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Rusttle, the Enchantering [sic] "new" enchants have been in-game for a while, those were put in to balance LW against other professions. Prior to that, LW offered +130 primary stat vs the non-LW wrist enchants that were 50/65 of a secondary stat.

All the current PvP crafting recipes are getting a name-change and a bump in iLevel, so you shouldn't need to learn the new recipes, and there will be some market for the new 358 gear, both for new PvPers and for PvEers that want to cheat the iLevel system. Also, there's enough of a primary stat + secondary stat upgrade to make 358 PvP gear better than 333 PvE gear.

Because quests and rep. grinds tend to drop PvE gear, and there's not really another good way to get PvP stuff. Besides, there's recipes for crafted epic PvE gear, but not epic PvP stuff.

Edited, Jun 18th 2011 11:35am by someproteinguy

Though you can always pvp to get pvp gear that's probably twice as useful as the blues. With the new change to honor the bg grind shouldn't be as bad and I believe they are changing the conquest cap around a bit so doing rated BG's or getting lucky in arena can earn you pvp gear that way.

I really wish they'd release another engineering helm. They're fun, you can customize them for the stats you want, and they don't look ridiculous like many of the other helms out there.

Well they don't. At least not in my opinion. I think the goggles are kind of cute, where as helms in this game tend to be over the top and ridiculous. Seriously, look. Warlock helms looks crazy. Yes, locks have demons. That doesn't mean the helm has to make a lock look like a demon on crack. The hunter one is terrible. Who the **** wants to wear a murloc on their head? Really. Warrior helm looks like you have a pile driver on your head or something. The priest one I don't even know what to say about it... There are some that people like, the mage helm for example. Meh, I can see why people like it, but I don't think a flaming skull is very mage-like and it looks goofy to me. Druid one is okay. It's not terrible, but it's not good either.

The engineer goggles might look goofy to some people, but they're at least not crazy. They look like weird sunglasses. The ones I had on my priest while leveling up, in particular were really awesome. I loved these in particular. Having pink lazer beams shooting from your eyes is awesome.

Tails is your new short form name. It has been decided.

Probably intended to try to get more people to try PvP rather then the "there's no path" explanation. I guess Blizz figures that if people have a starting set to enter the BGs with then they'll feel less intimidated.

From there you've got a couple of options -

1) Ideal - you win your first few or at least have enough fun that you stick with it

2) OK - the experience isn't too hot but you've already made the investment so you feel committed to tough it out at bit longer. You get enough honor for a real piece and keep trying or you finally have enough and quit.

3) Least preferred - you don't enjoy it and say "f-it" and shard/sell the stuff and move on

Additionally, the PvP gear makes peeps more likely to roll a PvP alt as there's now less effort involved in making it competitive upon dinging max level.

Astarin beat me to it. Leveling gets you quest greens and a couple of rep pieces, which gets you into instances. Championing for rep blues, boss drops, and eventually end-boss JP gets you into heroics. Championing for rep purples, heroic boss drops, JP, and eventually end-boss VP gets you into raids. Raid boss drops, VP, and eventually tier gear gets you into heroic raids (modulo weak tier bonuses and/or badly itemized pieces).

Before resilience, decent PvE gear was also an entry path into PvP. And there were times, from what I hear, that raid-level gear allowed any but the hardest of core to skip PvP gearing entirely. This was obviously too powerful, so resilience gutted the utility of PvE gear in PvP. Unfortunately, that had really been the only gearing path, so when it was removed there now are zero gearing paths.

So you either pay for an entry-level set with gold, or hope that you can mentally stand to lose a great number of times in order to build up honor in bite-size pieces.

Level 85 gear, yes that's mostly true. Leatherworking has a couple of blue capes that are ilvl 333. You can get crafted epic gear, but those tend to be really expensive because of the mats. Lots of volatiles and chaos orbs needed.

Yeah, cause everyone on the other team magically gets full PVP gear while you have to slowly earn it one piece at a time.

Wait, no, they don't - they have to earn their gear battle by battle one piece at a time too.

So in your example the mobs in heroics would have to earn their gear by killing and looting players - I recall how much easier the Lich King was to fight before that one guild chain wiped on him and he got all those epic drops and became so much tougher to kill. ;-P

The path to gearing up for PvP is called "leveling" - you run BGs as you level and save up your points so that by the time you hit whatever the cap is you've got enough points to buy a few decent pieces - it's not all that sophisticated a concept, especially with everyone and their mom dressed head to toe in heirloom gear now a days.