HonorValorSacrifice (HVS) Linkshell is looking for Core members
check out our website @ http://hvs-ls.bravehost.com
to learn about HVS and to apply in the forum if interested
Edited, Jul 22nd 2007 6:25pm by Breaded
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Scholar
40 posts
HVS is looking for ppl to help build up the linkshell. It's still in it's early stage with a handful of members. Were looking for dedicated ppl who are interested in joining the linkshell and staying. Things that HVS will do once its capable are : Rank missions, ZM's, CoP, HNMS, Sky, Assault, Sea, Dynamis and more
I looked at your site and i read the post and responses you received on K.I. I really didnt understand your first rule, not only did i not understand it but i wholeheartedly disagree with it, why make people change to Sandy nation? you also ask for peoples jobs over lvl 45? how is that endgame/hnmls lvl?
Scholar
40 posts
Idk where u got people lvl 45+ on the website unless theres a typo somewhere but it states in the forum for qualifications to be 70+ and maybe 60+ for right now, The changing to sandy thing is for a number of reasons, one if u are going to join and what were looking for is ppl that are going to invest in the linkshell 100% then changing nation and getting the rank back with the linkshell shouldnt be a problem. It also makes doing the ranks easier as a linkshell so we can move on since were all the same nation, it shows character about the person that thier willing to make a sacrifice for something greater. (and OP's arent that big of a sacrifice anyways) Plus it gives us an easy way to get to know each other and see where everyone stands in the way they play the game by doing rank missions since thier relatively non-difficult. Also for the KI replys....do i really need to explain how immature ppl are there in the KI forums?
Post a Thread just like i did to apply
Name:
Lv 45+ Jobs
(please state levels and where appropriate subs):
Thats from your website application. If people are interested in joining shouldnt you just be pleased about that rather than giving them those kinds of conditions? Also no not all the OPs are easy to get back so why the hell make people do all that work again? People do rank missions in social shells, they come to their endgame shell to do other stuff e.g sky, dynamis etc not to start over again.
Name:
Lv 45+ Jobs
(please state levels and where appropriate subs):
Thats from your website application. If people are interested in joining shouldnt you just be pleased about that rather than giving them those kinds of conditions? Also no not all the OPs are easy to get back so why the hell make people do all that work again? People do rank missions in social shells, they come to their endgame shell to do other stuff e.g sky, dynamis etc not to start over again.
Scholar
40 posts
ok thx for showing me that was on the application >,< and i already stated the reasons why we chose to be sandorian nation only. As for the OPs we arent going to make the members get them back on thier own. We will work as a team to take over areas so that they can get them back. (This is not hard to do with a linkshell all being of one nation). That's why i said its not that big of a sacrifice, sorry i forgot to mention we will work to get them back not just throw u on ur own.
yeah i agree that the changing nations part is pointless especially like me youre already rank 10 in all 3 nations (but im currently switchied to bastok) and have ALL OPs.... now OPs arent that important you say... well that may be true if you only had the "usual" ones cause you can always get those again but what if like me you have gustaberg, ronfaure and sarutabaruta outposts? im sure sandy or any other country will be taking all 3 of those overe again anytime soon.. would you really wanna give that up?
Scholar
40 posts
I just posted that the Linkshell will be re-taking over areas to get OPs back. And its still not pointless even if u have all nations rank 10 cuz u still will be helping other members get thier missions the point is to develop a bond with members and learn where everyone stands as a person and thier ability to play thier character. Rank missions are an easy way to do that. Instead of just saying ok were gonna start with gods, fail misearably and then have no morale for the linkshell. I'm not saying it doesnt work starting bigger with new linkshells. But we'd rather have the time to learn our members and become a community before we get into dealing with bigger things, and have the time to weed out ppl that would be bad for the linkshell.
what are the chances of a handful of sandorians taking over hustaberg and sarutabaruta? can you honestly say you could pull that off? Also being rank 10 in all nations allows you to go back and do other nations missions (and BCNMs) even if youer not currently switched to that nation... i can go back and do every sandy bcnm while im still switched to bastok rank 10 (and i know this because ive tried) because i did them once originally when i was from sand orian so if the point of switching natioms is just to help other do sandy missions. what would be teh point of switching if i can redo EVERY sandy mission while still from bastok and not have to worry about losing OPs?
Scholar
40 posts
ok....u switch nations so that u can take over areas .... and its not hard to do it there is xping there is trading items to OP npc and there is garrisson. a Linkshell can take over a city are no problem as long as there isnt another ls from a diff nation trying to do the same. Also, a linkshell who doesnt have everyone of the same nation...then that would be a handful of people trying to take over a area...but were talkign about a whole linkshell going in and doing what i mentioned above...it is perfectly duoable.
As to why if u have rank 10 all 3 u still have to be sandy? the point in that is ...well how are u supposed to contribute to helping take over Ops when u are a different nation? Not everyone has city OPs and if you are a different nation you woudlnt be able to contribute to helping them... This linkshell is about beign a team and working together. Being of the same nation makes the linkshell capable of being a greater team.
Edited, Jul 25th 2007 4:34pm by Breaded
As to why if u have rank 10 all 3 u still have to be sandy? the point in that is ...well how are u supposed to contribute to helping take over Ops when u are a different nation? Not everyone has city OPs and if you are a different nation you woudlnt be able to contribute to helping them... This linkshell is about beign a team and working together. Being of the same nation makes the linkshell capable of being a greater team.
Edited, Jul 25th 2007 4:34pm by Breaded
no you wouldnt be able to help take over OPs while bein in a different nation but you can still help those other from a different tnation achieve rank 10 at least also theres ALWAYS gonna be newbie and people lvlin new jobs in city areas taking those over would take a HUGE amount of effort and number.. how long woul you say it would take for you/youre ls to be capable of zccomplishing that? I mean if it was as easy as you make it sound id think every ls would have done it at least once cause im sure theres still people that dont have starting ALL starting city OPs
thats about gay. who would i wanna start over in rank and lose my op's. just to do rank missions and garrison to get that crap back. i dont even see how this all ties in with a endgame/hnmls. and how is switching nations testing ur loyalty to the ls. who is to say that i just dont join get my gear then leave. u cant judge someones loyalty by that. them being at all events and when needed is how u do that. sorry to say but i bet ur ls fails.
Well good luck getting enough members to take over an area to change the conquest. Thats not how you show loyalty to an ls btw, treating people with respect and not demanding they do stupid things like change nation will get you better results.
Scholar
40 posts
idk i already said that switching to sandy only has many purposes i suppose they werent read so i'll restate them..
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The changing to sandy thing is for a number of reasons, one if u are going to join and what were looking for is ppl that are going to invest in the linkshell 100% then changing nation and getting the rank back with the linkshell shouldnt be a problem. It also makes doing the ranks easier as a linkshell so we can move on since were all the same nation, it shows character about the person that thier willing to make a sacrifice for something greater. (and OP's arent that big of a sacrifice anyways) Plus it gives us an easy way to get to know each other and see where everyone stands in the way they play the game by doing rank missions since thier relatively non-difficult.
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helping other members get thier missions the point is to develop a bond with members and learn where everyone stands as a person and thier ability to play thier character. Rank missions are an easy way to do that. Instead of just saying ok were gonna start with gods, fail misearably and then have no morale for the linkshell. I'm not saying it doesnt work starting bigger with new linkshells. But we'd rather have the time to learn our members and become a community before we get into dealing with bigger things, and have the time to weed out ppl that would be bad for the linkshell.
You arent getting anyone elses point though NO ONEwants to do rank/missions again. Why throw away all that hard work just to prove your loyalty or that you know how to play your job? Seriously your ls will fail because theres alot of endgame shells out there and none are giving stupid requirements like yours.
Edited, Jul 25th 2007 6:51pm by Icegem
Edited, Jul 25th 2007 6:51pm by Icegem
yeah and like i certain other poster said what does doin rank missions and taking over OP areas/garrison have to do with endgame... i know plenty of people in endgame lses that arent even rank 7 SO IF YOURE GONNA require PEOPLE TO CHNAGE TO SANDY AT LEAST GIVE THEM A REASON/INCENTIVE AND TELL THEM WHAT DOING SO HAS TO DO WITH BEING IN AN ENDGAME ls and how doing so would make your ls function better/differently than all the other endgame lses that dont have such a (from my point of view) absurd and pointless requirement.
Oh and ignore the caps that was an accident just dodnt feel liek going back and retyping it lol
Oh and ignore the caps that was an accident just dodnt feel liek going back and retyping it lol
Scholar
40 posts
Actually i am getting posts point, and I do see. It was the leaders idea to have sandy only and i see some very good points about it not being reasonable I will talk with him about it tonight. Starting off with rank missions seemd like a good way to get to know linkshell members well instead of jumping into other more difficult things but It is a pretty rediculous to give up the work u already put into rank missions this will be adjusted soon.
Btw thx for the input on it. I appreciate the constructive criticism unlike KI forum -.-
Edited, Jul 25th 2007 6:29pm by Breaded
Btw thx for the input on it. I appreciate the constructive criticism unlike KI forum -.-
Edited, Jul 25th 2007 6:29pm by Breaded
well as for getting to know people without jumping into difficult thing i would suggest ZM runs and maybe a few Genbu pop item farming runs and genbu fights.. those are pretty small scale thinsg to start off with (when you have enough people to do them)
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I think that's a pretty nifty idea to have all the people in the shell from the same nation.
The rank missions are pretty easy. I'm not sure if San d'Oria has any of the dumb JP midnight waits, but they shouldn't take too long to do.
It'd be cool to take over all the regions for outposts.
And you could do expeditionary forces together. I've never done that before and have always wanted to but there are never many Windurst people around.
If you don't like the idea, just don't join the linkshell. It's not really that difficult to figure this out.
Scholar
40 posts
I had the same philosophy but i think taking over areas would take too much time away from other activities so we decided to remove the sandorian requirement its now all nations acceptable
Applied on this ls
Might give it a try.
Just like i did with DogmassOfEmpiricism when it started up.
Edited, Jul 27th 2007 11:30pm by StormIvan
Might give it a try.
Just like i did with DogmassOfEmpiricism when it started up.
Edited, Jul 27th 2007 11:30pm by StormIvan
well i dunno what went on with his/her app but i can agree with teh last thing he/she said.. when youer startin an ls you NEED members you should take anyone you could get (acceptions being those with bad reps that you know would bring harm to your ls) but other than that if youre startin an endgame ls while youer numbers are low you should take anyone at endgame lvl that applies.. only starting the lvl.job restrictions when you already have enough people to do thinks wih then you dont wanna get the ls too full too fast.
Scholar
40 posts
Lol...your gonna rag on me and say im wrong for calling you lazy when u wont lvl blm from 32-37? If thats not lazy i dont know what is. And alot of rules? yeah the only rules we have right now really is being a good person...idk what rules ur talking about. And dude u straight up told me starting off if i didnt like your sub i can kiss ur *** . Tell the whole story.
to respond to this...um what was different? i told u that it was decided as a group not to let u in cuz u were thought as lazy. I said personally that I didnt judge by it, but after thinking it over it does seem pretty lazy not to lvl just cuz of the time and gil it would take.... so nothing new was said in the forum it was said u were declined cuz ur reason to refuse to lvl sub seemd lazy , nothing different than what i told u in chat.
oh another thing this is directly quoted from the hvs standards
telling me ur famous for ur gimp sub and saying i can kiss ur *** if i dont like it doesnt follow this standard so theres another reason why u were declined
Edited, Jul 28th 2007 12:56pm by Breaded
Edited, Jul 28th 2007 1:28pm by Breaded
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tell them in chat different stuff than what you write on forum. (like i couldnt see the message when you kicked me from forum >.> )
to respond to this...um what was different? i told u that it was decided as a group not to let u in cuz u were thought as lazy. I said personally that I didnt judge by it, but after thinking it over it does seem pretty lazy not to lvl just cuz of the time and gil it would take.... so nothing new was said in the forum it was said u were declined cuz ur reason to refuse to lvl sub seemd lazy , nothing different than what i told u in chat.
oh another thing this is directly quoted from the hvs standards
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we want players who will leave their pride and greed at the door and only bring their heart and loyalty.
telling me ur famous for ur gimp sub and saying i can kiss ur *** if i dont like it doesnt follow this standard so theres another reason why u were declined
Edited, Jul 28th 2007 12:56pm by Breaded
Edited, Jul 28th 2007 1:28pm by Breaded
Im sorry Storm but i lolled my **** off! Omg you did the right thing not letting Stormivan join your ls he is the biggest ls hopper i have ever met. He also doesnt bother attending events and sets himself to away when he should be at sky!
Nieko you owe me /humps but i suppose you cant send those across servers lol!
Nieko you owe me /humps but i suppose you cant send those across servers lol!
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