tanks doesnt do anything more special than the rest of the group.
Believe it or not
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On my server in another guild, where they use a DKP bidding system 2 druids got his not just over a warrior but over the MT. I was pretty shocked to hear that. I'm not saying a druid shouldn't be allowed one, I am saying an MT should get first priority over this ring vs other classes in the raid and also any other warrior who's tanking in MC. You can argue points like the one about polymorphed tanks in BWL, firstly it can be dispelled and secondly getting items like this helps you clear MC more quickly and efficently in the first place. Be almost as bad as a shaman going after a drillboar disk or a priest going after Dominance when he knows he'll vendor it when he gets benediction. People should really take a look at all sides and the greater picture, and yes again I agree it's great PvP, but then if a warrior spent all DKP on what's great PvP in MC and not what's great for tanking too, would you ever have to compete on this ring???
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Why do people keep mentioning "external AC bonuses" with this ring and druids? It's been mentioned twice, and I'm getting the impression that neither of those 2 people have even played a druid or so much as look at a druid profile on this very site. This ring's armor will most certainly be multiplied by 4.6 in dire bear form, just like Ring of Protection, Thrall's Resolve, etc.

I'd of course let the warriors roll and get this ring first, but there's no way I'm letting a shaman (I'm a tauren druid) get this thing over me. There is life outside of MC...it's like some of you people think there's no stepping back OUT of the instance portal to do other things. (Though I carry all my tank set around with me, so who knows, I may tank a corehound some day).

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Can't see the line "usable by class: warrior"
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Most guilds or raid groups use a dkp system to distribute their MC loot anyway. I'm "just" a protection paladin, however I tank in MC on a regular basis - if there is a boss with adds (from Lucrifron to Majordomo), then i've tanked their adds multiple times.
When this ring dropped, i had enough points to get it - and did so. Call me strange if you like, but i like my role as a "support tank" a lot, but i bring my buffs, my dispells and my tanking abilities to the table, and this ring helps me a lot to do so. In fact, i do it better then offensive specced warriors, so my raid group asks me to tank even though those warriors are around.

So why should i feel bad with this ring now? I'm maybe a rare breed, but there are some defense pallies who actively play a tank role, and this ring fits them fine.
Warrior only? Warrior first I'd say
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Very nice ring, dropped for our MT some time ago.
It will go to all the MTs and OTs in the guild first. Dunno if the dps warriors would want this, I'm guessing they'd go for +crit/str/agi, but I'd definately want it on my druid when we're done gearing up the tank specced warriors.

For the one saying that AC on this ring doesn't give bonus in bearform: that's wrong.....
Haven't bothered to find out how +defense helps me in bearform, so I can't comment that.

Btw, we use druids as tanks when we are low on warriors sometimes, so ok druid tank gear isn't allways a waste.
One of the best rings for Warlocks
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Now, I wouldn't roll against a warrior who wanted this, as I understand how useful it would be for them, and the good of the group.

However, I've spent all afternoon looking through all the rings available in this game, and I can only find one ring that would be better for my character than this. That means that if I happened to get this ring, I would equip it and NEVER replace it for anything else. That has got to mean something in terms of having some right to roll.

I still wouldn't roll against a warrior though.... hehe, I like my reputation as a fair guy and know I'd be flamed all over the server if I did!

Can anyone suggest two rings a Warlock would be better off with though?
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the ring is use able by all classes... tho a MT would be better of it then other classes...
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Warrior only
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Sure druids and warlocks want to roll on this item. So would I (hunter). Thats not the point. I am pretty sure druids and warlocks (and hunters) want their tier 2 armor sets and eventually tier 3 from BWL. Best way to get it? Aside from the obvious skills and tactics.. GEAR!! If your guild is equipping locks and druids with this for pvp purposes than sorry, you aint gonna get your tier 3 armor..

Of course when the melee (war, pally, rogue) got theirs then you can roll, but in PVE you are not taking melee damage or you are doing something very very wrong...
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Items goto classes that use ALL the stats
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Ok, I agree that this ring can be used by druids and wl's. But, as has been already said, this ring is much much much more effective on a warrior then any other class.

External ac bonouses DO NOT get effected by the druids ac increase in bear form, bears can-not block or parry, making the +8 def skill extreemly poor for them compared to a warrior.

A wl dont need no def skill and ac aint exactly a priority so they need this for the sta stat only, and druids need for the sta and ac with they dont even get a bonous on.

Warriors will use every stat effectivley and all the time, and as such they should have priority on this item. The 9 other druids in our MC raids have agreed to this without a word because they all know its a warrior tanking item, and it has been said that should a warrior not want it druids are then to roll.

A wl rolling on this with a warrior is like a warrior rolling on a ring with 15 int but 20 sta becuase 'they use the sta', its just not on, and it doesnt take a genious to realise what class this item was intended priority for.

Any wl or druid that rolls on this over the MC regular MT *that takes about 4 million damage for them in a run* is damn greedy and not thinking of the good of the raid.
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RE: Items goto classes that use ALL the stats
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Again, clueless.

Druids use every stat on this ring. Armor MORE so than a warrior, defence LESS.

I'd call that pretty much even usage.

Doesnt change the fact that warriors ARE better tanks - or that MT should get this first.

AND WHY THE @#%^ ARE YOU ROLLING ON EPICS?

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Please
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I so want this on my druid. Not allowing a druid to bid/roll on this is b/s. So many lovely items in MC hybrid-classes arent "allowed" to get. Its a shame.

If it ever drops im bidding on it along with the warrios/locks/pallys.
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RE: Please
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so what your saying is you wanna roll with the tanks for this ring? if you had any sense you would see that tanks use it way better than druids can although if the tanks already have this then sure it would seem fair game for a druid to roll on this item but other than that it should be left to the ppl who can use it the most

RE: Please
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Stop saying "roll" for the love of god...
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If you have positive DKP and you want it, then /random 1000. End of story.
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This item is extremely rare. We have been doing MC for months now and haven't seen a single one.
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the other 85%... I've been on 3 runs and watched 4 drop.
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More than just class....
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I'm sorry, but if a druid (or any other class besides warrior) goes on 10 runs, and sees the ring go to a warrior each time, and then the next time, when some warrior who just leveld to 60 joins and it drops....it shouldn't go to the warrior just becasue he's a warrior.

Decisions usually aren't that easy, and if you make them that easy, then you're just not being fair to your fellow players. There's a bigger picture out there. Find it.
Druids? Warlocks? I dont think so...
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Wheres the spirit? intellect? hmm? thats right, there is none. this is an epic item, if it was meant for either of those classes, it would have class appropriate stats, plain and simple. I could see this going to a pally or shaman but mostly this will go to warriors.

and im sorry but no one cares about druid bear form armor % bonus because quite frankly a druid or warlock will not be tanking MC.
RE: Druids? Warlocks? I dont think so...
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External AC bonuses aren't affected by the druid AC increase when in bear form, +defence increases dodge, block and parry, druids cannot block nor can they parry which is a waste. Sure +20 stam is uber for ANY class, not just warriors, but lets be realistic and not greedy and actually take time to understand that warriors are dependant on stam, in other words they need stam more than druids, they tank more than druids, they're in the front line more than druids, and most importantly its their main stat. So truthfully speaking this ring isn't just as good for warlocks/druids as it is for warriors.

Basically there are 2 ring slots, there are plenty of rings out there that are more adapted for druids/warlocks.
Another case of the "Woaaooowhhh, its purple, /drool, /roll"
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RE: Druids? Warlocks? I dont think so...
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"and im sorry but no one cares about druid bear form armor % bonus because quite frankly a druid or warlock will not be tanking MC."

wow isn't just a pve game, people pvp aswell. and that ring is golden for a druid that pvps alot and uses his forms effectivly.

and while i don't tank mc bosses, i have off tanked in mc before.

kthxstfu.
RE: Druids? Warlocks? I dont think so...
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I would love to know just what you managed to off tank in the MC in bear form...
RE: Druids? Warlocks? I dont think so...
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Let's see, my friend has a druid bear tank that has now maintanked Onyxia, the entire ZG, most of the bosses in MC, including Ragnaros, as well as Razorgore, and he will continue to be one of our maintanks when we head further into BWL.

From how you're talking you have no idea how threatbuilding works, and how well a feralspecced bear can do it. I've seen him take over aggro on bosses in instances from warriors that have tanked for a good 10-15 seconds before he goes in, this without using taunt. (Once we've played this game enough, doing experiments like this is a fun way to spice things up)

With numbers like 8000+ hitpoints, 13000+ armor, >20% dodge and attackpower enough to crit for over 1000 on Mauls, you'll be hardpressed to find warriors that can outaggro him or that are easier to keep up.

And yes, he got first priority on this ring when it dropped in MC.

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RE: Druids? Warlocks? I dont think so...
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i personally have tanked one of the core hounds before you fight lucifron, i also know a few druids that have tanked one of garrs adds, and one of domos adds. i've haven't had to do it recently because we have enough warriors.

anything else you'd love to know?
RE: Druids? Warlocks? I dont think so...
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Ya know... Warlocks actually use Stam more than int. They can Life Tap themselves to convert Health to Mana, they don't need much int, as their HP directly converts to mana.

And druids don't ALWAYS use Int pal, if I shift to bear form, 110 ac converts to 506. Plus 200hp and a nice amount of Defense.

I'm not saying druids/warlocks should get first priority, but it does just as much good for them as it does for you.

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