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#202 Mar 04 2007 at 9:01 AM Rating: Decent
apollogic wrote:
so i have to buy the items whose buyout/bid price is lower than the HSP/2 to make a profit then, is that correct ??

In general, yes. Basically, when you say percentless 50, what you are asking is for Enchantrix to subtract 50% of the HSP price from itself to create a buy-out price. Then it looks for items that have a buy-out price that is equal to or lower than the buy-out. If you are satisfied with a 40% profit rather than a 50% profit, you would subtract 40% of the HSP from the HSP to create a buy-out price. This might generate a lower profit, but provide a much larger sample of items to be disenchanted - volume could make a big difference, but it's really up to the individual on which eay to go. I know that there have been times when I could find very few items that met HSP/2, so sometimes I've fudged a little - but not by much.

edit: I forgot to mention one thing. For higher-ticket items, like ARCANE DUST, I don't really go with HSP/2. For those, I look for gold. For things I buy that are over 2G in cost, I look for at least a 1G profit, and for things that I buy for over 5G, I look for a 2G profit. Often the buy-out does not meet HSP/2, but still returns a very ince profit. This is the equivalent of using /Bidbroker, rather than /percentless.

Edited, Mar 4th 2007 9:08am by ohmikeghod
#203 Mar 10 2007 at 8:57 AM Rating: Decent
is there a way to back up the auctioneer database coz not so long ago i had an error with WoW program so i ran the repair utility and it deleted all the add-ons i had which means my auctioneer database was, sadly, also gone..

oh and one more thing with enchantrix. is it 100% accurate?? coz my friend got this "cross dagger of agility" and he disenchanted into 2 greater astral essence but the enchantrix told me that it can be disenchanted into only greater magicessence 75%, soul dust 20%, large glimmering shard 5% and other two things less than 1% which are not greater astral essence.. and some items it doesnt have the data on what it can be disenchanted into..

ps i just downloaded the latest enchantrix from the auctioneer site..

Edited, Mar 12th 2007 12:58pm by apollogic
#204 Mar 23 2007 at 6:48 AM Rating: Good
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Hmmmp... they released the new auctioneer but they are rewriting enchantrix again.. wonder how long that takes, anybody found an alternative addon?
#205 Mar 23 2007 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
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is there a way to back up the auctioneer database coz not so long ago i had an error with WoW program so i ran the repair utility and it deleted all the add-ons i had which means my auctioneer database was, sadly, also gone..


Yes, it's not only possible it is highly advised. Auctioneer developers stress over and over again that you should back up your data files regularly. Here is a link to the page on their wiki that discusses the method:


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oh and one more thing with enchantrix. is it 100% accurate??


Well, Enchantrix has never been "100% accurate" since what it does is predict percentages of chances to render a particular item or items. But, that aside, Enchantrix is particularly not accurate right now for items that have an item level of 56 or higher (don't quote me on that). Note that the item level is not the same thing as the user level. It's still accurate for items below that level. The program is currently in gamma status, even the "latest." I've not used the newer gamma because I never deleted Enchantrix from my original Auctioneer installation, so I can't speak to how it's working.
#206 Mar 26 2007 at 4:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Heya guys...I´m having some problem when trying this, prolly it´s some of configuration or something like that.

When I type /enchantrix percentless 50, it returns a msg like this: "Buyouts having 50% savings over average disenchant values (min = 10):
Percentless done."

I tryed percentless 70, 90, 30, 10, 5...same msg. I had the 3.9 and now I got the Auctioneer 4.0, with no success.

Plz, I´d like some help here, if you can.

Thx guys...see ya
#207 Mar 26 2007 at 4:59 AM Rating: Default
rikeoliveira wrote:
Heya guys...I´m having some problem when trying this, prolly it´s some of configuration or something like that.

When I type /enchantrix percentless 50, it returns a msg like this: "Buyouts having 50% savings over average disenchant values (min = 10):
Percentless done."

I tryed percentless 70, 90, 30, 10, 5...same msg. I had the 3.9 and now I got the Auctioneer 4.0, with no success.

Plz, I´d like some help here, if you can.

Thx guys...see ya

ARE YOU ASKING THE QUESTION BECAUSE YOU CAN'T READ? The question has been answered already in this thread.
#208 Mar 28 2007 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
Okay a couple of questions.

First-do i have to use an alt.. becasue i already have like 270 enchanting

Second-Most of the time when doing the 50% thing, do you always get things that De into Strange dust, and that level essence, or can you get lvl 40+ items? because it would seem to me that you would get a better profit off of the higher level items. So what do you think?

Thanks.
#209 Mar 29 2007 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Why the *** does people need to feel superior? Oh God. Yeah...I must have read the full thread, but it´d hurt you to just say: Hey, we´ve answered it already, take a read!...but...well, as I said: People needs to feel that they are better than the others. Nvm.

Thx for the answer. Be happy.
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Edited, Mar 29th 2007 6:08pm by rikeoliveira
#210 Mar 30 2007 at 4:27 PM Rating: Decent
Reathon wrote:
First-do i have to use an alt.. becasue i already have like 270 enchanting
NO, you don't need an alt. What you need to do is reserve time at the beginning and end of a session to do the AH thing if you are doing this with your main. Doing the searches by hand (because Percentless and Bidbroker are disabled) takes a bit of time (about 1 hour for me). I usually only do searches once a day, and the rest of the time spent at the AH/mailbox is spent disenchanting items that have arrived in the mail. When DEing it's best to have all of your bags empty, so you might think about reserving some bank slots to place your adventuring bags into while you DE into your empty bags. This also ensures that you don't DE stuff you want to keep (like spare armor).

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Second-Most of the time when doing the 50% thing, do you always get things that De into Strange dust, and that level essence, or can you get lvl 40+ items? because it would seem to me that you would get a better profit off of the higher level items. So what do you think?

Actually, the profit off the bigger items is smaller, but the amount of gold is better. When you buy a L45 item at 8G that DE's into a 10G sale, your profit is 20%, but the amount of gold made is 2G. That's as opposed to a L12 item that you buy at 4S and DE into 10S worth of mats. Your profit on the lesser item is 60%, but your total take is only 6S.
#211 Apr 02 2007 at 9:46 PM Rating: Decent
hiya, i recently found this thread and thought Id try it out. When i downloaded enchantrix/auctioneer, it seems the most recent version of percentless is disabled. Are people still using an older version, or simply going through by hand, or is there an alternate mod out that i dont know about? I looked earlier in the thread, but couldnt find the answer.

Thanks in advance.
#212 Apr 03 2007 at 3:31 AM Rating: Decent
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In my DE experiences it much better to concentrate on essence and ignore dust (except vision and illusion dust which sells like hotcakes on my server).

Lesser essences sell for more profit than the greater essences so I find most of my money making coming from breaking them down and selling them on the AH at a significant profit!
#213 Apr 03 2007 at 3:50 AM Rating: Decent
ssgrif wrote:
In my DE experiences it much better to concentrate on essence and ignore dust (except vision and illusion dust which sells like hotcakes on my server).

Lesser essences sell for more profit than the greater essences so I find most of my money making coming from breaking them down and selling them on the AH at a significant profit!

I guess it depends on the server. My fastest selling item is Strange Dust.
#214 Apr 08 2007 at 11:20 AM Rating: Decent
I tried the DE tooltip in the auction house and it didnt seem to work for me. maybe i was doing something wrong?

Anyway my real question: Since enchantrix' percentless function is currently disabled, what are you guys using to determine what to buy and DE from teh AH? Just going off previous knowledge? Using an outdated mod? Using a different mod?
#215 Apr 09 2007 at 1:55 AM Rating: Decent
Dochandsome wrote:
I tried the DE tooltip in the auction house and it didnt seem to work for me. maybe i was doing something wrong?

click on the disenchant icon before mousing over the items in the AH.

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Anyway my real question: Since enchantrix' percentless function is currently disabled, what are you guys using to determine what to buy and DE from teh AH? Just going off previous knowledge? Using an outdated mod? Using a different mod?

I changed the tooltip display to show HSP only. If the price of the item is HSP/2 or less, I buy it to DE. If the bid price on an item is less than HSP/2, I bid on the item. For items that are level 46-56, I hand-calculate the HSP by using math and prior knowledge of what those items DE into. Once you know the value of the mats you can create, going through all the available auctions is fairly simple (if tedious).

Edited, Apr 9th 2007 2:57am by ohmikeghod
#216 Apr 09 2007 at 11:23 PM Rating: Decent
Hm so when you hover over with de button pressed, is it just the 'requires level 225' that you're looking at? and from that you predict what it will de into?

So many expensive greens , its a risky market without percentless =o
#217 Apr 10 2007 at 6:04 PM Rating: Decent
Dochandsome wrote:
Hm so when you hover over with de button pressed, is it just the 'requires level 225' that you're looking at? and from that you predict what it will de into?

So many expensive greens , its a risky market without percentless =o


Here's what I use - change the prices to match mat prices on your server and do the math.

Level 46-50:
75% 3.5 Much dream dust @40S = 1.05
20% 1.5 lesser eternal essence @ 2G 50S = 75
5% 1 shard @4G 60S = 23
mat price = 2G 03S
buyout/bid price = 1G 03S

Level 51-55:
75% 1.5 Little illusion dust @1G 72S = 1.93.50
20% 1 greater eternal essence @7G 50S = 1.50
5% 1 shard @4G 60S = 23
mat price = 3G 66S
buyout/bid price = 1G 83S

Level 56-60:
75% 3.5 Much illusion dust @1G 72S = 4.51.50
20% 1.5 greater eternal essence @7G 50S = 2.25
5% 1 shard @4G 60S = 23
mat price = 7G
buyout/bid price = 3G 50S


Edited, Apr 10th 2007 7:06pm by ohmikeghod
#218 Apr 16 2007 at 11:04 PM Rating: Good
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Untill they make a working version of enchantrix again, I think you should check out the Ohmikeghods thread:

Basically its alot more work but the theory is the same:)
#219 Apr 17 2007 at 6:19 PM Rating: Decent
do the addons cost anything in real life at all???
#220 Apr 18 2007 at 4:39 AM Rating: Decent
Riokirshin wrote:
do the addons cost anything in real life at all???

Not one single red cent. They are free.

To the people who constantly complain about them being "broken": You should go to Norganna's website and volunteer your time, effort, and expertise to help make them better, instead of doing absolutely nothing but ********* If it wasn't for that great group of people who put forth their free help towards coding the addons, we wouldn't have them at all.
#221 Apr 23 2007 at 5:27 AM Rating: Decent
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ohmikeghod the Venerable, interesting way to make money. Have one question though, since the percentless is currently disable exactly how do you search through the AH?

Is there a quick way, or do you just just do a search for weapons-level ?? -- ??, uncommon, then just calculate every single item's value. With all the weapons, armor... this would be a very time consuming endevour.
#222 Apr 24 2007 at 4:40 PM Rating: Decent
Cyricore wrote:
ohmikeghod the Venerable, interesting way to make money. Have one question though, since the percentless is currently disable exactly how do you search through the AH?

Is there a quick way, or do you just just do a search for weapons-level ?? -- ??, uncommon, then just calculate every single item's value. With all the weapons, armor... this would be a very time consuming endevour.

While Enchantrix does not do percentless any more, It does allow you to display the HSP (Highest Sellable Price) in the tooltip. If you divide that by 2, you will get 50% profit same as percentless. I search the AH in groups of all items uncommon or better in several searches - 2-15, 15-30, 31-45, 46-56, and 57-63. I still make lots of gold, even with percentless and bidbroker disabled. It just takes a bit longer to sort out what to buy/bid on from what not to.
#223 Apr 27 2007 at 4:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Have to say thanks. Finally got around to spending an hour or so yesterday giving this a shot. Spent 30G and in 12 hours have made that back and have near 25G up for auction still. I wasn't as discerning as I could of been in the beginning and bought things that were near HSP/2. Some were maybe 70% or 80% of the HSP price, so I easily could of made a higher percentage of profit.

Biggest pain was going through the 10-20 range, the mats collected are generally of so little return that finding anything worthwhile was pretty few and far between. Probably did best 30-40, found the most items that were way below the cost of the DE mats.

Thanks
#224 Apr 29 2007 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
Spent 5g and made 35g off of 7 greater nether essences :D
#225 May 10 2007 at 2:18 AM Rating: Good
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Still not working, and I havent found alternative Addon for this. Guess we need to continue calculating it by hand.
#226 May 10 2007 at 10:16 AM Rating: Decent
Veliv wrote:
Still not working, and I havent found alternative Addon for this. Guess we need to continue calculating it by hand.

Hand calculation works fine. I helped two people get flying mounts, which is the only reason I'm below 2K gold at the moment. In a week or two, I'll be back up to normal.

Oh, and I finally got to L35 and 275 skill, so I can DE anything in the game now.
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