Sure! I'd be happy to DE for you :)Follow

Just wanted to put that out there in defense of my profession. There are waaay too many whiny posts by enchanters wanting to hog all the shards after an instance.

But I promise not all of us are greedy @#$%s. I always tell people I'm willing and able to DE at the start of a run. If someone asks me to de their green drops, I do so cheerfully. If someone passes on shards at the end, I make a point to thank them for doing so. If someone leaves the group without either taking their shard or specifically saying they pass, I assume they forgot, and I put it in the mail.

Even if enchanting weren't a service industry with plenty of competition, there's no need to be stingy with the shards. It's a very profitable profession. Heck - even if you don't get lucky with green drops or loot rolls, you can just go out, do a couple leftover leveling quests and de the rewards.

I mean, come on guys.



Edited, May 14th 2009 6:45pm by Laecy

I think we're all pretty clear that the situation isn't "Enchanters are greedy pricks", it's "There's greedy pricks that are enchanters".

Jewelcrafters are greedy pricks. (j/k).

Correct.

And my aren't you just a big fluffy ball of friendly.

/eyeroll

Enchanting is plenty profitable. I serve myself quite adequately. DE'ing for groups helps other people and does not hurt me. It's not a difficult decision.

Why yes, yes they are.

I actually don't mind the greed as much as the selfishness.

"Yes, I've joined up with you guys in a collaborative effort to accomplish something none of us could do individually. We all have to do our part and pull our weight. There's a service I could provide to the group that costs me nothing, but I'm not going to do it. Why refuse to? Because I can. Nyaah."

Why so bitter? Does your girlfriend charge you for her "service" too?

Protip: "Inbred" is not a noun, and using it as such makes you seem like a third-grader who is leafing through his father's dictionary looking for insults only confirms the previously formed opinions of everyone else here.

Oooh, I like that idea. 1s per heal and extra for buffs and rezzes would probably make a nice amount

200g per B-rez or Ankh. Reagents are a pain in the ***.

I never get these rants...

Shards from items you win? Yours.

Shards from items others won that you DE? Theirs.

Either way, the normal rules of need vs. greed apply. If you want a chance at it, greed it. If you don't pass it.

Plus, once you are at cap especially, who cares about having mats. 99% of the people that want one bring their own mats and tip. You having the items only helps you.

Thus, more reason why people shouldn't pass so you can hog the shards.

Now, RECIPES should be specified at the start of raids. Are you passing them to those with that profession (and who has what), or are you all needing?

That is the ONLY point I think can be contested. Because, while that IS money for the rest of the group, it is still a large boost character-wise for you. It is the same, to me, as needing a BoE blue or purple that is unusable by your class but an upgrade for another. But this is why I clear the group loot rules before.

For the record, I stopped D/Eing for PUG dungeon runs with my hunter not because I was lazy, or because I was mean...I was both of those things, but that's not why I didn't speak up when folks asked if there was an enchanter in the group. I stopped doing it because it was never the three seconds for the D/E...it was waiting for people to finish the transaction. I'm wanting to get on with my life and I'm stuck standing over the corpse of some random boss waiting for a handful of drooling buffoons to accept the trades and click accept. And ya, I was the kind of guy who would get fed up and start counting after I sent the trade request...if I got to 10 without a trade window opening, the shard just became mine. Not because I had any pressing need for it, but because I wasn't interested in waiting around. Obviously it couldn't have been that important.

Having said that...

Tsuvati...just give it up. You did well to lay low after your guild loot whoring debacle; now you can't help but go off on people because they don't back your mindless egocentrism. You're not a very nice person. Get used to having people call you on it. Between the guild loot policies and now this, I think you'd do well to simply assume that if you've got an opinion on a policy or convention revolving around who gets what and why, you're wrong. Just wrong. Don't defend it, don't get all uppity and start calling names. Just get some zen around your wrongness and move on. Srsly. You'll just be doing yourself a favor.

So you're saying that due to this being the internet we should accept the fact that idiots like you are going to mangle the English language due to a combo of low intelligence and poor English skills - check! ;-)



See, that's where the disadvantage of low intelligence kicks in - an inability to recognize sarcasm and/or when someone is demonstrating absurdity by being absurd.



Then why should people give up the BoP items which they could sell just so that you can have a shard or crystal for your benefit?

See, that's the problem with your 'logic' - you're sitting there screaming that people are being greedy because they don't want to let you have everything.



If you expect us to give you all of those shards and abyss crystals, then yes, you should since we're contributing to you leveling and upgrading your enchanting.



See, this is where that lack of intelligence on your part kicks in again - you're demanding the BoP items, which have value both as shards/crystals and merchant bait, yet you're QQing that people would like you to perform the zero-cost-to-you action of DEing the BoP items that they win in a greed roll.



Sorry friend, but you're the window licker/sped here - the OP made a post in defense of chanters, reminding folks that not all chanters are greedy little bastards that want every shard for themselves and who refuse to shard stuff for the rest of the group. He didn't mention you by name nor did he link to your post.

Instead, you came in and started going spastic and cussing out everyone and anyone who agreed with him.

Sorry buddy, but you're the moron that came in and started throwing a tantrum.



And for that we're quite thankful.



Isn't the guy who comes into a thread and starts screaming at people the one who needs to get out - ie/you? ;-)



We can only hope you'll stand by your statement.



Damn, couldn't even keep your word that long - ah well, as noted, this is the internet. >_<



ROTFLMAO!!! I take it that your limited intellect can't grasp irony either?



Do you share this loot rule with them before the run or only at the end so that you come off as a ninja?



I'll take that as a no then - something that you spring on them at the end of the run.

Well don't worry kid - with your attitude and behavior you not only wont have to worry about us not grouping with you, but pretty soon, I doubt anyone but the most worthless muppets on your server will be willing to group with you.

Think about it kiddo - you have to pug a lot for a reason and its not your leet dps. ;-)