was running my new toon thru the paces in the Tutorial and low and behold thousands of corpses...no lie the lag was so bad i left the area...some one needs to teach them to loot thar corpses sheesh :(
maybee have a NPC in thair to instruct them on the fine points of looting on the fly, or a cleric there to rez so you walk us and /say rez my corpse. lol

Being someone who is anxietly awaiting the opening of the progression servers and who has played EQ since march of 99. The whole thing about this death penalty doesnt concern me. However, the thought of what im guessing is going to be around 2000 ppl trying to level in the tutorial does. when a new server opened up in EQ back in 99 there was a huge explosion of ppl from other servers pouring in to restart their toons. if you experienced this then you know what im talking about. 100 ppl in west freeport hunting snakes, bats, etc is really fun and exciting sure.. but really exaporating when your a melee and you got blasters nuking from afar. basically it was a race to see who could do 51% damage. (melees usually lost) but since reading the posts and anticipating what seems to me to be a huge following, 2000 ppl in the mines is going to be just plain obsurd. remember when the bazaar would get 750ppl and then have to be brought down for a reboot. i just hope that sony is anticipating this and has geared up. i dont think the mines have experienced the kind of torture they are going to be put through in a few weeks. its been well documented that the mines are the best launch for gaining exp to level 6. so im just assuming that this is where a good deal of ppl will start out. im just wondering however if avoiding the mines all together would in the long run benefit those of us would want a more tranquil start without all the /ooc soandso "stop KS'ing me.. that was my rat",

you know its going to happen. theres always going to be a noob out there.

It ain't classic, and it ain't the current game. This progression server is going to be a twist on who knows what. As things are developing they are becoming less interesting, not more. Who knows what it will be at launch. I can only guess that SOE got scared by the fact a number (large number actually) of guilds want to race to content unlock, and instead of letting that happen under the current rules it will happen under a new set. Tweaking the economy (yes, they have changed vendor sell rates) and altering the death penalty points won't make a damn bit of difference to that race. If they want to slow down the rate at which content is unlocked, they can do that by policy instead of these minor changes.

I must have missed that they are leaving corpses at level 6 as well. I didn't see them leaving corpses any earlier than they already do in this change.

So what the hell are you ppl talking about newbie corpses? Do you know what you are talking about?

Back when I started at the end of 2000, I can't tell you how many times I hunted down my body because I ran 100 miles deep into Greater Fay and got slaughtered by that relentless orc centurion chasing me away from orc hill or the entrance of crushbone.

One poster here had the same feeling I did tho.

WHY are you spending development and testing $$$ on **** like this when there is a TON of actual game design issues that sorely need that $$$ moreso.

Honestly, this forces me to think that since the veteran players generally pay the cheaper rate (yearly or more subscriptions) then the newbies that pay the higher month-by-month rate must get priority.

Basically saying yeah you're money is cool, but it would be cooler if you gave us more of it like these toolbox newbies.

Yeah right. $145 x 2 is enough!

Ooookkkkk and this will accomplish what? Ive been playing for a long long time and let me tell you, when your new to the game and you die at low level and lose your corpse you have no idea how to get it. I remember on my first toon (a lvl 2 wizzy) i died somewhere in Gfay and i had no f****in idea where anything was. SO i couldnt find my corpse anywhere. I ended up not being able to find my corpse deleted him and made a new toon. But it really sucks to find a corpse when you have never played before...

Edited, Fri Jun 2 13:09:05 2006

Does anyone at SOE even play EQ anymore or are you all totally absorbed in "the big picture" and gazing at yourself in mirrors. Please do not try some lame excuse about ramping up death xp when it is now and always has been one of your worst game features. I truly think that with your loss of GM's and guides you have lost your finger on the pulse of the game. Instead of messing with non issue items like this ..you should be asking yourself why did the GM's and guides leave. The Darwin awards need a new category for corporate myoptics

P.S I applaud your joint venture with Sigil..because following the release of VSoH it will be your only real presence in the MMORPG game.

As I was reading all the post and complaints by so called veterans about newbie bodies all over the place I was wonder were these bodies were. Glooming deep mines? If so how can vets even get there? This is a totally bunk argument. I for on was grateful for the no xp penalty in the Glooming deep mines as a newb. In fact there is not reason to even leave the mines until you hit lvl 11. Its the fastest xp around. Since I am somewhat experienced this will not hamper my ability to still create new toons in Glooming deep mines, but people new to EQ really could use the extra help. I think atleast not imposing the xp penalty in Gloomingdeep would go a long way to attracting more people to EQ.

Newbie corpses littering up what zone? As if you even hunt in newbie zones to begin with. PoK? Those corpses are "Sacrificed". Can't tell you how many times I've seen that happen at the MB.

Lowering it back down a return to old school and you are gonna sign back up?

You have no idea what Old School was, do us a favor, forget about it continue on with your WoW gaming.

Far fewer trains, rude players, KS'ing going on now than in the "Olden" days.

The tutorial was a great addition, as a learning tool to master some of the basics. But now that it is forced on you with every new toon it has become a nuisance.

Still, it's a nice and easy way to get a free and good stat charm that more than likely will last well into your 40's or 50's. Reducing the death/XP loss down to 6 really doesn't make much of a difference to veteran players.

Of course all the Vets get the 100% self rez as well, so whooopie to reducing it down to 6.

As if this would make the game any better or worse.

If its its true eq is going back to the way it use to be im signing back up tomorrow

Yea thats what it sounds like old school eq again. Just wait till its 1st lvl

Guess no more newbie gates between 6 and 10 huh?