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| Name | Count | Drop Rate | |
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| Nexus Crystal | 1-2 | 100% |
| Name | Level | Drop Rate | Drop % |
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| Gehennas | 63 Elite | 1,455of 43,071 | 3.38% |
| Sulfuron Harbinger | 63 Elite | 741of 32,957 | 2.25% |
| Lucifron | 63 Elite | 1,128of 60,962 | 1.85% |
| Shazzrah | 63 Elite | 802of 47,728 | 1.68% |
This ring is 110 armor, 20 sta and 8 def for a warrior
This ring is 550ish armor, 20 sta and 8 def for a bear.
Do any of you really think I would bid on this to wear all the time? I have fire res gear, nature res gear, healing gear _AND_ tank gear.
99% of the time I heal. The only time I go bear is when the tanks @#%^ up - and I have to taunt a mob and drag it back to the tanks. In healing gear I got 7k armor which is not alot. I cant tank in healing gear.
However; when we do Zul'Gurub or AQ20 we take alts and casual gamers with us - often meaning we lack a tank. So instead of having an arms/fury warrior tank they are quite happy with a druid doing it, so they can do what they like most. In tanking gear I got 12k armor and around 6k hp. 332 defence and 16% dodge. Mana pool is 3300. I cant heal in tank gear.
A druid in healing gear with this ring would be screenshotted and laughed at on the guild forum :P
So - NO, a pure resto druid would not get this. He wouldn't want to spend DKP on it either. A partly feral druid will be encouraged to bid. A full feral druid would be expected to bid. MTs would be asked first if they got crap rings, though. The arms/fury warriors would surely save their DKP.
Druids dont have last stand, but frenzied regeneration is real handy with AoE-taunt. We dont parry or block so we depend on the higher armor and more dodge.
Tanked so far: Garr, Golemag add, Core Hounds, All bosses in ZG except Hakkar (is a pain since you're immune to sheeping when in bear form which is sad when you get MC'd), Anubisaths at the start of AQ40 and near Ossirian in AQ20. And every spellbinder in BWL. And ofc the five man instances.
I got 0/15/36 (thats 15 in feral and 36 resto for you non-druids ;)
But then again, I'm in a guild which has an 18 year age requirement...
o, and int ads spell crit, not just mana, so life tap is good and all but the int will add crit.
now before u all start flaming me, i m only a 60 warrior so far, i hope to have a 60 of all classes so i can clarify some of these arguments with a well rounded and balanced view. Also, like some have said, you need to see from both viewpoints, if your a warrior you will most likely be biasd towards warriors, same for any class.
Also, i have seen druids be as, if not more effective tanks than some warriors.
Yes, I rolled on it.
Yes, I got it
Yes, I am a druid
To all those who think this ring "belongs" to a certain class. Reroll Everquest or start playing the game to it's fullest extent.
Sure, it's a *nice* ring, but face it. Warriors will replace this VERY quickly. Warlocks will replace this VERY quickly. Druids won't replace this for a new ring cos there simply isn't that many rings with +sta AND +AR... and for those who have never had the opportunity or NEED to tank as a drood.. +AR and +STA are a godsend.
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Edited, Sep 14th 2006 at 12:19pm EDT by Voodela
Once all the tanks have one, go ahead and give it to a druid. I don't care.
Once all the tanks have one, go ahead and give it to a druid. I don't care.
Nice trolling. You mean "once all the warrior tanks have one, go ahead and give it to the rest of the tanks". I'm surprised guilds still let warriors have it, the stats are superior for a druid. You can go to zg if you want a decent set of tank rings.
Or the PvE feral druids(like me), that KNOW how to tank, and know that Omen of Clarity is one of the best abilities for tanking. like the 10% more dmg(Natural Weapons) = more aggro.
I haven't got the ring yet, since it only dropped one time for us :(
And went to a warrior with more DKP than me :)
Yet I wouldn't give this to a druid who hasn't skilled thick hide - be a bear by heart or forget it. A druid who is feral because he loves to own rogues on a battleground doesn't deserve this ring. There are two kind of feral druids at least (cats e.g. always have omen o.c., bears often don't), so stop judging like they all were the same.
For a full feral, its actually 240 HP; remember, heart of the wild gives a 20% stamina increase.
So, in all reality..the stats are...
for a warrior,
110ac
200hp
+5def
for a full feral druid in DB+thick hide:
561ac
240hp
+5def
Even tactical off tanks and tactical MTs will have this skill.
If your guild has a druid for a MT or OT, then this ring goes to the drui.
If not, the MT and OT should be first in line.
Lucky that we get a ton of these.
Unlucky that we dont' get much else...and that I'm a healer...
Edited, Fri May 5 14:27:01 2006
Sad it drops so rarely...
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The only exeption on this is when you have a druid as 2nd or even 3rd main tank and there are quite a few guilds like that out there.
I'll be getting this one as a druid because all warriors have it by now and i'm an offtank when we would lack warriors.
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And this ring will be mine if our 3 MT's got it!!! 2 to go.
After that it's mine. The armor together with 20sta is really good.
For people who say WTF, holy armor priests survivability is waaaaay higher then that of people going +sta/+res.
Was soooo excited to get it.
And yes, I tank more often than many of our warriors.
It's not like I "ninja'ed" it either, officers decided it was appropriate.
How'd I get my loot? I waited for my turn, behind the MT, and behind every other warrior who happened to be on the same run as me.
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It's sorta like the druids wanting Core Leather Gloves, or Shaman wanting Talisman. Yes you can use it.....but others will use it better, and mc is about progressing as a raid. So let the items go to whichever class can put them to best use in MC.
And as for a Warlock wanting this....if you want to waste your dkp go for it I guess.
If things go bad, that means 9/10 the druid is in caster gear.. of course he's going to go down quickly.
But better an oom, battle res'd burned, bear dying then a primary healer.
Warlocks would waste 66% of this ring.
Edited, Thu Jan 26 03:40:59 2006
It's 506 armor (for the druids who have stated that it's less than this, either learn math all over again, or find out more about your class because you...embarass us) for druids and it is true that the defense is only 1/3 as effective as it is for warriors. Any other statement other than the previous statement is just a plain uninformed and biased opinion, or wrong.
All the warriors who attempt to justify why druids wouldn't want this or shouldn't get it, EVER, try out a few more classes before you think you know it all. Unlike you, our "primary" stat is not pre-determined until we choose the path we want to lead. I know it's hard to imagine being a class that actually has to decide for themselves what stat they want to focus on dependent on talents, but try to grasp that concept.
And before warriors flame me, I would never roll on this ring because I don't plan on tanking, or want to, nor do I plan to play primarily in bear form. Feral cat druids don't want this either.
Edited, Mon Oct 3 03:02:23 2005
This is an uber rare MC drop that immediately goes straight to your MT, and then down the line to all the Prot spec warriors.
Step back before we light your branches on fire.
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1) The druid didn't do a very good job healing to begin with.
2) Your guild needs to recruit some more warriors.
3) All your tanks are dead and coulda used that ring perhaps to help them stay alive.
4) You have a druid with warrioritice, and you should reroll a melee class.
As for all the classes. Think of item application. What % of the time will you actually be using all the benifits of this ring? Here let me help you... dont want to strain a brain cell.
warriors - no dmg chance at range, no assist from range, can only be any good in the scrap.
Usage: 100% of the time
Pallys - mainly short range, only time not in the scrap is when healing so we will say pallys could use this ring quite well also.
Shamys - I've never played a shamy so im not the best to speak on it... but ive killed a lot of them so i would say they need more armor, more stamina, and more defense :)
rouges - also always in the scrap but are geared for dodging and not taking dmg rather than lasting while taking dmg. Armor and Defense help but will still be cut down pretty fast in the scrap. Seems like a waste.
hunters - rarely in melee, fights mainly with a bow or gun, but has melee as the fall back and they do not have the dodge and escape abilities of the rouge perhaps it is needed as much as rouge.
Druids - for the love of god you don't even know how to work a sword what the hell are you thinking trying to tank?! In my experience the bear tank is a last ditch effort. If your druid is getting beaten on then your tank isnt doing his job... but for the sake of differnt opinions ill put druids next on my ring list.
Warlocks - I understand the converting HP to MP part of it. But WLs will only be using half of this rings abilities at any one time. If your warlock is being beaten on, the tank is doing something wrong. Other rings add to stamina, and if you would get one that added a little INY along with the STA, maybe you wouldnt have to drain so much health.
Mages - I swear to god.... if i ever see a mage with this ring i will switch factions just so i can hunt your @$$
Is the druid a geardependant class? Yes.
Try putting a warrior as a main-tank with a two-hander and crit/ag gear. Sure he will probably tank better than a druid in crap-gear but still, he won't be a longlasting tank.
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about the ring: warrior will probably use this untill they get some AQ rep rings or whatever, which means along time for the regular MC guild. I have no problem that a druid perhaps wants it for tanking but a tanking warrior should have some prio and fury warriors don't rly need it not even for a tanking gear imo, wasted dkp for a serious player.
about the ring: warrior will probably use this untill they get some AQ rep rings or whatever, which means along time for the regular MC guild. I have no problem that a druid perhaps wants it for tanking but a tanking warrior should have some prio and fury warriors don't rly need it not even for a tanking gear imo, wasted dkp for a serious player.
I am currently at 11k AC in Bear form, which equals 66% damage reduction ... thats about the same as a warrior with defense stance has, although I dont have his nifty tricks like Last Stand and Block chance and so on. Tanking does work for offtanking lesser meanies in MC like I mentioned above and if youre just one tank short (which can happen even if you have 10 warriors in the guild) you would rather go home and not do it instead of using a Druid / Shammie?
I would never dream of truly tanking a real boss in MC, but offtanking anything else works fine.
2 if your guild clears mc weekly this will drop about every 100 runs
3 since it is rare not many will drop (about 3 in 1 year) if my math is true then an druid wont ever get this if he thinks his tanks should get first.
4 your guild will never let you use this
5 learn to play your class and don't go OMFGBBQ MICKE TISNON GORGEFORMAN GRILL! if its "purp" and you think that makes it good for all classes then go play in the freeway.
6 there are a lot of greedy people out there that don't know how to play their class and like to roll because they can "USE"
7 if your guild has half a mind they would have booted you already
8 many of the druids that posted will never see mc because they would want this as a "PVP toy"
9 this ring for druids only adds one thign besids ac for druids(they can't parry or block)
10 warlocks would get this after all mele classes have it.
11 all the epic geared druids on any server (they already have xp in mc) think this ring is crap over a intel/spirit ring.
K thx go hit your comp with a bat and destroy your account.
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ps: logic hurts if your dumb : /
Edited, Thu Sep 29 00:39:35 2005
If youre in a decently sane guild and you are the MT you will get this first. Stop @#%^ing worrying, are you that insecure? Maybe its your panties thats too tight?
"11 all the epic geared druids on any server (they already have xp in mc) think this ring is crap over a intel/spirit ring. "
If youre gonna MAKE sh*t UP, then please at least try to make it believable. First of all, you dont know all epic geared druids on all servers... and even if you did, there are feral druids, like Wilddevil R14 EU-Bloodhoof, who would disagree.
"9 this ring for druids only adds one thign besids ac for druids(they can't parry or block) "
Actually the only thing this ring doesnt add for druid is parry and block. (You see how I twisted that around with just words? Im sneaky)
Of course you dont mention the fact that we get ALOT more armor than any other class from it. Stamina is also lovely.
AND WHILE WERE ON THAT SUBJECT
"10 warlocks would get this after all mele classes have it. "
So you'd think a warlock would use this for ANYTHING but 20 stamina?
"5 learn to play your class and don't go OMFGBBQ MICKE TISNON GORGEFORMAN GRILL! if its "purp" and you think that makes it good for all classes then go play in the freeway. "
I have no idea what you said in the middle there, but playin on the freeway does sound like a good solution to your problem. Stop telling other classes that they only can do this or that. (Remember that guy that always keeps screaming HEAL!!!!111 You dont see healers going "TAANNK!!!1111 do you? and its not because 'tanks' never @#%^ up... trust me on that...
Finally it isnt good for all classes. But it defenitely is excellent for druids (if they ever go into bearform).
"6 there are a lot of greedy people out there that don't know how to play their class and like to roll because they can "USE" "
First of all. Why the @#%^ does tanking warriors EVER get to bid/roll on 2h:ers? Youre tanking with a 2h:er? Any warrior bidding on a 2h:er while tanking is asking for a druid to roll on a feral suitable item while healing.
Master loot + DKP = MC going guild
Stop that rolling crap... I have no idea what kind of system you use but it sound like CRAP.
"7 if your guild has half a mind they would have booted you already "
No, because after all - both I and them are sane.
"ps: logic hurts if your dumb : /"
Good. Obviously you would know...
Edited, Mon Jan 9 05:37:45 2006
"10 warlocks would get this after all mele classes have it. "
So you'd think a warlock would use this for ANYTHING but 20 stamina?
Just to clarify, this ring now owns for Demonology Warlocks.
(Yes, I see how old his post it -_-)
I'm personally working on finding the "perfect hybrid" to get optimum amount of all of my stats...
I've done so for everything so far... except rings!
I don't know what to do for my rings, like get this and a Ring of the Fallen God?
That'd be hybrid-ish... right?
506 armor in bearform, 200hp, +0,2% chance to dodge and NOT getting a crit on u.
this is the best bearform ring, and druids who use bearform are not melee-class-wannabies, thats how druids play! int/spi is not the stats druids want, rather AC/HP/spell dmg/heal boost. (and spell crit chance? whatha!? all druids who has the eye of the beast should reroll asap)
yea, learning ur class is good, learning OTHER CLASSES is also good, u have never played a druid, have you? and Warlocks could probably use it for the HP, but druids have more use for it, since its THE BEST DRUID RING THERE IS!!!
you are a dumbass if u say druids have no use for this ring! but MT should of cos have it since he needs it more. but after MT, druids should have the chance too since there is no better ring for a druid, i mean a real druid! no balance druid should ever use this ring.
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Tanks soak the damage but they cant do that indefenitely without healing.
Thats why you need someone healing to STAY alive. Also tanks cant tank and do proper DPS so they need the damage dealers to kill the beast and STAY alive.
Obviously there are finer points to this, but tanks doesnt do anything more special than the rest of the group.
I'd of course let the warriors roll and get this ring first, but there's no way I'm letting a shaman (I'm a tauren druid) get this thing over me. There is life outside of MC...it's like some of you people think there's no stepping back OUT of the instance portal to do other things. (Though I carry all my tank set around with me, so who knows, I may tank a corehound some day).
Edited, Tue Aug 16 04:32:45 2005
When this ring dropped, i had enough points to get it - and did so. Call me strange if you like, but i like my role as a "support tank" a lot, but i bring my buffs, my dispells and my tanking abilities to the table, and this ring helps me a lot to do so. In fact, i do it better then offensive specced warriors, so my raid group asks me to tank even though those warriors are around.
So why should i feel bad with this ring now? I'm maybe a rare breed, but there are some defense pallies who actively play a tank role, and this ring fits them fine.
It will go to all the MTs and OTs in the guild first. Dunno if the dps warriors would want this, I'm guessing they'd go for +crit/str/agi, but I'd definately want it on my druid when we're done gearing up the tank specced warriors.
For the one saying that AC on this ring doesn't give bonus in bearform: that's wrong.....
Haven't bothered to find out how +defense helps me in bearform, so I can't comment that.
Btw, we use druids as tanks when we are low on warriors sometimes, so ok druid tank gear isn't allways a waste.
However, I've spent all afternoon looking through all the rings available in this game, and I can only find one ring that would be better for my character than this. That means that if I happened to get this ring, I would equip it and NEVER replace it for anything else. That has got to mean something in terms of having some right to roll.
I still wouldn't roll against a warrior though.... hehe, I like my reputation as a fair guy and know I'd be flamed all over the server if I did!
Can anyone suggest two rings a Warlock would be better off with though?
Of course when the melee (war, pally, rogue) got theirs then you can roll, but in PVE you are not taking melee damage or you are doing something very very wrong...
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External ac bonouses DO NOT get effected by the druids ac increase in bear form, bears can-not block or parry, making the +8 def skill extreemly poor for them compared to a warrior.
A wl dont need no def skill and ac aint exactly a priority so they need this for the sta stat only, and druids need for the sta and ac with they dont even get a bonous on.
Warriors will use every stat effectivley and all the time, and as such they should have priority on this item. The 9 other druids in our MC raids have agreed to this without a word because they all know its a warrior tanking item, and it has been said that should a warrior not want it druids are then to roll.
A wl rolling on this with a warrior is like a warrior rolling on a ring with 15 int but 20 sta becuase 'they use the sta', its just not on, and it doesnt take a genious to realise what class this item was intended priority for.
Any wl or druid that rolls on this over the MC regular MT *that takes about 4 million damage for them in a run* is damn greedy and not thinking of the good of the raid.
Druids use every stat on this ring. Armor MORE so than a warrior, defence LESS.
I'd call that pretty much even usage.
Doesnt change the fact that warriors ARE better tanks - or that MT should get this first.
AND WHY THE @#%^ ARE YOU ROLLING ON EPICS?
Edited, Mon Jan 9 04:35:25 2006
If it ever drops im bidding on it along with the warrios/locks/pallys.
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Decisions usually aren't that easy, and if you make them that easy, then you're just not being fair to your fellow players. There's a bigger picture out there. Find it.
and im sorry but no one cares about druid bear form armor % bonus because quite frankly a druid or warlock will not be tanking MC.
Basically there are 2 ring slots, there are plenty of rings out there that are more adapted for druids/warlocks.
Another case of the "Woaaooowhhh, its purple, /drool, /roll"
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wow isn't just a pve game, people pvp aswell. and that ring is golden for a druid that pvps alot and uses his forms effectivly.
and while i don't tank mc bosses, i have off tanked in mc before.
kthxstfu.
From how you're talking you have no idea how threatbuilding works, and how well a feralspecced bear can do it. I've seen him take over aggro on bosses in instances from warriors that have tanked for a good 10-15 seconds before he goes in, this without using taunt. (Once we've played this game enough, doing experiments like this is a fun way to spice things up)
With numbers like 8000+ hitpoints, 13000+ armor, >20% dodge and attackpower enough to crit for over 1000 on Mauls, you'll be hardpressed to find warriors that can outaggro him or that are easier to keep up.
And yes, he got first priority on this ring when it dropped in MC.
Edited, Thu Jun 8 12:01:11 2006
anything else you'd love to know?
And druids don't ALWAYS use Int pal, if I shift to bear form, 110 ac converts to 506. Plus 200hp and a nice amount of Defense.
I'm not saying druids/warlocks should get first priority, but it does just as much good for them as it does for you.
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