13.35% Chance To Drop. (5,263 in 39,411) Found on 2 creatures in 1 zones (average creature level: 62).This item can only be found on specific creatures.
Good elementary dps ring for any class who does physical damage. Common, and easy to acquire. Nice to pair with he Band of Flesh (or a Myrmidon's Signet) for a PvP setup.
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Put that sig back again and you are banned. I already removed it once.
Great upgrade over Band of Flesh, now all I need is to replace my Seal of the Gurabashi bezerker with Don Julio's Band and I'm good to go... once i hit exalted with AV that is.
This puts me over 22% crit in zerker stance, and the chance to hit is nice. Fury warriors, rogues, and maybe hunters should roll on this. IMHO, rogues should get priority (Im saying this as a fury warrior) since their permanent job at all times is damage output. Fury warriors can definately dish out the damage, I know first hand, but we lose out in the off occasion we have to offtank and equip a tanking ring like band of resolution or somesuch.
Hunters? Not so much. 16 attack power does not mean hunter item. Its a perk, but comon, let the rogues and dps warriors get this before you do. Grab a green 'of the monkey' ring and stop crippling raid progress by rolling on something another class can use alot better.
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"If failure were pie, you'd be hot, crispy, and full of apples."
"Rend adds about 8 dps if you spec imp rend. Therefore, if you put it on 100 mobs, thats an additional 800 dps. HOW IS 800 extra DPS BAD?"
I for one have a 60 rogue and 60 warrior and totally disagree with you for the following reasons:
1. In any endgame instance a warrior should and always have any defense piece equipped i dont' give a @#%^ what spec you are that is and will always be your job reguardless. Save the damage for the BG's. I dont' wanna hear: "ZOMG'Z have you ever seen a fury warrior do damage?" Yes I have, but the place for a warrior has and always will be with a shield in hand and taking damage.
2. A rogue is a dps class first and foremost.A rogue would get more use out of that ring , hell even a hunter, than a warrior ever will in a endgame instance.
In conclusion,It's a good ring for all classes, but is it strictly a Warrior item? @#%^ No! Rogues and Hunters should have priority over this item before a warrior even gets there grubby mits on it. They would put it to MORE use than a warrior ever would inside end game.
This ring IS valuable for all 3 classes but NEVER EVER say that a FURY warrior shouldn't get this or should stick to tanking. I out DPS rogues of my same gear level all the time and I can still Off-tank when the MT gets stunned for those 5 scary seconds. All 3 should NEED on this.
Warriors have far more need of this item than rogues or hunters, or especially paladins ever will. Everytime they see +1% chance to critical they think that automatically means its a rogue or hunter item, no matter what the other stats are it seems. It's like a hunter rolling on Zin'Rokh over a Warrior. It makes no sense, stop and think. There are far better items for your class, so Warriors take priority on this over all of you.
I for one have a 60 rogue and 60 warrior and totally disagree with you for the following reasons:
1. In any endgame instance a warrior should and always have any defense piece equipped i dont' give a @#%^ what spec you are that is and will always be your job reguardless. Save the damage for the BG's. I dont' wanna hear: "ZOMG'Z have you ever seen a fury warrior do damage?" Yes I have, but the place for a warrior has and always will be with a shield in hand and taking damage.
2. A rogue is a dps class first and foremost.A rogue would get more use out of that ring , hell even a hunter, than a warrior ever will in a endgame instance.
In conclusion,It's a good ring for all classes, but is it strictly a Warrior item? @#%^ No! Rogues and Hunters should have priority over this item before a warrior even gets there grubby mits on it. They would put it to MORE use than a warrior ever would inside end game.
Sigh...are you really this stupid or do you have to try.
Most end game guilds have their tanks maybe 3-4 geared out tanks while the rest are there for DPS, with really nice OT gear. For you to say that every warrior in every end game raid should be in tank gear makes you look profoundly ignorant about the goings on of the end game instances. Most fights in the end game only require one main tank, so on these encounters you are suggesting that all the warriors don their swords and shields for these fights?
Also since we are talking about end game...this item is clearly not end game worthy, this is a blue ring that is nice for a casual player and will definitely be replaced by and self respecting raider sooner than later.
This ring should go to anyone who could possibly use it, druids, shammies, pallies, rogues, warriors and hunters all should have equal "dibs" its not that exclusive, its not epic and its relatively easy to get...UBRS has no reset day. So pull your head out of your holier than thou world and come back to the game.
BTW I also play a Warrior (Graal on Bloodhoof), a Rogue (Nelbert on Lightninghoof), and a Mage(Melbert on Lightninghoof)...all are 60.
Im a rogue and would love to add this ring in to my crit% pool. But the lucky dice never shows itself (I use don julio/tarnished elven ring atm), 30.5% crit chance ;) Lost on rolls for this one twice, both times shamans won :\ now Ive stopped doing UBRS too, so will never see it :P *huff*
UBRS is mostly done in PUG's. In a PUG you roll on everything that you need, may it be tanking better or doing PvP better (in a warriors case).
Warriors that tanks and do PvP needs 3 different sets. FR gear, defense gear and DPS gear (how many other classes do that? Warriors and druids who wanna tank). I'll roll on this without a doubt unless it's a guildrun and a rogue really wants it (rogues can't tank so they DPS all the time, I DPS 90% of the times but I do everything for my guildies).
But PLEASE stop with all comments about who's ring this is. Post useful stuff instead. I've lost roll on this ring twice, once for a pally and once for a rogue. I'm not complaning even though most people consider palas to be anything but meleer's.
If you lose a roll, take it in a mature way! As long as it's not a caster who's rolling on it he deserves it just as much as you!
Thats because of the tiger exists. I am a feral and have a Quick Strike Ring and for my second ring I use a green of the tiger ring over Painweaver. why? Because it has 10 agil = 0.5% Crit AND Dodge 10ap, 9 str = 21.6ap for feral 18 ap for nonferal. So 0.5% crit/dodge 31.6 ap > 1% crit 18ap and 7 stam
Why are there so many unexperienced dicks adding useless comments here? This ring is serious killer in warriors hands, and ppl who say fury warrior cant out dps mages/rogues in BWL with good gear, get a grip. As almost every warrior aims for a great %crit, this is a nice addon. I dont get ppl who say it doesnt suit warrior as good as other classes since they aren't able to use it always, again many warriors just tank because they have to, instances will be troublesome without tanking and christ sake, thats why we are tanking, give us a credit, from our hard work we wanna enjoy some pvp:ing with great gear, this is good addon to every warrior whos interested in dmg dealing gear, how are the BG's if warriors run around with +60 def and 1h? i think the server is soon empty of warriors.
first of all.. Rogue needs crit, rogues are all about crit. I agree warriors need crit in pvp, but a warrior that wants crit for tanking.. a fool. it is true he can aggro better, but he dies so fast it matters not he kept the aggro better.
Sta. I agree warriors need sta more than others FOR TANKING! in pvp warriors have so great armor compared to Rogues they dont need it as much.
16 AP means 16 str for a rogue, but warr could get that for 8 str!
so.. Crit -> rogue wins Sta tank Warrior > rogue > PVP warrior AP -> Rogue wins
Cant say that much about hunters cause havent played one that long.
I was the only rogue in the group of 15. Then everyone except the mages and preists rolled on it. Needless to say i was pissed i was with a PUG rather than my guild. But lo and behold i won out of 10 peopel for my only win in the run. It was a good night.
i have one of these, as a 60 pally. its quite funny how i got mine too.
i rolled a 31, and then claimed that was my roll for the beaststalker chestpiece. to my suprise and quite a few others, the leader believed me. i then rolled a 99, and snagged it ;).
Edited. Pysical dps class rogue/hunter/dps warrior/feral druids Protection warriors needing it to grind Resto druids needing it to grind Paladins needing it to grind/ Protection/retri specced should be given money to respecc holy so that they can be made useful.
this ring is for any hunter warrior rogue or paladin as a warrior id rather get ringa with +defense for tanking than these but pull this sh*t out for some massive dps
Alliance Warriors could use http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=12548 instead, it has a little less (4) attack power but you'll end up with more block, Rogues only get 1 attack power for strength and strength doesn't give range attack power for Hunters so why not let these two classes roll over you when you can get a very similar item quite easily?
Anyhow, it's a good ring, better than Tarnished Elven and probably the best Blue ring for a rogue.
You got to be kidding me? You cant seriously say +16 attackpower aint just as good for a hunter as a rogue. And comparing it for the magnis will is just retarded, because we ofc want both.
And fyi +16 attackpower applies to both ranged and melee. Which equals 1.6 more dps for a hunter.
I think you misinterpert what he's saying. He's saying alliance warriors should get Magni's Will (which is from a quest, so everyone can get it) because it is nearly identical, and let hunters/rogues roll on Painweaver first.
hunters and rogues, no offence but quit ur whining and go for this one it's doable with ur guild cos u only need 5 people, not all that hard and u can wear 2 of those which are waaaaaaaaaaaay better for u then this ring here. furthermore, no warrior in his right mind would roll over this when a hunter or rogue needs. to say even more, they won't be able to cos when u do tribute run there is so much loot they'll have to put their need somewhere else. so really... fock drak and kill the king ^^
i agree with this 110%, get that ring, no warrior should want that ring over this one... 15agil is just not ideal, my pally would take a painweaver in a heartbeat, but i'll pass every time on the ring that was suggested in the prev post... so get that!
if you think its wrong for a warrior to roll on this .. pls go ****** yourself. with my warrior i will be able to achieve 30% critchance easily with bracers that have crit% rings that have crit% and neclkace that has crit%
Warriors outdamage everyone in MC? Who in the blue hell have you been running with? I've seen a Warrior in the top 5 once, and that was a brand new MC team vs a Dual Wield, Arms/Fury, epic geared Warrior, Rogues/Hunters still topped him.
Been trying to get this forever. Dozens of UBRS runs and it finally drops today.
When I finally get a good roll, /rand on 84. A warrior rolls 94.
I just think it's wrong when a Hunter/Rogue loses a +agi/+ap/+crit ring to a Warrior. I don't mind them getting it, but you gotta give us priority if we call our N on it.
I should've just ninja'd that thing. Hunter ninja, ftw.
ok now let me see..... ive done ubrs what some 50 times or so? lets say 30 to be fair, but more than that tbh
general usually drops 2 blue....
this is supposed to have a 17% drop rate....
I have NEVER EVER seen this damn ring drop!!!!! ever!! i mean fgs, out of the 60-70 drops i have witnessed sofar from the gay lizard, there have been like 10-20 draconian deflectors (18% drop my ass every warrior/pally and their mother has one) but 0 (ZERO) rings. sad thing is that until i get my hands on a good epic ring (that will cost me some dear DKP) this is pretty much the next best thing for a rogue - IF IT EVER DROPS. damn those past midnight ubrs runs.... to let some steam off they say...
I want to slap each and every one of you who don't think Warriors should have priority over this item. I want to slap you, your children, your childrens children and your puppy.
<^>-_-
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Dreamdemon 60Warrior Horde Dragonmaw EU Rightleg 49Rogue Alliance Frostwhisper EU Warning 34Priest Horde Dragonmaw EU
I am a warrior and i would tank with this ring. Not just in pvp you wanna crit but also in pvp. Why you ask? look at it this way. Crits=double damage correct? double damage=double threat generated per hit correct? and because my crits also dot more damage and more threat towards warrior. Also more rage so i can use sunder armor more and even MS(only when i have like 40+ rage otherwise sunder is better for aggro hold) which again equals more aggro. tanks need to do some damage and the fact is that i tank with arms/fury and i hld aggro sometimes better than denfensive. Crits help tank alot you just dont realize it. Its a hunter/warrior/rogue item and if none need then pally shamens get to have it. Otherwise your just gonna have to live with the fact that warriors also Need the item and not just want.
As a Paladin I would never roll for it vs a Hunter or Rogue.. But If they don't have need.. I would roll vs any Warrior for it since it's great pvp Item
Heck my pally would roll on this no matter who was there, every crit i get increases my dmg by 15% for a few seconds so not only am i getting the crit but also additional dmg after. I am going after all the crit/attack power i can get my hands on.
Hunters, rogues, and warriors need this. Granted, warriors need to do more damage in PvP and aren't tanks in that case. However, a hunter or a rogue using say, band of flesh and band of the ogre king will never be as successful as they would with painweaver and masons/blackstone. Where warriors can pull it off with band of flesh and band of the ogre king. Undeniably, painweaver band is a necessity for warriors in PvP. But, hunters and rogues could use it more often. (In my opinion of course and keep in mind that as a hunter i would never yell at a warrior for rolling on it, but those paladins need to understand....THEY'RE SECONDARY HEALERS)
Every melee oriented class would whant this ring, why? to stand as a the winner in PvP. And this ring is much easier to get then the typhoon. To say that if a warrior rolls on this ring is the same as a hunter rolling on typhoon is the same are a really really stupid person. In end game its PvP that matter and a warrior whants to deal dmg in PvP not stand as a rock doing nothing, so all you that fail the roll on this ring just has to do the instance again. PLZ quit the "this is a hunter item bull s h i t" and to say that a hunter that needs typhoon is the same as a warrior rolling on this ring, then a warrior can roll on dreadmist sets and so on just beacause he can use it?
All warriors should roll on that....if they are PvP oriented. Rogues/Hunters are not the only ones that want crit. I have eye of Rend, deathdealer bp, emberfury talisman, etc. I didn't see this as a warrior item at first, but now, definetly so. Remember that most warriors hate being tanks, and the only reason they are doing it is to get the gear that will help them kick someone's @55. so quit your whining.
I don't agree with Warriors rolling on this in many cases. So it may be good for Warriors in PvP, but it's good for hunters and rogues ALL THE TIME. This is a ring a rogue/hunter would wear as part of their lv60 gear, not just a PvP OR PvE set. Therefore, a warrior rolling against a hunter/rogue for this is just being greedy. Hunter/rogues would make much more use out of this than any warrior would. Besides I'm sure there are many other rings a warrior get get along with instead of this one to increase their crit/dmg output whereas this is one of the best rings I've seen for a rogue. And the fact that it drops off a BOSS is another reason warriors rolling are just being rude - it's not so easy to kill a boss. There are plenty of other attack/crit rings that drop off other smaller bosses of many dungeons that are much easier to get, so I'd say have at it.
Temperd is right. While it is undeniable that hunters and rogues need this ring, it is just as undeniable that in pvp situations and many pve situations that the ability to deal strong damage while absorbing damage from AoE is essential to the survival of a warrior's group. Situations filled with casters and fast-moving melee damage dealers are often "untankable", and at that point, it is utterly useless to have unkillable armor and defense. Thus, this ring is in high demand amongst all non-caster classes.
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- Daikyu, Dwarven Warrior of Emperium, Whisperwind
That is cool with me... but then don't be whineing when you see a Hunter rolling on a Typhoon. Cause the stats on that sword are just as sweet to our class as is this ring to yours.
One thing I find truly annoying. -You do Strath Baron- Rammstein drops the 16 sta ring. No Rogues, Hunters ever roll, it's assumed to be a tank item (most responsible rogues and hunters anyways)
-You do Drak- Every god damn tank and their grandmother rolls on this.
...that sounds about right, considering there's over a dozen rings out there better for tanks than this, even some of the green ones.
Tell me about it, 3 painweavers in a row some warrior has rolled on it for his "PVP crit set." Warriors in my guild have started doing it so I've taken to exploding on ventrillo when they dare to /random on it with the hunters and rogues.
This puts me over 22% crit in zerker stance, and the chance to hit is nice. Fury warriors, rogues, and maybe hunters should roll on this. IMHO, rogues should get priority (Im saying this as a fury warrior) since their permanent job at all times is damage output. Fury warriors can definately dish out the damage, I know first hand, but we lose out in the off occasion we have to offtank and equip a tanking ring like band of resolution or somesuch.
Hunters? Not so much. 16 attack power does not mean hunter item. Its a perk, but comon, let the rogues and dps warriors get this before you do. Grab a green 'of the monkey' ring and stop crippling raid progress by rolling on something another class can use alot better.
"Rend adds about 8 dps if you spec imp rend. Therefore, if you put it on 100 mobs, thats an additional 800 dps. HOW IS 800 extra DPS BAD?"
1. In any endgame instance a warrior should and always have any defense piece equipped i dont' give a @#%^ what spec you are that is and will always be your job reguardless. Save the damage for the BG's. I dont' wanna hear: "ZOMG'Z have you ever seen a fury warrior do damage?" Yes I have, but the place for a warrior has and always will be with a shield in hand and taking damage.
2. A rogue is a dps class first and foremost.A rogue would get more use out of that ring , hell even a hunter, than a warrior ever will in a endgame instance.
In conclusion,It's a good ring for all classes, but is it strictly a Warrior item? @#%^ No! Rogues and Hunters should have priority over this item before a warrior even gets there grubby mits on it. They would put it to MORE use than a warrior ever would inside end game.
Deredrumtogi <Fallen Fury> - 31 Undead Mage - Firetree
1. In any endgame instance a warrior should and always have any defense piece equipped i dont' give a @#%^ what spec you are that is and will always be your job reguardless. Save the damage for the BG's. I dont' wanna hear: "ZOMG'Z have you ever seen a fury warrior do damage?" Yes I have, but the place for a warrior has and always will be with a shield in hand and taking damage.
2. A rogue is a dps class first and foremost.A rogue would get more use out of that ring , hell even a hunter, than a warrior ever will in a endgame instance.
In conclusion,It's a good ring for all classes, but is it strictly a Warrior item? @#%^ No! Rogues and Hunters should have priority over this item before a warrior even gets there grubby mits on it. They would put it to MORE use than a warrior ever would inside end game.
Most end game guilds have their tanks maybe 3-4 geared out tanks while the rest are there for DPS, with really nice OT gear. For you to say that every warrior in every end game raid should be in tank gear makes you look profoundly ignorant about the goings on of the end game instances. Most fights in the end game only require one main tank, so on these encounters you are suggesting that all the warriors don their swords and shields for these fights?
Also since we are talking about end game...this item is clearly not end game worthy, this is a blue ring that is nice for a casual player and will definitely be replaced by and self respecting raider sooner than later.
This ring should go to anyone who could possibly use it, druids, shammies, pallies, rogues, warriors and hunters all should have equal "dibs" its not that exclusive, its not epic and its relatively easy to get...UBRS has no reset day. So pull your head out of your holier than thou world and come back to the game.
BTW I also play a Warrior (Graal on Bloodhoof), a Rogue (Nelbert on Lightninghoof), and a Mage(Melbert on Lightninghoof)...all are 60.
A protection spec warrior won this over a rogue and myself (feral druid) which sucked pretty hard. That bastard better wear it! =P
Master Loot was set by priest-leader and he took the ring.
Was very freekin funny ...
Priest item FFS
Edited, Wed Jun 7 13:19:29 2006
Lost on rolls for this one twice, both times shamans won :\ now Ive stopped doing UBRS too, so will never see it :P *huff*
Warriors that tanks and do PvP needs 3 different sets. FR gear, defense gear and DPS gear (how many other classes do that? Warriors and druids who wanna tank). I'll roll on this without a doubt unless it's a guildrun and a rogue really wants it (rogues can't tank so they DPS all the time, I DPS 90% of the times but I do everything for my guildies).
But PLEASE stop with all comments about who's ring this is. Post useful stuff instead. I've lost roll on this ring twice, once for a pally and once for a rogue. I'm not complaning even though most people consider palas to be anything but meleer's.
If you lose a roll, take it in a mature way! As long as it's not a caster who's rolling on it he deserves it just as much as you!
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?1051410
This ring is serious killer in warriors hands,
and ppl who say fury warrior cant out dps mages/rogues in BWL with good gear, get a grip.
As almost every warrior aims for a great %crit, this is a nice addon.
I dont get ppl who say it doesnt suit warrior as good as other classes since they aren't able to use it always, again many warriors just tank because they have to, instances will be troublesome without tanking and christ sake, thats why we are tanking,
give us a credit, from our hard work we wanna enjoy some pvp:ing with great gear, this is good addon to every warrior whos interested in dmg dealing gear, how are the BG's if warriors run around with +60 def and 1h? i think the server is soon empty of warriors.
Primary - Rogue, Warrior
Secondary - Druid (feral), Hunter, Paladin
-Delore-level 60-NE-warrior-realm Bloodscalp|
-Jezzi-level 60-troll-hunter-realm eredar|
-berlexis-level 28-human-rouge-realm stormscale|
-Anthris-level 33-NE-hunter-realm Bloodscalp|
-Painztrainz-level 27-gnome-lock-realm Stormscale|
I am the ownage...
Edited, Wed Dec 28 14:14:13 2005
Sta. I agree warriors need sta more than others FOR TANKING! in pvp warriors have so great armor compared to Rogues they dont need it as much.
16 AP means 16 str for a rogue, but warr could get that for 8 str!
so.. Crit -> rogue wins
Sta tank Warrior > rogue > PVP warrior
AP -> Rogue wins
Cant say that much about hunters cause havent played one that long.
I was the only rogue in the group of 15. Then everyone except the mages and preists rolled on it. Needless to say i was pissed i was with a PUG rather than my guild. But lo and behold i won out of 10 peopel for my only win in the run. It was a good night.
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?663551
60 Paladin Chromaggus
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?566614
i rolled a 31, and then claimed that was my roll for the beaststalker chestpiece. to my suprise and quite a few others, the leader believed me. i then rolled a 99, and snagged it ;).
Defiant - Tauren Druid - Blackwing Lair. PvP
Roll/need order should be like this IMO:
First Rogues and Hunters
Second Warriors
Third Paladins
Pysical dps class rogue/hunter/dps warrior/feral druids
Protection warriors needing it to grind
Resto druids needing it to grind
Paladins needing it to grind/
Protection/retri specced should be given money to respecc holy so that they can be made useful.
as a warrior id rather get ringa with +defense for tanking than these but pull this sh*t out for some massive dps
Anyhow, it's a good ring, better than Tarnished Elven and probably the best Blue ring for a rogue.
Edited, Wed Aug 17 03:12:16 2005
And fyi +16 attackpower applies to both ranged and melee. Which equals 1.6 more dps for a hunter.
Horde Undead Rogue
Bloodscalp
it's doable with ur guild cos u only need 5 people, not all that hard and u can wear 2 of those which are waaaaaaaaaaaay better for u then this ring here. furthermore, no warrior in his right mind would roll over this when a hunter or rogue needs. to say even more, they won't be able to cos when u do tribute run there is so much loot they'll have to put their need somewhere else. so really... fock drak and kill the king ^^
kegs are on me on goldshire/dunemaul server
Dartagnan - 60 rogue *Dunemaul - Alliance*
Damagetrain - 60 warrior *Haomarush - Horde*
Snowbull - 60 shaman *Haomarush - Horde*
Psygothic - 60 priest *Haomarush - Horde*
Goron - 60 hunter *Dragonmaw - Horde*
When I finally get a good roll, /rand on 84. A warrior rolls 94.
I just think it's wrong when a Hunter/Rogue loses a +agi/+ap/+crit ring to a Warrior. I don't mind them getting it, but you gotta give us priority if we call our N on it.
I should've just ninja'd that thing. Hunter ninja, ftw.
general usually drops 2 blue....
this is supposed to have a 17% drop rate....
I have NEVER EVER seen this damn ring drop!!!!! ever!! i mean fgs, out of the 60-70 drops i have witnessed sofar from the gay lizard, there have been like 10-20 draconian deflectors (18% drop my ass every warrior/pally and their mother has one) but 0 (ZERO) rings. sad thing is that until i get my hands on a good epic ring (that will cost me some dear DKP) this is pretty much the next best thing for a rogue - IF IT EVER DROPS. damn those past midnight ubrs runs.... to let some steam off they say...
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Rightleg 49Rogue Alliance Frostwhisper EU
Warning 34Priest Horde Dragonmaw EU
Edited, Sun Mar 13 14:54:04 2005
-You do Strath Baron-
Rammstein drops the 16 sta ring. No Rogues, Hunters ever roll, it's assumed to be a tank item (most responsible rogues and hunters anyways)
-You do Drak-
Every god damn tank and their grandmother rolls on this.
...that sounds about right, considering there's over a dozen rings out there better for tanks than this, even some of the green ones.
kasakasa to waga ashi ni fure
iki taeta chou wo yumemiru
stamina hmmm dont know why a tank would want more of this :P
you rogues and hunters just see the AC and crit, warriors see it all to help them.
Warriors have a need for this item too it can work in PvE and PvP...
So stop the OMG warrior a NINJA!!! becuase we need it too
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