EQOA Update on 3/11 at 9:00 am PDT

March 11, 2005 -------------- Path Spell CM changes: ***Players that had previously gotten the 3 correct abilities at 20, 30, and 40, but the incorrect one at 49 are now able to purchase a 1 point class mastery that corrects this for them. Lord Nagafen Access Quest changes: ***The Fire Giant Magus has assumed Nagafen's old spawn time and requires that you complete his tasks before engaging the great Nagafen. Other changes: ***The dark ore for the mid level Zentar's Keep hunt and gather quest should drop more frequently. ***The basilisk teeth for the level 20 Ogre Shaman quest should drop a bit more frequently. ***Lower level gnomes should find the brittle rat whiskers dropping more often. ***Alchemist's level 54 draught, Pure Refinement, no longer cancels in battle. ***Alchemist's level 60 ability, Cunning Intent, can no longer be cast on anyone below level 30. ***Druid's level 50 charm CM caps out before the level 60 CM takes effect, and is no longer as effective as a spellbinder's charm to animals. ***Enchanter's level 39 charm, Captivate, now scales appropriately until the enchanter reaches 53 (and the CM upgrade scales appropriately as well). This results in being able to utilize the charm until you get the upgrade, Allure. ***Necromancer pets (44+) have had their harm touch and life tap ability recast times lengthened. ***The Guard CM is now a requirement for purchasing the Immortal Guard CM and cannot be deleted without surrendering the abilities given. ***Ranger's CM ability Wolf's Instinct now stacks with all other buffs besides other forms. ***Various minor item issues have been corrected. ***Various quest text issues have been corrected. ***Some rocks around Norrath may not be stable to stand near, pay attention and be warned! ***Wildling master class ability, Wild Nature, should now fill your hitpoints after they are increased.

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stupid
# Mar 11 2005 at 4:05 PM Rating: Default
man thats bull what they did to the necs they might as well give em a ench pet with no heal they shouldnt of even messed with the nec's pet what about the mages earth cm that lets them solo reds so how is that even considerd evening out the classes they should at least boostin the HoT of the pet buff for necs so they dont die as fast

Edited, Sat Mar 12 02:59:30 2005
RE: stupid
# Mar 11 2005 at 4:53 PM Rating: Default
So what is the new recast and how does the new recast times affect a necros DPS. If you do not know these ansewers shut up since you are talking out of your ***.

Secondly to me those pet buffs are already over powered. It is equal to the mages version with a longer duration. So quit winning and wait and see if there is a balance before you start complaining that your necro is weak now.

BTW it doesnt take an earth cm'd mage to solo. I can solo on any of my mages pets and my necros pets. That includes reds.
RE: stupid
# Mar 12 2005 at 2:46 AM Rating: Default
i do know these answeres and i have tested how a necro pet does in battle and it was poor.so unless your gonna put answeres up yourself dont reply to stuff ya dont know yourself.
RE: stupid
# Mar 12 2005 at 9:41 AM Rating: Decent
I have noticed that you still wont post the facts. What is the new recast, until you prove that the recast increase has made the necro pet the weakest you still dont have a point.
RE: stupid
# Mar 15 2005 at 8:54 PM Rating: Good
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I think instead of people complaining about how powerful necromancers are, they should just make one. I mean really if necromancers are so powerful why not play one. That's what I did.

I think people just complaing because their class can't use bloods, or supposedly "solo as easily" as a necromancer can. But truth is, any class can solo just as easily as the other, it's all based on how you build your toon.

I can remember when people used to laugh at how "crappy" Paladin's were as a class. Now people are quickly realizing that the only way you can kill a well built Paladin, is by running them oom. So what's next? Are people going to start complaining that Paladin's are too uber and that we should nerf them?

Or how about mage's! I personally have a 60 mage and yeah sure I can solo a lot of different mobs. But just because I'm able to solo something, does that mean that my toon should be nerfed? Hell while we are at it, why don't we just nerf everything.

I'm sick and tired of people complaining that one toon is more powerful than another, and that we need to "level the playing field". If your unhappy with the performance of your toon than it's because you've done something wrong.

I'm going to assume that you have a bard dirges. I've seen some sweet things that bards can do that necromancers can't. Can a necromancer charm a raging rhino? NO! Can a bard? YES! Do necromancers get a ticking group PoT buff? NO!

As for the nerf to the necs, when will the madness stop? When people finally stop complaining? Because if that's the case than maybe necromancers as a class should just be abolished completely. At the rate we're going they'll have bloods that only heal for 1/4 of the damage instead of half. Dots will only tick like twice. Undead nukes will hit for half the damage they do now. They're pets will all be 5 levels lower than they are now. I better stop before I give them any more "bright" ideas =P
RE: stupid
# Mar 15 2005 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
You may want to reread my posts, I have made more effort for balance, and not nerfs. This necro update only doubled the recast times on two attacks the high level pet uses. The pet still HT once every 5 minutes and does 5 life taps every five minutes. There are also a lot of necs on the main boards that say they hardly notice the difference, except they have to pact it more. This update to necro pets was not a nerf, it was an act to balance classes out.

BTW since you mentioned bards, how many bards actually take the charm ability, do you even know what it costs, the duration. You mentioned us being batteries, but have you ever heard some of the necros and one bard talk about being better batteries then bards? Some do. But yet I never called for any changes to the necro power spells have I?

You say people shouldnt complain, but it is amazing that the biggest person saying necros are over powered is a necro on the main board. I am sure a lvl 60 necro would know more about the pets being over powered then you, they do have more experience with them after all.
RE: stupid
# Mar 16 2005 at 1:02 PM Rating: Good
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Sorry perhaps you misunderstood me. I wasn't trying to flame anybody nor was I complaining that the new update was an unfair change made to the game. I was just simply voicing my opinions.

As for bards, I was only using that class just as an example. I could chosen any class to use as an example. Let's take Warriors for example. Most Warriors especially the ones that go Defender get the opportunity to main tank some of the coolest mobs in the game. It takes great skill and knowledge of your character to be able to main tank the mobs just right. This is an awesome experience that necromancers will never get.

All I'm saying, is people have been calling for a "balancing of the classes" for a very long time now, and unfortunately people will STILL want changes to be made until there are no changes to be made. I'm not complaining that necros are better or worse as a class, I'm just saying that people look at what a necromancer CAN do, and not what they CAN'T. All I want is people to realize that there are far better abilities out there than blood spells and DoTs.

I'm all for the change they made to necs, I mean if that's what it took to balance things out than awesome that's great. I just want it to stop because they are the only class that has their class changed constantly and not in a beneficial way to themselves.

I have the advantage, being only level 40 by the time I get to 44 and get the first pet that was changed, I probably won't even notice that they did anything at all.

I'm not sure where you were reading on the main eqoa forums, but from what I was reading is that it's different depending on the situation. A 60 necromancer solo'ing / dueling DOES notice the difference, however in a grind at say EG they find they just don't kill AS fast. What the people at the forums ARE recommending, is that something be done to fix a necromancers nukes. As it's been pointed out a necromancer can't nuke for nearly as much as some of the other casters. My 33 druid nukes for almost 300, and my 40 Necromancer, a class that is supposed to be nuking 24/7 only hits for aroudn 450 with his best nuke. My mage at the same level as my nec was hitting for around the 700 - 800 damage mark. My necromancer can't even compare to that.

Anyway, even if you see this as a "balancing" I still see it as a nerf. There was no balancing at all done here. An enchanters pet still tanks better, that didn't change. A magician can still more easily adapt to the situation he/she is in than a necro by having 4 arch type pets as opposed to a necromancers 1. And a wizard / alchemist are still the two best damage dealer casters. If you want to see some balancing of the casters, try giving the necromancers some abilities they can actually call nukes, because the ones they have now are terrible.
RE: stupid
# Mar 15 2005 at 9:45 PM Rating: Good
You may want to reread my posts, I have made more effort for balance, and not nerfs. This necro update only doubled the recast times on two attacks the high level pet uses. The pet still HT once every 5 minutes and does 5 life taps every five minutes. There are also a lot of necs on the main boards that say they hardly notice the difference, except they have to pact it more. This update to necro pets was not a nerf, it was an act to balance classes out.

BTW since you mentioned bards, how many bards actually take the charm ability, do you even know what it costs, the duration. You mentioned us being batteries, but have you ever heard some of the necros and one bard talk about being better batteries then bards? Some do. But yet I never called for any changes to the necro power spells have I?

You say people shouldnt complain, but it is amazing that the biggest person saying necros are over powered is a necro on the main board. I am sure a lvl 60 necro would know more about the pets being over powered then you, they do have more experience with them after all.
RE: stupid
# Mar 15 2005 at 9:45 PM Rating: Good
You may want to reread my posts, I have made more effort for balance, and not nerfs. This necro update only doubled the recast times on two attacks the high level pet uses. The pet still HT once every 5 minutes and does 5 life taps every five minutes. There are also a lot of necs on the main boards that say they hardly notice the difference, except they have to pact it more. This update to necro pets was not a nerf, it was an act to balance classes out.

BTW since you mentioned bards, how many bards actually take the charm ability, do you even know what it costs, the duration. You mentioned us being batteries, but have you ever heard some of the necros and one bard talk about being better batteries then bards? Some do. But yet I never called for any changes to the necro power spells have I?

You say people shouldnt complain, but it is amazing that the biggest person saying necros are over powered is a necro on the main board. I am sure a lvl 60 necro would know more about the pets being over powered then you, they do have more experience with them after all.
RE: stupid
# Mar 15 2005 at 9:44 PM Rating: Good
You may want to reread my posts, I have made more effort for balance, and not nerfs. This necro update only doubled the recast times on two attacks the high level pet uses. The pet still HT once every 5 minutes and does 5 life taps every five minutes. There are also a lot of necs on the main boards that say they hardly notice the difference, except they have to pact it more. This update to necro pets was not a nerf, it was an act to balance classes out.

BTW since you mentioned bards, how many bards actually take the charm ability, do you even know what it costs, the duration. You mentioned us being batteries, but have you ever heard some of the necros and one bard talk about being better batteries then bards? Some do. But yet I never called for any changes to the necro power spells have I?

You say people shouldnt complain, but it is amazing that the biggest person saying necros are over powered is a necro on the main board. I am sure a lvl 60 necro would know more about the pets being over powered then you, they do have more experience with them after all.
RE: stupid
# Mar 12 2005 at 9:41 AM Rating: Good
I have noticed that you still wont post the facts. What is the new recast, until you prove that the recast increase has made the necro pet the weakest you still dont have a point.
yes!
# Mar 11 2005 at 11:00 AM Rating: Default
Kill the necks!
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